Cal @ Stanfurd 1.17.09 Open Thread
by ragnarok on Jan 17, 2009 4:20 PM PST
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PrintYour No. 23 California Golden Bears travel down the peninsula to take on Stanford today at 5PM. Oh, and a really minor sidenote -- hardly worth mentioning -- it will be Mike Montgomery's return to The Farm after 18 years as the Cadinal's head coach. I doubt that will be a factor, though...
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Oh, and in case you hadn't heard, earlier today, No. 15 Arizona State beat No. 7 UCLA, 61-58 in overtime at Pauley Paviion, leaving Cal as the last team still undefeated in conference play. UCLA may still win the conference this year, but this defeat signals that they're unlikely to run away with it again this year.
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That’s the second time I’ve done that in the last 24 hours!
Go Bears!
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jan 17, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions
It'll be on
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
No, a recurring rape fantasy.
Ba-da-bing!
But seriously rape is no joke.
by Face in Brock's Armpits on Jan 17, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think he’ll fit right in
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Cal winning this game would send a big message to the Pac-10
Beating your rivals on the road is legit…undefeated more than 25% through the conference schedule…undefeated on the road in 3 games…
Time to show the Furd that Maples is bear territory!
WITCH'S TIT
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
BOOOMSHAKALAKA!
Tedford...if you're reading this...I'LL WORK FOR FREE! I'll fill out your Coach's Poll!
OMG!! Montgomery used to coach at Stanfurd?
No, I’m not The Maharg but thanks for thinking of me so highly.
I'm going to make a wild guess
and assume that contested long two point shots will not continue to keep falling for Stanford.
Please?
BECAUSE HE'S A STRAIGHT SAVAGE
RANDLE HAS EARNED THE ANNUAL THOROUGHBRED “SHOOT IT WHENEVER AND WHEREVER YOU WANT” PASS
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
We are getting bunch of good looks
Stanford is bound to miss more of those of jumpers.
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 17, 2009 5:21 PM PST reply actions
Jordan Wilkes
Where have you been all season? Great playing so far. Sorry – that second foul call on you was total B.S.
Yeah No Shit
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
Bears settling for tough shots right now
i want more nifty passing…
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Trust me
He always is
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
He's really rebounded from his surgery
I like what I see in our guys. They’ll have valuable minutes under their belts when our 5 SR starters are done after next year.
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Should have passed to Kamp on the pick and roll
settling for long 3’s isn’t how they got the percentage so high
y'know, i know the bears are good from 3
but with the way things are going, i might not bother with the outside shot right now, at least for a little while
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Randle needs to stop launching those godly threes on the road...
seems like he only makes them at home.
HomeRim Advantage
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Leon, you just decided what I am going to eat for dinner.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
IB Hoagies?
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They can't shoot like this forever
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Really good D by Furd
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty warm
scattered boos
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Applause.
Either that or seeing our enemies driven before us and hearing the lamentations of their women.
I don't think stanford fans to anything with intensity.
If they booed, it would probably be something along the lines of “I do believe your career decisions have caused some consternation for me!”
Just wanted to check in at halftime. Frustrating end to the half, but otherwise it has gone well. Crisp passing by Cal. No bad fouls (or fouls to speak of, really).
Also, Im emboldened by the lack of 3 point shooting in this offense. Many people, myself included, was concerned that if Cal couldn’t hit the 3s, they couldn’t compete. And when we were shooting like 1,000% on 3, it was an unsustainable number. I don’t believe Cal has hit a single 3 in this game. Maybe 1. Yet, with solid inside passing, taking advantage of a weak Stanford inside game, we’re right in it.
It gives me hope that even if our 3 point shooting tanks (as statistically it must), this team can still compete.
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from PRD's stream thread
why would you ever buy ads for ITT Tech during the cal-stanford game?
…hahaha
FAIL
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
some halftime stats
bears are 16-29 shooting. 7 players have scored, 7 players have assists (12 assists for 16 field goals), 8 players have rebounds.
boykin leads the bears with 12 points. no one else has more than 4.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Great Game
Both teams playing at a really high level! I’m impressed with Cal – they have a bunch of interchangeable parts and Monty has it working for them.
Wilkes, Kamp and Amoke have 2 fouls each. Nothing concerning whatsoever. No one else has a foul for the Bears.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
They all play the same spot when in though
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Toughness
We’ve proven that we can fight till the end and win a close game…Stanfurd has failed when they’ve attempted to do that.
Also, I think we’re a better second half team than they are. We’ve been pretty close at halftime in all of our pac-10 games, and we end up pulling it out at the end. If we continue to play this way, I don’t think we’ll lose.
Defensively
need to find an answer to Hill and Fields – 24 of Stanford’s 35 points and high percentages from both.
