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Previewing the Season : USC

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Game #9 : November 8 vs. USC, 5:00 PM (televised on ABC).

TwistNHook:  Oy, I'm schvitzing like a chazzer here thinking about this game.  I need more Manischewitz.

Guys, is there any reason I should stop drinking?  I would totes plotz if that were the case.  But when it comes to USC.  In LA.  Well, I don't always have high hopes for the team.

HydroTech:  Okay, I think most fans know that Southern Cal is loaded pretty much everywhere.  They have talent everywhere.  I think their only weakness, if it can even be considered a weakness, is their OL.  They only return one starter on their OL and that is senior LG Jeff Byers.  As for the other four positions, while the starting lineup certainly isn't set in stone, it appears as if the majority of the other Southern Cal OL starters will be sophomores and juniors. While those players are not returning starters with tons of career starts, they all have game experience from filling in for injured starters and garbage time.  So as highly touted and talented as Southern Cal's OL players may be, perhaps they'll suffer some growing pains with their young players.

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Yellow Fever:  It would appear that the only real question about the Trojans is how effective the passing game will be.  It wasn't been as explosive as it was during the Leinart/Palmer days, but those were heady days indeed and not a standard that could be reasonably expected to be sustained year after year.  And then there's Joe McKnight, who suffered a hyperextended elbow, although that's not expected to keep him out of any regular season action.

I don't have high hopes for our Bears against the Trojans, but if no wide receivers step up, if Mark Sanchez doesn't take over seamlessly for Booty, and if Stafon Johnson and Joe McKnight get into a car accident...maybe our Bears will lose by less than two touchdowns.

TwistNHook:  I guess it kind of depends on how bad this car accident really is.

A lot has been made about the injuries to McKnight and Sanchez.  But there have also been some other injuries for the USC in bad positions (for them, not for the rest of humanity).  Everybody knows Rey Maualuga as the stud MLB.  But they've had some key injuries to his backups in that position, which has thinned depth.

Yes, depth could be bad at the linebacker position.

I guess when it comes to USC, we look for any reason for hope.  Any. 

HydroTech:  Hey, what do you know?  Running back C.J. Gable is injured.  Unfortunately, if Gable isn't able to make it back in time for the start of the season, Southern Cal will be forced to dig into their stable of blue chip 5-star recruits.  Oh the horror.

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Pete Carroll watches practice.  -  Image via mythicmktg.fileburst.com

On the bright side, Joe McKnight is back on the field as is Sanchez.  I wonder who most Southern Cal fans want to see as their starting QB regardless of who is the starter.

TwistNHook:  I have this bad feeling that Patrick Turner is going to rape us out there.  That guy is huge.  All of their WRs are over 6 feet and 200 pounds.  Last year they had some inconsistency at WR (probably due to some of the troubles with Booty, at times).  And maybe with a new QB (and a potentially injured one, at that), that inconsistency will carry over.  But I mean c'mon, these guys are what our WRs can aspire to be.

Really, the weakness on this team is QB.  And that isn't as much weakness as uncertainty.  We all know they have talent, but with the 3rd QB in as many years, will they be able to gel?

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Many USC football players look up to Sanchez and his veteran leadership.  - Image via thegreenskin.com

Their D is going to be siiiiiiiiiiick.  Here is an article from the Four Letter on their stud safety, Taylor Mays:

Firstly, listen to what he says about the O:

"I don't think anybody really impresses me on our offense, but the offense is going to be alright. They've got a lot of athletes and a lot of great players, too. But I'm not going to give them any pub because we're a defensive football team."

That might not win him too many friends on the offense, but anyway, it doesn't matter.  Read this:

Mays ran the Trojans fastest 40 time during the off-season: 4.25.

And he weighs 235 pounds.

On a team like USC Taylor Mays is just ANOTHER great player.  I want more than anything for us to beat USC.  I hate USC.  USC fans fill me with a burning desire to run them over and then hit reverse and give them another solid whacking.  But for the love of everything holy, this team is too good.  We have to be reasonable here.

CBKWit:  I for one am not afraid of Turner.  He has been inconsistent and has generally not lived up to the massive hype he had coming out of high school (when he was ranked higher than DeSean).  Plus, I feel better about our defense backfield than I have in a while (maybe 2006 pre Mixon injury), and the recent recruiting emphasis has been on TALL Dbs (Darian Hagan - 6'1; Kamaron Yancy - 6'0; Sean Cattouse - 6'2; Bryant Nnabuife - 6'1; Chris Conte - 6'3).

And I'll have to disagree on Mays too.  Not that he isn't great.  He's spectacular.  But I disagree that he's just ANOTHER player.  Sure, usc has a number of great players on their defense (Fili Moala, Everson Griffen, and Rey Maualuga come to mind), but Mays' speed and size are incredible, even for usc.

Mays has started since he was a true freshman, a remarkable feat that's even more remarkable when you consider sc's depth.  But he actually came in with another, almost equally touted safety, Antwine Perez.  Perez transferred after Mays beat him out for the starting job and, in a bit of irony, we actually have to play both this year.  Perez ended up at Maryland.


