YouTube Thursday: Neither Madness Nor Watercube, This Is, Apparently, Sparta
Well, here we are folks. The last YTT before the start of the season. We thought we'd take a look at our upcoming opponent, the Michigan State Spartans. They are very similar to Cal in many ways, sort of the secondary team in the rivalry. As Stanford gets much attention for historic success, so does Michigan. And as we find ourselves consistently fearing failure, perhaps also so do MSUites. I don't know, I've never met one. I'm sure they exist, somewhere. Maybe.
But don't worry, Spartans, lest you think we are going to be mocking you and insulting your poor dental hygiene, let's make a peace offering in this form:
First, let's look at a few videos of Javon Ringer, their stud RB.
Here are some videos of their coach Mark Dantonio (not to be confused with Mike D'Antonio of Killswitch):
Some general videos:
Here are some videos of Brian Hoyer, their QB:
This is a hype video for MSU set to what sounds like a Carmina Burana knock off:
As a member of the modern youth, I am jaded, crave irony, and am emotionally empty. Those sort of cheesy craftworks designed to tug at our heartstrings don't seem to work on us, instead leading to mockery and ridicule. One of the few things that help me emote, however, is music. Some songs create emotion, not because in a vaccuum they are powerful, but because of their repitition. Take Fight For California, for instance. Or whatever they call that fucking USC song. Those songs create emotions of pride or disgust, because of overuse. If I hadn't heard Fight infinity times over 4 years, it would be little more than some sort of Sousa sounding march.
However, there are some songs so perfectly constructed that, in a vaccuum, they create, control, and dispose of emotion. A cover of the Beatles' classic "Hey Jude" by instrumentalist Yusef Lateef (off of the album "The Gentle Giant") is one such song. A work of staggering genius, it undulates like a tribal spinning top. Growing in both speed and dynamics, it crescendos to a powerful climax that as much gives as it takes away.
Ultimately, you don't want to listen to music as much as you want to experience it. I had this album for yeras and had listened to the song innumerable times, commenting merely on its odd introduction and confusing ending. For some reason, it popped up on my iPod the other and grabbed me. I cannot stop listening to it, it moves me in a way that few songs ever have. I, of course, wanted to share it with you guys.
Really, as was to be expected, it's not on YouTube. *sigh* You can listen to the first 30 seconds at the link above, but it offers little into the energetic explosion of repetitive rhythm that awaits. So, instead, here is Yusef Lateef's version of "Love Song From Sparticus" on some sort of flute or perhaps oboe. It is as far away from "Hey Jude" as you can be and still listen to Yusef Lateef. But it is what I have to work with. Enjoy.
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These are not danzig quality videos
Ringer: doesn’t seem to have any particular jukes or moves, but good balance and speed around the corner.
Dantonio: seems like a bitter man.
Hoyer: seems pretty good, maybe more mobile than Hydro gave him credit for.
Overall, I haven’t wet my frock yet. Then again we have so many ? who know how this one will turn out.
by OskiMonsta on Aug 28, 2008 8:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wet my frock like 3 months ago.
I really should change frocks.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahhaaa, what's a guy gotta do?
These are not danzig quality videos
OskiMonsta, I assure you that Twist is embedding these videos at the highest quality that youtube allows… once you are playing a vid, click on it again while its playing and it should take you to the youtube page… watch it in standard quality and see how much worse it is in comparison.
Twist, as for the Lateff track… do I have to do every frickn thing for you?
Hey Jude by Yusef Lateff
Anyway, Jungle Plum is his best track… and I’m not even a fan of Blaxploitation movies.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not so much the video quality...
…as the artistic quality that I was referring to.
There is no poetry, no feeling, no imagination. No fades, no slo-mo, no b-roll, whatever the hell that is.
I think I’m trying to say those videos are simply crap.
by OskiMonsta on Aug 28, 2008 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah… thanks man.
I totally agree.. if Ringer is one of the “top backs in the nation”.. you would think there would be some good HL reels of him… what they got there either means he’s not that explosive or that MSU is a state school full of glorified high school kids who are to busy playing beer pong.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I’m not creating these videos. I’m just taking them from YouTube. So, don’t blame me. Blame a blame pop!
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get all tight man
You’re just not danzig, that’s all.
by OskiMonsta on Aug 28, 2008 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep hearing htat. No matter where I go. At work. At home. In the bedroom. I’ll never be Danzig.
What does it take to be Danzig????
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CGB Top Ten Things It Takes to be Danzig
10) Being Human
9) Not being TwistNHook
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
8-2) ????
1) Profit!!
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Aug 28, 2008 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said that? I agree completely with it, but who said that?
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The wind
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Aug 28, 2008 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit! And I was doing so well with #10.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you explain more about Imeem? And why do you have to create a free account to listen? Is there a way to avoid that?
Jungle Plum is good. I’m struggling to remember the names, but I think Plum Blossom (from Eastern Sounds, I think) is much better.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to create an account??!!! Goddddamnit. Didn’t know that. I’ll put it up on youtube.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You, sir, are a true American hero!