Very surprising
considering our two best defenders are Christopher and Robertson. If we step our D in the second half, we will win. If not, we will probably lose.
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No one’s going to be terrible against Oregon State
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Taking what they're giving
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
If Boykin were on the football team
he would already be wearing the hard hat
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
Randle can still win this game for us
He needs to take over the last 10 minutes.
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anyone can still win this game for us
i don’t recall ever seeing a close basketball game
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
They settle for alot of jumpers though
I don’t think anybody will run away with this game…unless we keep fouling and they shoot a ton of free throws
omar wilkes was a student of mine at cal (i was a ugsi). nice guy.
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
jeebus stanford is shooting lights out
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
wouldn't go that far
Mitch Johnson has 4 points. 2 were on a gift jumper that bounced off the iron, straight up, and back down.
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It's hard when you dribble it off the other dude's foot
unlucky bounce
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
There seems to be a lot of “unlucky bounces” with Jerome. I’m not saying the negatives outweigh the positives, but damn those negatives are infuriating.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
No PG is perfect
Did you see Darren Collison miss 90000 shots today?
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Unlucky bounces off of someone's foot does not equal poor decision
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are really too hard on him... how many greay assists has he had this game?
What’s our record?
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
As I said, he provides a lot of positives. But if there is one thing that really grates on me it is sloppy ballhandling and turnovers.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
You make it seem like he does it every possession though
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
It happens more than acceptable for someone who is supposed to be a top point guard. If the expectations have been raised, then I guess who cares.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
The problem is he's a scoring guard too
If he were just assisting teammates, he would not turn it over as much…
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Not saying I want him to get shot. He's just not playing...
too well this game. He’s set higher expectations this year with his greatly improved play
...pick SIX!
um that superman pose was pretty stupid
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
Everybody keep things in perspective
10 days ago we would have totally taken 2 of 3 from this road trip. And now we can go home to play the 2 worst teams in the Pac-10
Oh well. This is getting out of hand. Down 10 with 1:45 left. cal playing really sloppy at the end. This score is not indicative of how close the game has relaly been. I think we’ll win up in Berkeley. If end up losing, which seems evident, itll be frusrating. But hey theres a 3. DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES????
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4 point game
Can we pull another U-dub?
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
Am I the only one who thinks that the fans are saying Go Bears?
No, I’m not The Maharg but thanks for thinking of me so highly.
I think they are.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
One of my favorite things about away games is hijacking cheers.
by Yes We Cannon on Jan 17, 2009 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
refs have a quick whistle for the entire 2nd half
Jerome starts wacking ugly and no call for 5 seconds
He had to have been and that’s exactly what Monty is saying. Referees however have no place for logic.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
This last minute is taking forever.
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no FTs in the 1st half
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
announcers don't seriously think it's a cramp, do they?
cramps don’t suddenly pop up when you land on your ankle hard idiots
well, like I said above
4-1 in the Pac-10 with crappy teams coming to Haas. If only the loss had been to anybody OTHER than the furd!
my quick recap
Boykin was great, but not enough. Stanford got a whole lot of lucky breaks, and shot the ball very well. Winning on the road is hard.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
But Randle did… um… he did… not…. play well. W…T…F… ? I think this game would’ve been a blowout if JR and PC showed up. Where were they?
Getting hounded...
That’s why Boykin got so much on the inside
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
Nate Longshore could walk with an injured anke too . . .
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Exactly what I was thinking
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Very efficient performance by the Furd
First team all season to attack our weakness continuously—go inside over and over and over using pick and rolls and the backdoor cuts. If you keep on getting easier shots (layups and wide open jumpers) you’re probably going to win.
We’ll probably beat the Oregon schools and lose to the LA schools. Would 6-3 be satisfying after the 4-0 start?
Dude. UCLA sucks.
If Randle isn’t injured, I think USC poses more problems
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Don't say that!
you’ll give Bruins Nation ‘bulletin board material!’ All of their posters will get pumped up have the focus and intensity to power their blog to victory!
UCLA’s defense is too solid to allow Cal to rip it from 3.
by BearsNecessity on Jan 17, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
we had a fine offensive performance today without the 3… Furd just played the game of their season. They would have beat any Pac-10 team if they shot like they did tonight
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
I’m still trying to wrap my head around why UCLA ‘sucks’.
by BearsNecessity on Jan 17, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
Because at times they have a hard time scoring.
Howland is so serious about not making mistakes that kids get tentative and don’t let the stroke float freely. That’s what went wrong today.
I'm guessing you haven't watched them play against any of the good teams they've faced
They have no inside presence on offense. And they have horrible shooting droughts… leading to no FGs in 8 mins and a loss against ASU at home
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
And they still only lost by 3
They look like Cal except they play D. So they should have the upper hand in Pauley.
by BearsNecessity on Jan 17, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
We have much better shooters than they do
You’ll see… remember last year at Pauley? We won that game; the refs just didn’t think so.
