DBD 7.9.08 Vote Tony Gonzalez For Tony Gonzalez!
If you guys didn't hear, Tony Gonzalez saved a man's life! Another man! He's such a swell guy! He should run for mayor. No! He should run for President! No, he should run for the most prestigious position available in the entire global world: Tony Gonzalez.
Yes, vote Tony Gonzalez for Tony Gonzalez! It's the part he was born to play! He's the man for the job.
Sweet Marshawn video over at the Bills website. Its a few months old, but this is the first I'm seeing of it. It basically talks about how he's helping a rookie friend of his try to make the team. I like when he says he learned a lot last year from the OGs on the team.
This news is a little old, but it can't hurt to stress that Cal got 7th place in the Director's Cup standings (the "Overall Sports" ranking).
Below is a year-by-year look at Cal's finishes in the Directors' Cup:
17th in 1993-94
13th in 1994-95
30th in 1995-96
26th in 1996-97
19th in 1997-98
23rd in 1998-99
15th in 1999-00
12th in 2000-01
20th in 2001-02
9th in 2002-03
9th in 2003-04
15th in 2004-05
7th in 2005-06
9th in 2006-07
7th in 2007-08Cal scored Directors' Cup points in the following sports in 2007-08:Men's Water Polo - 1st (100)
Women's Tennis -2nd (90)
Women's Rowing - 3rd (85)
Women's Volleyball - 3rd (83)
Men's Swimming and Diving - 4th (80)
Women's Swimming and Diving - 5th (75)
Men's Gymnastics - 5th (73)
Softball - 9th (64)
Men's Cross Country - 16th (42)
Football - 26th (45)
Women's Track and Field - 22nd (51)
Women's Basketball - 17th (50)
Women's Soccer - 17th (50)
Men's Soccer - 17th (50)
Men's Tennis - 17th (50)
Women's Golf - 34th (39)
Women's Indoor Track and Field - 34th (38)
Baseball - 49th (25)
Men's Indoor Track and Field - 57th (16)
Men's Golf - 59th (14)
Men's Track and Field - 71st (0)**Points are awarded in a maximum of 10 men's and women's sports. Because Cal scored higher in 10 sports other than men's track & field, no points were accumulated for the 71st-place finish.
Final Director's Cup Standings
1. Stanford 1461.00
2. UCLA 1182.00
3. Michigan 1161.50
4. Arizona State 1146.00
5. Texas 1129.50
6. Florida 1126.75
7. California 1120.00
8. Louisiana State 1085.00
9. Penn State 1041.00
10. Georgia 1040.00
More Crew news I can't fully follow. Sounds good to me, though!
BERKELEY - California volunteer assistant coach Luke Agnini will coach the U.S. lightweight men's four without coxswain at the 2008 FISA World Rowing Under 23 Championships slated for July 17-20 in Brandenburg, Germany, USRowing announced on Monday.
Heather Petri, the most veteran player on the US Olympic Water Polo team, went to Cal. This is her 3rd Olympics and she has high hopes.
Petri likens her first Olympics to being on a "speeding train and I was glued to the window, looking at whatever I could," she said. "Everything was overwhelming and kind of crazy, but now I'm finally at a place that I'm enjoying everything and getting the most out of the experience."
As the oldest player on the team, Petri has a natural leadership role, checking on players and often being the one who sets up team functions.
"I love the feeling on this team," Petri said. "This team is really cohesive, and the energy in practices you can just feel how everyone wants to do well.
"We all know it's possible, especially after the World Championships."
Petri was known as a role player before, but she has picked up her offense considerably to the point where Baker said she is playing her best water polo in her career.
Hesiman Pundit puts Cal in the "On The Cusp" section of its blog regarding football. Ok.
TIME FOR A DECISION
Editors, Daily Planet:
Judge Barbara Miller issued a ruling on June 18 that was neither here nor there. The sitters are still in the trees. The university has not broken ground. The city has not taken advantage of the potential to win by responding to university efforts to negotiate an end to the standoff.
After 18 months, you'd think the judge could settle this thing. But she has repeatedly taken the maximum allowable time to make a decision at each stage of the case. Now she's asked for more information, and along with it comes another 60 days of decision-making. If her most recent ruling sends any clues, the university will ultimately prevail, leaving the city with nothing but an enormous bill from its lawyers.
Two entities are being hurt here: the university to the tune of an estimated $11 million in construction delays and the taxpayers who pay the bills. Those bills are running close to half a million dollars in city and state expenditures on legal fees.
