Previewing the Season : Defense
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TwistNHook: Am I the only person excited to see what the new 3-4 Defense can do this season?
HydroTech: I think you're the only person.
TwistNHook: Unique as always.
HydroTech: You're not unique. You're a weirdo.
TwistNHook: If your mission when you woke up this morning was to make me cry, then congratulations. Mission accomplished.

ragnarok: Okay, as for defense, CBKWit currently has major concerns at the NT position. I have to admit, I do too, but I guess I'm just too excited about having 4 great linebackers on the field to worry much about the NT. I imagine the LBs must really like the 3-4 because they get to rush the QB more often.
I guess we should go over who is at the LB position. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it goes something like this: Follett at WLB; Felder at WILB; Williams at SILB; and Young at SLB. Yah?
Yellow Fever: The only one I am unsure about is Young. But I think he is there. This is clearly the strength of the D. Although, with 3 seniors out there, Tedford is looking to get experience for other, younger LBs, such as Kendricks. So, we could see a few unexpected stars blossom out there this year.
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CBKWit: I'm not really worried about Young. Whenever he's on the field, he seems to make plays (Int in Holiday bowl '06 comes to mind), and I like the depth we have behind him. I think little brother Bishop, Mike Mohammed, DJ Holt, Charles Johnson, and true frosh Mychal Kendricks, who has been terrific during fall practices, will all see the field this year. That's a lot of good linebackers.
I am more definitely concerned about nose tackle. Hill is a great talent but inexperienced; Kane is experienced but is no Mebane or Lo Alexander, and both of them missed a lot of fall camp. I'm worried about getting gashed up the middle on running plays and having our DEs double teamed on passing plays.
HydroTech: I'm excited about Mohammed. He looked great last year in limited playing time. Btw, was he not at fan appreciation day?
TwistNHook: I didn't see his blue eyes and mop of blond hair there at all. Didn't
somebody say how on a video game, he was dark skinned? That's hilarious.
He must be stopped at airports all the time.
CBKWit: By all accounts, Rulon and Alualu had great camps, and their back ups, Cameron Jordan and Ernest Owusu, were magnificent in the spring. I think this group will put a lot of pressure on opposing QBs this season, which would be a welcome change from the last 3 years.
The Nose Tackle position is what concerns me. These guys didn't stand out as much as the DEs in the spring, and Hill and Kane were banged up for much of the fall. I am worried about Ringer getting 6 yards a pop right up the middle.
TwistNHook: Now, somebody must explain to me what the LBs responsibilities are in a 3-4 if the NT is failing on containment. Such things are beyond me.
Yellow Fever: To go and chase down the quarterback?
TwistNHook: Fair enough. I meant more on failing to contain the RB. Will there be
LBs sitting there waiting or are they off prancing and mincing about?
Yellow Fever: Does Follett seem like the prancing type to you?
TwistNHook: Good call. More of a mincer.
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HydroTech: If the NT cannot soak up 2 OL blockers in the 3-4 scheme, we're basically going to have OL-men getting to our LBs. That is not what we want. We want the LBs making tackles not shedding the blocks of the OL. So basically, between the 3 down linemen in our 3-4, we should hope that they occupy 4 OL blockers (5 is even better but might be a bit too much). Remember, we want our LBs making those tackles close to the LOS not our safeties making tackles in the secondary.
CBKWit: That is my primary concern, that our NTs won't occupy two blockers against MSU. Then we'll have at least 2 Offensive Linemen blocking our ILBs (Williams and Felder) who should be making tackles. This is my biggest concern for the MSU game - if we can handle Ringer up the middle, we should win.
TwistNHook: Is Hagan starting this game? It's Syd, Hicks, Ezeff, and Hagan, right? I feel like our DBs are in a great position. I know that Syd had a rough start to his Cal career. But that trial by fire only made him better. He has played with some great players, like Hughes.
And we know what Ezeff can do. He was just hitting his stride (not to mention Oregon players) when he got injured last year. If he can stay healthy and Hicks can take over for DeCoud, I think we are set back there.
As for Hagan, I don't know too much about him. But he comes with a lot of hype, so hopefully now will be his time to turn that hype into production. Yes, there are concerns up front, but hopefully the improved performance at the LB and DB level will help mask some concerns with the DLine.
CBKWit: Hagan is starting at the other corner spot, and I think it's a good sign that he beat out Conte. Conte is clearly a smart player and hard worker (cornerback has one of the steepest learning curves and is one of the most difficult positions to play as a true freshman), so Hagan must have really gotten his act together this fall. He definitely came in with a lot of hype and now he has a chance to live up to it.
ragnarok: I'm excited to see what Hagan can do. The other cornerback slot opposite Syd'Quan was rather suspect last year; Conte showed some promise, but made plenty of, well, freshman mistakes. I'd have to think that either Hagan or a more experienced Conte would be an improvement for our secondary.
