DBD 8.15.08 Get it right, NBC
I want to watch the Olympics. I want to enjoy the splendor and the squalor. The dizzying highs, the terrifying lows, the creamy middles.
But NBC, you aren't making it easy. Everytime I turn on the TV, you are blasting "SOON! MICHAEL PHELPS! THEN, UNDERAGE GIRLS LEAPING AROUND IN SKIN TIGHT CLOTHES."
Now, ok, I could go for some underage girls leaping around in skin tight clothes. Who wouldn't? Only to appreciate their precision and technique, of course. Nobody is a bigger fan of precision and technique than me.
But when does this all come on? Like 2:30 in the morning. First, you have to watch an hour of synchronized diving. And look, it's kind of a cool sport. I mean at first, it's kind of just falling forward at the same time. And I loved when the announcer was talking about one of the American divers moving to Indianapolis to train with her partner. She said:
"Being in the same city as your partner is important in synchronized diving."
What?!!? You don't say! Couldn't they do it over the phone
"1, 2, drop the phone and go!"
So, I could deal with an hour of synchronized diving. But a hour EVERY night???? Then, a hour of beach volleyball!??!?! Again, I could watch it once, maybe twice. Look, I get it, it's chicks in bikinis. NBC loves that.
All I know is it keeps me from my beloved 15 year olds.
And, ok, I can do basic math. I can understand that this all happens 12 hours in the future, so it mostly happens overnight in America.
But wait, that's 12 hours in the future for the East Coast. Screw the East Coast, NBC. Nobody cares about that freak seaboard.
You know what we do for fun out here on the Cool coast? Rock climbing or skiing or rock skiing (which, btw, is totes siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick). You know what they do for fun on the East Coast?
They drive to other states to watch the seasons change. "Oh, wow, that foliage is slighter redder than yesterday. Vermont is so lovely this time of year. Let's picnic."
We don't use picnic as a verb on THIS coast! And they buy their groceries from places called the "Piggly-Wiggly." I don't even have to explain any further on that one. Let that sink in for a second. Piggly Wiggly. They are "Big On The Pig." They buy their fried chicken from gas stations. Well, OK, that one isn't that bad.
via astroluxe.com
"GET THE JO-JOS!"
Either way, people like that don't deserve to watch cool sports at reasonable hours. But we do! Show the Olympics to us live. East Coasters are used to sports ending at unreasonable hours. Most As games don't even start until 10 over there. We aren't used to it, though. Our sporting events start at 7.
You are ruining the Olympics, NBC. Get it right. Get it right!
And now, onto some links:
Exhibition women's soccer this saturday against St. Mary's. Go Cal! But also Go Gaels!
BERKELEY, Calif. - The California women's soccer team kicks off the 2008 season with an exhibition game against Saint Mary's Saturday, Aug. 16, at 3 p.m. at Edwards Stadium. Admission will be charged -- $8 for adults, $4 for seniors and free for those high school age and under. Live stats will be available for all home Cal women's soccer games again this season.
Cal finished the 2007 season with a 15-5-1 record in their first year under head coach Neil McGuire. The Golden Bears tied for third in the Pac-10 with Stanford with a 6-3 mark. Cal advanced to the second round of the NCAA Tournament, marking the program's ninth postseason appearance in the last 10 years and fourth in a row. Cal looks to ride the momentum of a 7-0-1 mark over the final eight games of last season.
More info on Natalie Coughlin at the Olympics. I don't want to give spoilers out, but she's so dreamy! Sorry!
Cal football has a scrimmage:
Berkeley - Eleven days into its fall camp, the California football team scrimmaged for the first time at Memorial Stadium, as quarterbacks Nate Longshore, Kevin Riley and Brock Mansion all got reps on Thursday evening.
"I thought for a first scrimmage, it was pretty clean," said head coach Jeff Tedford. "It was pretty penalty-free for the most part; with it being the first day handling the clock and game situations, I was impressed by how that happened. We still need to get a lot better in certain situations so we'll continue to work at those. For the most part, I thought it was well-organized and the kids did a nice job."
Riley, who took his first snap under center with the second unit drove the team down the field, culminating with a three-yard touchdown throw in the back corner of the end zone to LaReylle Cunningham.