Do you have the mp3? Did you just get it for now? Do you like Yusef Lateef?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I have the MP3, I have the whole album Gentle Giant. I don’t have a ton of stuff from Lateef, but I do listen to some jazz. My ex-girlfriend got me into it after dragging me along to countless live shows…. then I started collecting jazz on vinyl and really got into it.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
countless live shows
I envy you.
Moreover, do you ever listen to any Rahsaan Roland Kirk?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant countless live shows of jazz in general.. not of Lateef, I’ve never seen him live… but in the city, live jazz shows are pretty damn common… you can throw a hotdog across the street and you’ll have a 42% chance of hitting a jazz musician.
Here’s the Hey Jude video i posted on youtube… you can do with it what you want. The quality might not be great b/c I took it off of my ipod.
LINK
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why would you throw a hotdog across the street? or is this some sort of metaphor…
by AndBears on Aug 28, 2008 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For various reasons…
1) to impress dates by throwing with one’s left arm;
2) throwing kosher hot dogs to show your solidarity with the Palestinians;
3) to create a diversion by making bums converge suddenly on the hot dog;
4) to create Jungian phallic symbolism;
5) or maybe I was trying to 3-pointer the garbage can cuz I was just too lazy to cross the street but too conscientious to litter.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard of throwing a hotdog down a hallway, is this a related concept?
by zoonews on Aug 28, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way, I envy you. I try to see a few SFJazz concerts and Yoshi’s concerts a year, but it is $$$ and the timing doesn’t always work well.
Plus, Mingus Big Band plays every tuesday night for you. EVERY TUESDAY NIGHT. GO SEE THEM.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rahsaan Roland Kirk
Never heard of him, but i just listened to Volunteered Slavery on youtube and it was sick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqXYAcVPDD4&fmt=18
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the very video I put up in last week’s YTT (or was it two weeks ago). This saddens me.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoops… um… I just have a horrible recall… you know, with the drugs, booze and womanizing and all that.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is your thought on the Hey Jude song?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS Thanks for putting it up on YouTube.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really dig that song… although since you mentioned it I started to appreciate it more. Esp if you’re in a chill mood the beginning is great. I like the louder ending less.
I really like all jazz covers b/c your mind gives it structure based on prior knowledge of the tune.. and then you can appreciate how the jazz performer is changing it.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the recontextualization of the songs are unique. Esp. a song like Hey Jude, which is pretty sort of basic and then Lateef just tears it apart.
I generally FF to about 3 minutes into the song. I don’t care much for the chill start. It exists to create a longer build, but I get that, so I want to get to the juicy stuff quicker. To the tribal spinning top as it were.
The ending is sick. What do you think of the last like 20 seconds of the song?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it less than the slow start and the middle. I like the guitar during the ending tho.. I think one of his guitarists is using some kind of hollow bodied jazz guitar but using a wah pedal with it… injecting a lot of funk into his jazz and that’s pretty sick sounding.. but not exactly george clinton-esque.
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by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I clearly know less about guitar than you do. So, I can’t speak as to what exactly the type of guitar is. But I love his use of space. He’ll do a lick and then have some silence, then do another lick. It just seems to work in perfectly with the spinning insanity of the rest of the song.
At first, the ending was jarring for me. But I finally got it. It is about control. It’s about giving and taking away. I’ve seen Phillip Glass do the same thing (or heard at least).
Do you like Don Ellis?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I really don’t like that guy… too out there… weird… I listened to a CD of his a while ago on a recommendation and remember thinking it sounded like… like… bad 70s…noise? Don’t remember much after that.
I’ll give him another try, but I’m not really holding my breath or anything. I dig Winton Marsalis’ jazz stuff, and I’ve seen him live and he was sick. And more of the popular trumpet guys… Davis, Gillespie, Baker etc.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What Marsalis? He has some good stuff back in the 80s with noted god Art Blakey. Marsalis’ views on jazz are so insane, though.
What CD did you hear of Ellis? Can I rec Electric Bath and the specific song Night In A Turkish Bath. Its really amazing.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have no idea what CD it was, but I couldn’t get past more than one or two tracks as I recall.
I started out liking Marsalis as a classical musician (since I played trumpet as a kid)… but totally dig his jazz stuff… plus he always gets the best to collab with him.
This is a classic argument tho… just b/c he’s popular doesn’t mean he’s not worth listening to. I’ve seen two of his shows live and he was amazing. He performed Favorite Things and it was sick.
I’ll give Electric Bath a try.
by danzig on Aug 28, 2008 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not trying to say that I don’t like Marsalis, because he’s not popular. I own innumerable albums of his spanning several decades. Some of them, I like. Some of them, I don’t care for. I have found that his stuff in the 80s with Art Blakey is bar none. This isn’t a sort of unmitigated nostalgia for a “better time” (the VERY thing I accuse Marsalis of). Just a general appreciation.