TwistNHook: Just this morning, I saw that Okanes said Hicks might lose some reps to Brett Johnson.
Another notable development on defense: Brett Johnson took the first team reps Thursday at free safety instead of Bernard Hicks. Defensive coordinator Bob Gregory said no decision has been made who will start, but added that he expects both players to get about the same reps in the game. Still, it’s a significant bit of news because Hicks seemed to be a lock to play free safety through the spring and much
That is news to me. I always thought very highly of Bernard Hicks. I have to wonder what the thought process is here. Maybe Johnson is playing at an exceptional level and is forcing the conversation. I hope it's not a negative on Hicks.
ragnarok: I don't sense a lot of consternation among either sportswriters or fans about replacing our team's leading tackler, Thomas DeCoud. I mean, 116 tackles is a lot of production -- 4th in the Pac-10 last year. Now, I now Hydro has gone on record as saying that having your free safety be your team's leading tackler is a bad thing, but even if our linebackers step it up in our new 3-4 defensive alignment, you still worry about a dropoff whenever a guy like this graduates to the NFL.
TwistNHook: We just hope that this year's Defense doesn't put its safeties in a position to make 116 tackles. DeCoud was a beast out there (and he and his father were hilarious at FanFest last year). But hopefully, we won't necessarily need a player quite like DeCoud out there this year. Best of luck to him in the NFL!
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I’m excited to watch our new defense take on traditional offenses – Michigan State- and spread offenses – Arizona and Oregon.
by Rishi on
Aug 29, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
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3-4 Defense
CBKWit: You touched on one of my concerns going into the game as well, which is State’s o-lineman getting downfield and smothering up our linebackers. State has a lot of beef inside, both guards and their center are BIG. Especially against a new NT that can be dangerous if they can get an effective chip block before moving upfield to cut off backside pursuit, thereby opening up cut back lanes for Ringer.
The saving grace of this is that the bigger the lineman you send downfield, the slower and generally less agile they are. An effective linebacker, which our four are, will be able to scrape over the top or run underneath that sort of blocker. With Ringer I predict it will be more of the former than the later due to his speed, but I don’t predict the sort of mamouth holes you can generate sealing off pursuit with our backers speed and size.
The 3-4 is effective when you have a size mismatch on the line due to its reliance on speed rather than brute force.
by CalFanNY on
Aug 29, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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Shedding the blockers will be the key
If you have a NT that can take up 2 blockers, than 1 of your ILBs will likely be free to make a play. If both ILBs are occupied, it’s going to be tough to make a play on Ringer without a lot of help. He’s very quick, and a just a little hesitation due to a lineman’s block is going mean a lot of yards.
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by CBKWit on
Aug 29, 2008 12:15 PM PDT
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Don't get me wrong, I thought the Follett play pictured here was incredible...
But how was that not called ‘spearing’? I don’t claim to be a rules expert but know some on this board are.
Doesn’t really matter, I guess.
Go Sox!
by luzinski on
Aug 29, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
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Follett had a head of steam coming into the tackle, hits him and Ainge snaps back. If he speared him, then Follett’s back and helmet would be lower to the ground but he’s straight up with his arms reaching around.
Good tackle and I’m an Ainge fan.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 29, 2008 11:59 AM PDT
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head down + (arms at side AND/OR leaving feet) + intent = spearing
It’s my understanding spearing can be called on almost every tackle just as long as the head is down… but like so many other rules… it depends on what the ref’s are willing to call ‘spearing.’
It’s my understanding that spearing can be identified first by the arms… if you are using your body like a missile with your arms on your side, and your head is down….then they throw the flag.
The other thing, when added to the above, triggers the flag is when you leave your feet… I don’t think this is really part of the rules, but when a player leaves his feet, flies through the air with his arms at his side, head down… (basically looking like a flying spear), then that’s spearing.
Malicious intent, of course, seals the deal. This is my understanding… the intent is the most important part, but like most things, isn’t really in the rules, so it’s subjective.
The fact that you tackle with your head is down means nothing… otherwise spearing would be called about 3-4 times on each series.
IMHO… head down + (arms at side AND/OR leaving feet) + intent = spearing. This is why spearing is call so rarely.
by danzig on
Aug 29, 2008 12:10 PM PDT
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The Rulebook Definition of Spearing
Spearing is the use of the helmet (including the face mask) in an attempt to punish an opponent.