Freshman Covaughn DeBoskie was the beneficiary of a 1-yard touchdown run when Mansion drove the third team down the field in the third possession of the scrimmage.
Longshore, later in the scrimmage, hooked up with senior Sean Young, who made a sliding catch in the end zone.
Interview with Cal Olympian Shellie Onstead.
Okanes gives time for Big Game:
Just received word that The Big Game on Nov. 22 will start at 12:30 p.m. TV plans aren’t set yet.
And he has more info on the scrimmage:
–Jahvid Best was held out of the scrimmage as part of his designed rest this fall. Backup Shane Vereen took advantage, rushing for 71 yards on 11 carries. Vereen also was in on punt and kick returns.
Vereen has been hampered by a sprained ankle this fall and says he’s still not feeling totally healthy.
“I still think I have a step-and-a-half missing,” he said. “It makes it easy when your O-line and fullback are blocking well. Your lack of speed doesn’t show as much.”
One of the more memorable moments from the scrimmage came on a punt return, when freshman Covaughn DeBoskie crushed Vereen too early as he was attempting to field the punt. It was a big hit, and one that resulted in a scolding from coach Jeff Tedford.
“If I was sleeping, it would have woke me up,” Vereen said.
Screw you with your East Coast bias, NBC. Dump away! And Go Bears!
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Article on ESPN about Cal swimmer Milorad Cavic’s criticism of Michael Phelps for essentially being too good.
BEIJING — Just in time to pour cold water on the coronation, we go to Serbian swimmer Milorad Cavic at the Water Cube:
“It would be good for the sport if he lost.”
You know who “he” is. Michael Phelps, the man who has cornered the market on Beijing bling. The owner of six gold medals and six world records in these Olympics. The guy who is striving to make it a great eight this weekend, then presumably will walk across the pool surface to the final medal ceremony.
This was not a quote that was bollixed in translation. Cavic is from California, born to Serbian parents who immigrated to the U.S. in 1982. He didn’t simply say it once, he said it twice.
“I think it would be good for the sport and good for him,” Cavic said.
I’m going to take a wild guess that Phelps might disagree with that line of thinking. And that roughly 30 million Americans who have been glued to their TVs this past week might not see it that way, either.
It certainly would be good for Milorad Cavic if Michael Phelps lost to him Saturday morning in the 100-meter butterfly final. And good for Serbia, which has never won a swimming medal. Cavic has qualified fastest for the final, .05 seconds ahead of Phelps, who clearly was not going to kill himself to win a semifinal.
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by TwistNHook on Aug 15, 2008 8:05 AM PDT 0 recs
If you scroll way down in that article there is a lot more information on Cavic. Good stuff.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 8:07 AM PDT
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Cavic just dug his own grave. I’m sure that clipping’s taped to Phelps’s head now.
by BearsNecessity on
Aug 15, 2008 1:15 PM PDT
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I doubt that Phelps needs anymore inspiration to achieve his goals.
“Well, I wasn’t sure about whether I need to record history, win 8 golds, and achieve what I’ve worked 23 years for. But NOW it’s on.”
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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And Phelps beats Cavic by 0.01s.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 16, 2008 1:43 AM PDT
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Called it.
And Phelps quoted Cavic’s quote as motivation.
Oh Twist, I am the Michael Phelps of this thread, and you are Calvic. Time to put this on my resume.
by BearsNecessity on
Aug 16, 2008 3:20 AM PDT
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Is Phelps needed Cavic’s quote as motivation, he is not the swimmer I thought he was.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 16, 2008 6:41 AM PDT
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Uh...
you should watch him swim. I don’t know what you thought he was, but I know he’s the best swimmer (and one of the greatest athletes) of all time.
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by CBKWit on
Aug 16, 2008 8:16 PM PDT
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Wouldn’t the best swimmer and one of the greatest athletes of our time be so wildly self-motivated that the words of others would have no effect on him?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 16, 2008 9:10 PM PDT
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The Longshore of swimming so to speak.
/Twisted
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 16, 2008 9:21 PM PDT
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Facts
1) He has won more gold medals than any other athlete ever. Tonight he has a chance to break the record for most gold medals at one olympics (the race already happened, but I want to watch it without knowing what happens).