And hey, music is subjective. If you love it, who am I to say otherwise?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MSU Fans
Twist – I just flew in from Detroit to catch the game this weekend, and there were a lot of MSU fans on my flight. They are really pumped up for this game. In fact, one guy told me he heard upwards of 20,000 MSU fans might attend the game. It should be a ton of fun.
by a2bear06 on Aug 28, 2008 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The number of MSU fans increases by 5,000 every day. Either this is some serious hype or Cal fans are going to be embarrassed! Is it still not sold out?
by OskiMonsta on Aug 28, 2008 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For years and years and years Big Game was the only thing that maybe sold out. We’ll get there, but it is tough to sell these early games in this area.
by zoonews on Aug 28, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just read that the Tennessee game last year was our 6th non-Big Game sellout in the last 51 years. We went on to more last season after that, of course. But that’s where we are coming from.
by zoonews on Aug 28, 2008 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How tired are your arms?
Does anybody know how many Tenn fans there were last year? I feel like they’ll be fewer MSU fans.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How tired are my arms? Horrible joke, Twist. As Marc Jackson would say, “you’re better than that”
by a2bear06 on Aug 28, 2008 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Marc Jackson would say, "you’re better than that"
He’s Twist, he’s not better than that.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You clearly know very little about me. I’m actually WORSE than that!
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over at Spartan Tailgate a Cal person writes that “Tennessee fans claimed they’d have 15K at the game and it ended up more like 7 or 8.” So we are talking double that if people aren’t talking out of their ass.

Start counting if you want to know for sure.
by zoonews on Aug 28, 2008 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I counted 4,036. What’d you get?
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve got to stop commenting at the same time.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll start being productive at work when you do.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been very productive today. Until excel froze when I was saving two hours of work. So really, I’ve made very little recorded progess. Something tells me I’ve still done more than you.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That something is CBKWit.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lost count at 3,542.5 … Anyone got the time to count this for me?
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say. You can compute those sections, but how do you count all the other little orange specks? I’ll just make shit up like everyone else. There were easily upwards of approximately 10k, give or take 10k.
by zoonews on Aug 28, 2008 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn it zoonews. I need an accurate number. If I don’t have an exact count by noon, I think we all know what happens.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a good prediction.
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by Maharg on Aug 28, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New time-wasting opportunity
I discovered this site called Fantell reading a thread on Scout.
It is pretty fun. You can predict scores for all games and it breaks down predictions by fans of each team and neutrals. It also has line-ups (2-deeps!) for all the teams and you can view player info and rate them (speed, power, etc.).
The data is pretty good for Cal already but you can always give your player ratings. Not too much on MSU.
Check it out.
by OskiMonsta on Aug 28, 2008 9:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Predictions
The only prediction I feel comfortable making is that there will be a lot of Spartan green in the stands on Saturday. Probably not 15,000 people’s worth, but a lot. The Bay Area is full of Midwest transplants, more so than from Rocky Top, so I expect MSU’s fans to make a bigger impact than Tennessee’s last year. But, they won’t own the stadium. It will still be a Blue-and-Gold day, still Bear Territory.
As far as the game, who knows? Both teams come off of up-and-down years, and while Cal boasts a veteran defense, it’s the same group of veterans who were mediocre for the bulk of last year. Plus they’re sporting a new scheme, and who honestly knows how that will work out? I wouldn’t be surprised if Ringer rung up more than 200 yards on Saturday. I also wouldn’t be surprised if he gets absolutely shut down for less than 50.
One of the biggest mistakes Big-10 teams make is assuming that they can “smash mouth” their Pac-10 opponents. More often than not, they quickly discover that the Pac is far more physical and stout against the run than its reputation would hold, and that the Big-10 teams would be better served by opening things up and testing the West Coasters through the air. Yes, the Pac-10 probably has a few more “athletes” suited to that sort of finesse, speed, aerial brand of football, but the difference isn’t huge.
Because I have faith in the Cal offense, and because I think the Spartans game plan will be too conservative to really test the Bears D, I’m predicting a comfortable Cal victory in the neighborhood of 34-20. But again, this really isn’t a true prediction as much as it is a cautious, hopeful, homerish feeling that Tedford’s team is back on track.
As for jazz, the discussion begins and ends with Duke Ellington, whether played by his own band or by the likes of Thelonious Monk and the other usual suspects. And since the subject has been breached, I’ll once again offer my perennial suggestion that the Cal Band start playing Ellington’s “Blue Pepper” after every big defensive stop—because you all know that the vaunted Blue Pepper defense is nothing to sneeze at.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Aug 28, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I myself love Ellington. I have his biography, although I never actually finished it. I’ve heard some crticism about Billy Strayhorn being lost in the muddle there. I don’t know. But even if his composition is unclear, his playing is unrivaled.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 28, 2008 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Ellington too.. but when it comes to that big band sound, nobody beats Count Basie, Benny Goodman and Lester Young… check em out. Oh yeah, the Ricky Ricardo Orchestra ain’t bad either.
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