Overall, though, I have to agree with you, Twist.  On paper, and I would bet on the field, this defense looks ridiculous.

ragnarok:  We have to be reasonable?  Why?  USC has never brought anything reasonable out of me before.  I hate them.  So very much.  I hate the colors (red and gold together?  An abomination!), I hate the two songs their band knows, I hate their arrogance, and most of all, I hate that their football team is good enough to back it up.  Having to go down to the LA Coliseum this year and listen to their band play 'Tribute to Troy' 50 bazillion times makes it that much worse.  Even from those terrible visitor section seats they put us in, you can hardly see the action on the field, but you can damn sure hear the damn band.

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Joe McKnight can be difficult to tackle.  -  Image via www.redicecreations.com

So no, I don't think we have to be reasonable here.  We can say things like 'Best > Bu$h!!' and call that reasoning sufficient.  We can say things like 'If Stanford can beat them at the Coliseum, we should win by 3 touchdowns' and completely ignore all of the reasons why that statement is stupid.  We can show pictures we stole from Deadspin that have Matt Leinart hottubbing with some floozies and say that demonstrates, once and for all, why U$C sucks.  We can do all of these things because our collective seething irrational hatred of USC supercedes things like 'facts' and 'reality'.

Honestly, though, I'm not sure a car accident would be enough.  How about a bus breakdown on the way to the game?  One with their entire defense on it.  I think Cal would have a pretty good chance then.

TwistNHook:  You hate red and gold together?  Aren't you a Niners fan?

ragnarok:  Not really, no.  I'm actually not much of a pro football fan.  The college game is way more interesting to me.

TwistNHook:  Yo mama's face is way more interesting to me.

Yellow Fever:  Twist, don't you have an ESPN USC preview article to be cribbing?

TwistNHook:  *sigh* Oh, you guys!

CBKWit: I've hated sc since the 2004 (Aaron Rodgers) game in the coliseum.  Whenever sc scored, the assholes sitting next to us would scream in our faces and flip us off.  When we scored, they would quietly turn away and throw beer on us over their shoulders.  But the topper was, after the 4th down pass was incomplete, they started the "o-ver-ra-ted" chant.  Um, we outgained you 2 to 1.  We had 1st and goal on your 9 yard line to win the game.  You're the number 1 team in the country, at home.  And we're over-rated?  Idiots.

As an aside, one of the most misunderstood parts of that game was 1st and 9 defense by the usc defense.  SC fans would have you believe that their defense made a miraculous stand to win.  Actually, Cal should have scored twice in those four plays.  On 1st down, the ball simply went through the hands of our most reliable receiver, Geoff MacArthur, in the end zone.  On fourth down, Rodgers put the ball right on the money at the goal line to Jonathan Makonnen...who slipped.  If he doesn't slip, touchdown.  The only play that the sc defense really impacted was 2nd (3rd?) down, when Mike Patterson (who was a beast the entire game) blew up a shovel pass to Arrington and Rodgers was forced to eat the ball for a sack.  Anyways, next time an sc fan brings up that goal line stand, feel free to remind them that it wasn't good play by the sc defense that won the game; it was Cal choking away two touchdowns.  That should make you feel really good.

Actually, now that I think of it, I really started hating USC in 2002 (Kareem Kelly's phantom touchdown/no call PI on the last Cal Drive) game.  Getting called a "fucking faggot" repeatedly by the richest and most prominent alums (50 yard line, field level, alumni side) will give you a bad impression of any school, I feel.  I kind of expect that stuff from students, but if you're a 40 year old alum that can afford season tickets on the 50 yard line, maybe it's time to grow up.

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USC fans can be overly enthusiastic about their team at times.  -  Image via i143.photobucket.com

TwistNHook:  Was it last year that USC had injuries to its OLine so horrific that they were literally scanning the campus for large men to play backup?  Have their managed to cure their depth problems at that position?  All the 5 star recruits at RB and WR mean nothing if there aren't holes for them to run through and balls heading their way. 

PS The 15 year old inside of me's head just exploded after writing that sentence.
PPS The 27 year old inside of me's head ALSO just exploded after writing that sentence.

Wait, Hydro answered that question above.  I should really start reading his stuff instead of just glazing over it to see whatever witty anecdote TwistNHook wrote.  That guy is so funny!  Everytime I read one of his hilarious jokes I always wonder "Which 1990s sitcom did he steal this from now?"

Anyway, hmmm, predic(k)s.  I have a bad feeling we aren't going to win this one.  8-2.  Let's keep it close.

HydroTech:  I 4 1, luv Southern Cal.  Just luv em.  Cal wins a tough one 101-1. 

TwistNHook:  That seems like an unrealistic amount of safeties for one team to score.

Yellow Fever:  2-3.  Cal loses its first game of the season.

ragnarok:  '$C 24, Cal 14.  That's 8 straight losses in Los Angeles.  :(

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Whenever some Trojan d-bags in the stands start going off, it’s fun to remind them that the Trojans actually lost embarassingly to the Greeks. They love that. I’d like to see a “Wooden Horse” package that calls for Aaron Rodgers playing in Longshore’s jersey.