2) He said, immediately after the race last night, that Cavic’s remarks motivated him.
If you’re going to hold against him the fact that he uses bulletin board material, be my guest. He is the greatest swimmer ever, one of the greatest athlete’s ever, and he gets some motivation from others talking. To question his ability or his performance, which is unrivaled in olympic history, because he reads the papers is a bit silly, in my opinion. Tiger Woods shares this trait, but that doesn’t make him any less of an athlete.
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by CBKWit on
Aug 16, 2008 9:55 PM PDT
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I saw the interview. I saw the race. I don’t doubt that this thing motivated him. That seems clear. I can’t dispute that.
Also, clear is the fact that he is one of the greatest athletes to ever walk the planet and perhaps the greatest swimmer of all time. I certianly can’t dispute that, either.
All I am saying is that I previously thought he was this wildly self-motivated and absurdly competitive athlete (similar to a Michael Jordan). Now, I see that that is not quite the case.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 16, 2008 10:22 PM PDT
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Do you think these guys are robots? Their emotion is their humanity. Gary Payton made a good play on Michael Jordan once and ventured a little trash talking. It motivated MJ to strip The Glove three straight times.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 16, 2008 10:42 PM PDT
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Costas just compared Phelps to Jordan
in the way that they both extract motivation from criticism by their opponents.
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by CBKWit on
Aug 17, 2008 12:19 AM PDT
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Look, when I started this site, I started it for 1 reason and 1 reason alone.
To completely and totally destroy and dominate all other sports blogs.
I will not rest until that goal is accomplished. I am so singularly focused on that goal, that the words of others have no effect on me.
I thought it was not an insult to compare Phelps to myself. But now I see that I am inaccurate.
Maybe someday, Michael. Maybe someday.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 17, 2008 7:00 AM PDT
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Some bitter people said the same thing about Lance Armstrong. And now that he’s gone, look where the Tour is! Ha!
by bears'R'us on
Aug 16, 2008 2:30 PM PDT
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It's a tie!!! It's a tie!!!
The SFGate is reporting:
Senior incumbent Nate Longshore and sophomore Kevin Riley took equal series with the first and second teams and had similar stats. Longshore was 8 of 17 for 78 yards with a touchdown and an interception, and Riley was 10 of 16 for 70 yards and two scores.
That sure sounds like a tie. About even. Hard to tell the difference. Probably should go with experience.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Aug 15, 2008 8:36 AM PDT 0 recs
Actually, I think it goes to the House Of Representatives for a vote.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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SFGate is staffed with retards
…we know that… I think what he means is that neither QB is distinguishing himself… Coach has said as much.
by danzig on
Aug 15, 2008 8:56 AM PDT
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Riley had a higher completion percentage than longshore and had zero turnovers...
sounds like a tie to me?
by 33SwisherSweet on
Aug 15, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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Sounds like a tie to Tedford...
…cuz there’s a lot more to the position than that.
by zoonews on
Aug 15, 2008 10:39 AM PDT
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But Okanes says ….
Kevin Riley slightly outplayed Nate Longshore at quarterback, and has been coming on lately. The past 4 or 5 days, Riley seems to be improving his accuracy, cutting down on mistakes and playing with more confidence. Riley was 10-for-16 for 70 yards and two touchdowns while Longshore was 8-for-17 for 78 yards, one touchdown and one interception.
by sec119 on
Aug 15, 2008 10:41 AM PDT
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But Olsonist says…..
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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So I says to Mabel, I says…
I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.
by Maharg on
Aug 15, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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That car was like that when I got here!
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 11:35 AM PDT
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Twist
Is that a reference to Driving Miss Daisy… or have you actually seen a Piggly-Wiggly?
by danzig on Aug 15, 2008 8:57 AM PDT 0 recs
Oh, I’ve seen them. I even have a Piggly Wiggly shirt, which I only wear ironically, of course.
I’ve never seen Driving Miss Daisy, though.