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Hoping for one upset in LA for 7-2. That would be awesome.
Interesting point about Stanford’s game plan. It would be interesting if Dawkins and Monty stick around for a while. It could be quite a coaching rivalry.
We need to watch out for an upset by one of the Oregon schools.
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
If Cal is healthy there is absolutely no reason they should lose to either team at home.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
I think Jerome hurt his ankle
and will take a few weeks to recover
Probably a bad sprain
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
He'll play through it
but won’t be 100% in other words
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the off the ball defense was better?
They seemed to give Randle the middle and close out everywhere else.
by BearsNecessity on Jan 17, 2009 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
We were a bit too tight at the end of this game (being a rivalry game) compared to the Washington game to pull off a miracle again. We missed some easy buckets and then Stanford got some friendly bounces to fire up themselves and the crowd. Would have been sweet to win one at Maples.
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 17, 2009 7:06 PM PST reply actions
5 returning seniors next year...
I like our chances next year.
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
All three
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions
I did notice
Randle regressing and driving a lot. Was Furd playing against the motion offense and giving Randle those drives? We weren’t moving the ball much.
They adjusted well at halftime
Our passing was incredible in the 1st half
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed regarding Randle.
Randle was impressed with himself at the beginning of the season, and now expects himself to be a star. He was very must frustrated in WA and WSU and was slow to get going tonight. So at the end, he was pushing it unnecessarily. This resulted in some forced shots (some of which he made!) and several ill-advised turnovers.
Monty needs to take Randle aside and tell him that just doing GOOD plays are good enough for the team. He doesn’t need to be getting national mention for incredible plays in order for the Bears to achieve their goals. Jerome. You’re a good player and a big asset to the team. Accept that. Now, chill out and refocus on your decision making. Get other guys involved. Play strategically.
This was the battle that Braun always fought with Jerome. Growth doesn’t always happen in a straight line. 2 steps forward, 1 step back.
He was doing an excellent job in the first half… I remember several excellent assists. I think he was just frustrated in the second half
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Summary of game
Post play. Boykin was great. Our interior passing was great. But we don’t have size to:
1) Dump the ball down to the post and draw a double team advantage.
2) Draw fouls on their bigs.
3) Defend interior baskets. How many times did Lawrence Hill score down low at the end. He’s good, but not a premier interior player.
Gee, didn’t mean to, but those were 3 D’s. What does that tell you?
Randle make regrettable turnovers late, and his attitude turned sour at the end. I hope he didn’t get injured badly.
Stanford played great. Scored rapidly with Cal in the first half. Continued to find various scoring in the 2nd, and locked down on our O. We grew weary in the last 5 minutes. There appeared to be a psychological fatigue factor at the end. The refs, the crowd, their effort. We couldn’t overcome and find away to overcome tonight.
Someone said here, maybe the reason we looked so good in the first half, with all those assists, is because they were defending us on the perimeter and the spacing on the floor was spread. Somehow, that changed toward the end. Johnny Dawkins got us tonight.
by concordtom on Jan 17, 2009 7:31 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Exactly what happened
Rec’d
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
Foul trouble for Kamp
really hurt interior D
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by Thoroughbred on Jan 17, 2009 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
USC - Arizona
Hey, at least we didn’t lose like Arizona just lost! AZ had a 4 pt lead with about 3 min to go. Chase Budinger drove the lane for an apparent dunk. But, no. A foul was called on Nic Wise beforehand. Now get this – how it happened.
Wise had fallen down way off to the side. USC’s Dwight Lewis was defending him, and stepped over Wise so that he stood over him like a boxer over a fallen man. Lewis’ legs were straddling Wise’s body at about the waste, making it near impossible for Wise to stand up.
Wouldn’t you be like, “yo, dude – get the F off me”…?
Wise went to stand up, straight up. Lewis didn’t move and thus one of Lewis’ legs got tangled on the shoulder of Wise. Lewis acted like he was being assaulted and then fell over.
The ref called an intentional foul on Wise. The Budinger dunk didn’t count. USC went down and made 2 free throws and then took the ball out of bounds. They made the shot. Now the score was tied.
Total rip for Zona. The game went down to the final 1.3 seconds when Zona made a stupid foul on SC and then made the first, intentionally missed the second so that Zona only had a full court bomb attempt. The game was REALLY close. But those 4 points the ref’s gave USC on a stupid ass call made the difference!
At least the Cal Bears got beat because of tangible reasons we can understand. I hate losing basketball games b/c of the refs, and it happens a lot. It’s a fast paced game and difficult to referee properly.
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