Despite the talent mismatch last year, we played them pretty close (though I was so drunk + soaked that I barely remember it). This time, we’ll be pretty under the radar – maybe we can pull the upset just like the tree did.

by bearsglory on Aug 21, 2008 2:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, the Trojan war was fought over some hot Spartan chick who Paris kidnapped that was actually a payoff by Aphrodite for getting the Golden Apple that Strife tossed over the wall to the Most Beautiful Goddess in order to piss everyone off because of one measly little wedding invite gone astray. Also, that game did cost us our boy Achilles. Then after that single epic loss, Aeneas goes on to found Rome after nailing some Carthaginian bitch until Hermes tells him that it’s game time. So all in all, I kind of think they kind of deserve their Classical ranking. But Odysseus got even. He killed or shagged everyone and anything in the Mediterranean for ten years until he went home to his ever faithful Penelope who sort of couldn’t recognize him he was so spent until he said, Baby, Did you miss me?

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Aug 21, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, olsonist. i think that paragraph pretty much sums up a semester’s worth of reading.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Aug 21, 2008 4:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was all Longshore’s fault.

by CalBandGreat on Aug 21, 2008 4:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Longshore was the “Cathaginian bitch” Aeneas was nailing.

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

timeo danaos et ferentes donas

and I’m not that psyched about ferentes arbores, either, but perhaps SC can upset them this year. Hope springs eternal.

by DC Trojan on Aug 28, 2008 11:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, lots of confidence guys. This is really going to be a great game…. massacre … drunken hazy memory. Why am I traveling 400 miles for this again?

by AndBears on Aug 21, 2008 2:57 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your non-platonic love of Cal football?

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 3:01 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For me it’s Pink’s, Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles, Fatburger, and/or Tommy’s.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 21, 2008 3:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They have a Roscoe’s in Oakland.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 3:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was just there in April. It’s been closed down since then??

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:12 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

O rly?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Aug 21, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it sucked and was nothing like the one in LA. Completely different restaurant, same name. I would’ve sued.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 21, 2008 4:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I struggle to remember what the original Roscoe’s was like in Oakland. I went for a prom dinner in the late 90s, but I think it burned down afterwards. Man, snakebitten franchise.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re bailing on the la-la roadtrip tradition in the zoonews family after a pretty solid 15 years. Too much hate, don’t need it.

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 3:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I cried when I read this.

I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.

by Maharg on Aug 21, 2008 4:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thats the same reason he doesnt go to WSU anymore. Too much hate.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:49 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I laughed when I read this.

I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.

by Maharg on Aug 21, 2008 4:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course you did, The Maharg. It’s something I wrote. That’s just a natural feeling.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had no emotion when I read this.

I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.

by Maharg on Aug 21, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s because you are an emotion-less automaton sent back in time to destroy John Conor.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 5:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I felt a panging of sadness when I read this.

I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.

by Maharg on Aug 21, 2008 5:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still have a severe case of pneumonia and depression from our last battle with U$C. I’m not ready to contemplate the next one.

Perfect imagery in this post!

by kittwin on Aug 21, 2008 3:17 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still have a point on my license from the massive speeding ticket I incurred over the grapevine heading BACK from USC in a stuporous, post-loss rage.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 21, 2008 3:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OH GOD YES! Use your powers for evil!

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t think the letters in the picture are big enough. They should, preferably, be covering up the USC Band so we don’t have to see them.

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by 408 on Aug 21, 2008 4:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something not unlike this?

by Berkelium97 on Aug 21, 2008 4:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty much.

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by 408 on Aug 21, 2008 4:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They always proclaim themselves to be world renowned. Besides a few of the band memebers attending a donkey show in TJ, what backup is there for this?

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 4:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Attending? The version that I heard had them participating!

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it wasn’t a donkey, it was Traveler.

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it wasnt in TJ, it was in Pete Carroll’s office!

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by TwistNHook on Aug 21, 2008 5:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wasn’t in Pete Carroll’s office, it was in Pete Carroll’s mouth!

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And by Pete Carroll’s mouth, I mean his anus.

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Although I suppose his office IS his anus…

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:30 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it wasn’t in TJ, it was in the band room.

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it wasn’t a few band members, it was the entire band.

by zoonews on Aug 21, 2008 5:27 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen.

They aren’t even good at marching. Stop wearing sunglasses at night.

by Davis Bear on Aug 21, 2008 8:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That satanic march DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!!

by GreekBear39 on Aug 21, 2008 10:19 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UC has a good football team

that is collectively stricken with massive jock rash. Can we really take these guys seriously?? Does Pete own stock in Tinactin??

I’m calling for a major flare up just prior to the Cal game. We will trade touchdowns for Tinactin and pull it out.

by OskiMonsta on Aug 22, 2008 5:09 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant SC of course

(When will they add a damn editing feature!)

by OskiMonsta on Aug 22, 2008 5:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never

it’s a deliberate decision. they feel it’s important for the comments to be like a conversation, where you can’t take back what you said.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Aug 22, 2008 8:56 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my conversations awfton don’t showcase my spelling inconsistancies. I sound much smrter.

by AndBears on Aug 22, 2008 9:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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