SBN Sister Site Rock M Nation has this to say about Cal:
Game-Changing Stats
* Q2 Defense
* Rushing Offense, particularly on 1st Downs/Non-Passing Downs
* Q4 Offense
* Redzone Offense
Top Ranks
#2: Offensive Q2 Passing S&P+
#3: Offensive 1st Down S&P+
#4: Offensive Q2 S&P+
#5: Offensive Non-Passing Downs S&P+
Bottom Ranks
#121: Defensive 2nd Down Passing S&P+
#114: Defensive Q2 Rushing S&P+
#105: Defensive 2nd Down S&P+
#103: Defensive Q3 Passing S&P+
Raise your hand if you realized that Cal finished below both Oregon State and Arizona in the Pac 10 standings last year. Yeah, that’s what I thought. On October 13, Cal was 5-0 and #2 in the country, having just won in Eugene the previous week. Two months later, Cal was 6-6. The only thing that prevented them from missing a bowl altogether was a 3-point home win against lowly Wazzu. Injuries to Nate Longshore and Desean Jackson slowed the offense down, but…I mean…that collapse is just staggering. That they actually managed to win the bowl game after falling behind big early, after awful performances at Washington (37-23) and Stanford (20-13) to end the season, is somewhat miraculous.
Few coaches in America are probably happier to start a new season than Jeff Tedford. Nevermind that he has to replace most of his skill position players—Justin Forsett, DeSean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins, Robert Jordan—he’s got both QBs and most of his top defenders back, and…well…2008 probably can’t be more painful than 2007. The main source of attention this August has been the QB battle, and it appears for now that Longshore is holding off Kevin Riley, who filled in for him with decent results last fall. Longshore seems to be a pretty frustrating guy—he’s capable of more than any of the other QBs, both good and bad. Despite solid protection from the O-line last year, he managed only a 16-13 TD-INT ratio.
Whoever wins the QB battle, he’ll have nothing but new weapons around him. You can’t figure a Jeff Tedford offense will be unproductive, but this year will test that theory. Youngsters like Jahvid Best, Shane Vereen and Tracy Slocum are battling for the RB job, while the likes of JUCO transfer Verran Tucker, Florida transfer Nyan Boateng, and some other young players are fighting for WR PT.
Defensively, Cal has some potential star power. The LB corps of Zack Follett, Anthony Felder and Worrell Williams is potentially outstanding, Syd’Quan Thompson is looking good at CB (plus his CB counterpart will likely be either Chris Conte or Darian Hagan’s Son, both of whom got PT as true freshmen last year. Plus, the D-Line returns quite a bit of experience, led by DE Tyson Alualu, but they need to produce a better pass rush.
In all, the defense should be solid, and the offense will be athletic, but it likely all boils down to QB performance. Longshore looks the part (6’5, 230+) but has only managed a 41-27 TD-INT ratio in his career; Riley got some good experience last year but wasn’t able to differentiate himself from Longshore. One of them has to seize the opportunity and lead Cal back to what it’s capable of achieving.
Verdict: I can’t imagine Cal gravitates toward .500 again, but collapses like last year’s can linger for a while. Getting a lot of new blood in the skill positions might actually be a good thing, but one of the QBs has to become a strong leader.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 9:03 AM PDT
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He has Cal going to the Sun Bowl, coming in 4th in the Pac10.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 9:12 AM PDT
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Okanes take
In the Contra Costa Times:
Kevin Riley slightly outplayed Nate Longshore at quarterback, and has been coming on lately. The past 4 or 5 days, Riley seems to be improving his accuracy, cutting down on mistakes and playing with more confidence. Riley was 10-for-16 for 70 yards and two touchdowns while Longshore was 8-for-17 for 78 yards, one touchdown and one interception.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Aug 15, 2008 9:16 AM PDT 0 recs
But I thought it was a tie?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
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A rare photo of Twist and Olsonist engaging in foreplay.
Wait, this isn’t a caption contest?
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by Maharg on
Aug 15, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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Yikes. I should have read the entire DBD before posting above; poor DBD etiquette on my poart.
by sec119 on
Aug 15, 2008 10:44 AM PDT
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Actually, that’s the 3rd time it was posted. I put it in my original post, Olsonist posted it again (which a different quote) and then you (with the same quote as Olsonist).