So, it’s a referee’s judgment call as to whether the player was trying to tackle an opponent or just hurt them, but I would think it’d have to be pretty obvious to call it, and I don’t believe that this instance was.
As Olsonist noted, Ainge snaps back due to the tackle, making that photo look worse than it was.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Aug 29, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
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Thanks, everyone.
I had always felt like we got away with one. Now I know I can relieve my guilty conscious and start the season fresh.
Go Sox!
by luzinski on
Aug 29, 2008 3:10 PM PDT
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Have you really been holding that up inside the entire time?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 29, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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I imagine the LBs must really like the 3-4 because they get to rush the QB more often.
MS won’t be passing that much tomorrow night. They’ll be running Javon Ringer just about every play. They’re a throwback running team with an NFL Draft Pick at tailback. But when Hoyer does drop back (209 ypg), he’ll have some guessing to do.
I think Riley, Best and Company will just shred their defense. Tedford has a well balanced game with a good back and a mobile good qb and big receivers. It should be a good tuneup for the O.
But how our 3-4 handles their premier running back remains to be seen. At 202, he’s not going to run over anyone. The quickness of the extra LB might work well. Since Ringer will be carrying the bulk of their offense, if he gets shut down, MS gets shut down.
Subplot: how is Ringer as a blocker in max protect? I suppose they’ll be setting up screens for him.
Michigan State hasn’t won a season-opening game away from home since 1984.
Cal by 14 with Riley performing well and the the D picking Hoyer at least once. Ringer will get his yards but it won’t be nearly enough.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 29, 2008 11:55 AM PDT
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Their running game is the key
if we can stop/slow down Rigner, we should win. If not, it’s going to be very tough.
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by CBKWit on
Aug 29, 2008 12:17 PM PDT
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Michigan State hasn’t won a season-opening game away from home since 1984.
How many games does that encompass? (Honest question, not trying to be antagonistic.) I don’t know that much about Michigan State’s history, but don’t Big Ten teams generally open the season at home against a MAC squad?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Aug 29, 2008 12:21 PM PDT
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As a first guess, I’m going with half or twelve games. But it was eight.
Rutgers 2004
Colorado State 1998
Nebrask 1995
Kansas 1994
Central Michgan 1991
Syracuse was a tie in 1990
Rutgers 1988
Arizona State 1986
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 29, 2008 12:46 PM PDT
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I think our D will struggle initially then find its footing and come on strong in the second half. Any new system will have some initial ‘hiccups,’ but I think we have had enough time with the system in the off-season and very sound players, so they’ll compensate and learn from their first-half mistakes (not to mention opening game jitters for the newbies). But I expect us to go into half time down or tied. But final score: 38-24, Cal.
by SonofCalifornia on
Aug 29, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
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Working from home today, just saw that 3 of the 4 panelists on College Football Now picked MSU over Cal. It seemed to boil down to Cal having too many unknowns. I can see their viewpoint, but I can’t wait to prove them wrong tomorrow!
by SonofCalifornia on
Aug 29, 2008 2:21 PM PDT
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Unknowns equals Passive Aggressive Eastern Bias
I’m happy they think MSU can win. We have one problem to solve. They have about five.
but I can’t wait to prove them wrong tomorrow!
Definitely.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 29, 2008 3:58 PM PDT
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to be fair, I have a passive aggressive West Coast Bias.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Aug 29, 2008 4:47 PM PDT
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And I have a raging clue right about now.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 29, 2008 6:20 PM PDT
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Just for kicks, ours is half – 12 games, 5-7. Losing two years in a row to San Diego State to start the season? Aggg. Thank God for Tedford.
2006 Tenn – L
2004 Air Force – W
2003 Kansas State – L
1997 Houston – W
1996 San Jose State – W
1995 San Diego State – L
1994 San Diego State – L
1993 UCLA – W
1990 Wisconsin – W
1989 Oregon – L
1986 Boston College – L
1984 Arizona – L
by tmoran3020 on
Aug 29, 2008 12:55 PM PDT
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We shouldn’t count anything in the pre-Tedford era. Of course, that makes us 1-2. So, maybe these stats are meaningless.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 29, 2008 6:21 PM PDT
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I’ll have you know that I had to kill three goats before I took that photo. And two of them were armed.
by jsnell on
Aug 29, 2008 8:51 PM PDT
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DeCoud
Thomas DeCoud is already second-string safety with the Falcons. I think he might end up being the best of the 2007 Cal draft class.
by Davis Bear on
Aug 30, 2008 10:36 AM PDT
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