But it’s OK. As long as the same thing is posted 3 times in the same thread, I’m happy. Let’s just keep it from being posted 3 times in 3 separate fanposts, yknowwhatimsaying?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
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If only we could do a front page story!
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 11:09 AM PDT
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I’ll keep creating accounts to recommend my own post until it is the only post on ANY of the pages because it has gazillion trillion recommendations. Then all your CGBs are belong to ME1!!!!!
by zoonews on
Aug 15, 2008 11:24 AM PDT
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I recently noticed you can recommend posts in a FanPost. NOt sure exactly what this does.
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
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Ultimately it takes over the world and hoards valuable resources. I am surprised that you do not know this.
by zoonews on
Aug 15, 2008 11:53 AM PDT
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Woah. Now your post is green. WTF?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 2:09 PM PDT
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Now, you are green with envy!
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
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I recommended it, who else did?
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by Maharg on
Aug 15, 2008 3:21 PM PDT
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I for one, welcome zoonews as our new green overlord.
by CalBandGreat on
Aug 15, 2008 2:16 PM PDT
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Why is she receiving a rose in bed?
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 2:31 PM PDT
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So romantic. That photo is like a promo for The Bachelor: Depends Edition.
by Itchy25 on
Aug 15, 2008 2:43 PM PDT
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Good eye! The people were taken from a latex mattress ad.
by zoonews on
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Does anyone know why the synchronized divers always immediately shower off following their dives? I never see swimmers showering instantly.
by Berkelium97 on Aug 15, 2008 10:01 AM PDT 0 recs
See Yahoo.
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by Maharg on
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what would you do
if you got out of the water and had to take another dive soon? the Yahoo article is a little ‘scientific’ about the change in temperatures, but the NBC analyst kind of had it right. The divers aren’t thinking about their change in body temperatures, just that when they get out of the pool they realize they’re a little cold, and want to either shower or go to the hot tub. You go to any diving practice and if they don’t have showers, they definitely have some hot tubs.
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by PolarBear on
Aug 15, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
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TNH, your dedication to the DBD is commendable. I slept in after watching my tape-delayed ‘live’ broadcast all the way through the all-around gymnastics results, which ended after 1 am.
by sec119 on Aug 15, 2008 10:47 AM PDT 0 recs
Well, I’m planning on not doing a weekend DBD, so if you wanna grab that, it’s ALL yours!
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by TwistNHook on
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I too have found NBC’s Olympic coverage, at best, confusing. I would have thought that given all the advances in streaming video, OnDemand TV, etc etc, that I should have no problem catching the events that interest me. This just hasn’t been the case. I feel like I’ve seen enough swimming prelims to last me for the rest of my life.
by Itchy25 on Aug 15, 2008 11:02 AM PDT 0 recs
I was chatting with a friend of mine living in Singapore yesterday. He said they have 7 channels streaming live events. Sure, they have a time advantage on us. Fair enough. But I’d watch a ton of other stuff. On the weekends, all of NBC’s channels were showing tons of different events. I was enjoying them, for sure.
The audience is there, but NBC isn’t putting it in a manner that makes it easy to watch. Hell, I’d even watch events the day after. Show the swimming and gymnastics from the day before. I’d watch that, even if I was vaguely aware of who won what, a lot more than beach volleyball and synchronized diving!
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by TwistNHook on
Aug 15, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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Yeah, I’d prefer catching events a day late, but at a reasonable time as well. The way they have it set up now seems to punish folks who can’t stay up till midnight or later. Perhaps they are assuming people are just going to Tivo the stuff anyways?
by Itchy25 on
Aug 15, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
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Yes, enough with the beach volleyball. I root for losses just to make it stop. And I like beach volleyball! Just not in lethal mega-doses.
by zoonews on
Aug 15, 2008 11:25 AM PDT
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ZBoy, Sorry, but what's not to like?

Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Aug 15, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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And the Germans they are playing against are gorgeous too. Nice.
by Itchy25 on
Aug 15, 2008 11:47 AM PDT
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I don’t really sexualize female athletes, never have. I think it has something to do with me being a lazy unmotivated slob.
by zoonews on
Aug 15, 2008 12:20 PM PDT
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I don’t sexualize female atheletes either. I respect them too much.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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