It's time for all the involved parties to act responsibly and settle among themselves. If the past is an indicator, Judge Miller won't bring this all to an end for several more months. It's time for some courage and responsibility from all sides.
Linda Schacht
John Gage
I really hope this guy lives by the stadium and is annoyed by the lights.
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS
Editors, Daily Planet:
I know well of the oak grove tree -sit, because UC Berkeley has decided to contribute to the growing light pollution of this town. You can see the grove from miles away, just because of generator lights. And what are these lights doing? Keeping away evil spirits? Bedtime monsters? Other various creepy crawlies?
Please UC Berkeley, Turn off the lights so we can all get some rest.
John Dougherty
WIDESPREAD SUPPORT?!
Editors, Daily Planet:
Is this really about the trees? I’m perplexed that the mayor and City Council continue to support small fringe groups like the tree-sitters and Code Pink, despite the fact that the public is obviously in opposition. I live in West Berkeley and know of no one—not one single person—who supports the tree-sitters anymore. Berkleyans for Cal, a new group set up to give people like us a voice, has gathered almost 9,000 signatures. Yet the City Council is responding to the whim of a few people to continue this madness.
Why do I call this madness? Their actions are not giving us any alternative and they’re not raising awareness of a serious deforestation problem in this country. Even if they were to succeed their actions are only going to save the equivalent of someone’s backyard full of trees. Meanwhile, we can do things as a community and set an example for the country. On example of many: In concrete construction the West Coast happens to be the laughing stock of the United States. All of the lumber is here along with the tree huggers, yet California somehow refuses to embrace re-usable formwork and instead builds concrete forms out of raw lumber. These forms are subsequently damaged by stress and chemicals to the point where they can’t even be recycled. We have a second problem with the tons and tons of trees that are cut down every second and delivered to our mailboxes in the form of junk mail.
By not looking at where we have the power to make a difference we’re simply barking up the wrong tree.
Brian Webb
THE TREE-SIT SAGA
Editors, Daily Planet:
I love reading the Daily Planet—the hilarious coverage of the tree-sit saga has afforded countless hours of laughter at the delusional "progressives" who chose to make this whole thing into a "cause."
I nearly choked with mirth the other day when Martha Nicoloff called the tree-sitters "saints." No, Martha—they are turd-tossing, urine-dumping infants. And I hear that "Millipede" is on her way to Santa Barbara on outstanding warrants for theft. We sure could use more saints like her.
Katlin Moore's ludicrous commentary, "City Must Continue Lawsuit Against UC," was the topper. She claims "international" support for the tree-sit. Really? Details, please. She claims to represent "tens of thousands of Berkeley residents." Where are all those people? Certainly not protesting—more likely they’re at Berkeley Bowl or down on Fourth Street shopping like good, upscale American consumers. There is zero evidence that the actual supporters of the tree-sit number more than 100, if that many.
There is no "indisputable" evidence of any "sacred" burial grounds—only a single skeleton of undetermined ethnicity found in the 1920s. The only native "leader" calling UC's actions a "hate crime" is that unemployed loudmouth (and vandal of public property) Zachary Running Wolf, who is probably the most entertaining nutcase of all, especially when he and Ayr fight over who gets in front of the TV cameras first.
But why rely on facts and reason when lies and emotion are so much more fun?
How far Berkeley has fallen from the Golden Era of the 1960s, if this is what passes for activism these days.
They say we get the elected officials we deserve. I urge all Berkeley voters to replace Tom Bates with Running Wolf ASAP. Let the circus continue!
Michael StephensRichmond
Ok, not a lot of new Cal related news, but we got some stuff there. You see anything else, let's dump away!
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anyone else think the blinking eye on the Heisman Pundit page is creepy?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 9:18 AM PDT
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woah
So VERY creepy. Sauron’s eye was less creepy.
The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die
by Calfan on
Jul 9, 2008 10:06 AM PDT
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not really, but...
“He conceived and directed the successful Heisman campaigns of both Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart.” How could ragnarok post something from someone connected to the Evil Empire of the South? Now, that’s disturbing!
Life-time Member of the Dumpster Muffin Fan Club
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Jul 9, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
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Huh?
First place in Men’s Water Polo gets 100 points and 26th place in Football gets 45?
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
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WTF
Why no Director’s Cup points for RUUUUGGGGBBBYYY???? If Rugby counted then we’d be 5th or something. WTF!
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Jul 9, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
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rubgy and men's crew
are not NCAA-sponsored sports, and are thus don’t count towards the Director’s Cup.
yeah, kinda sucks that those are two of our best sports…
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 10:19 AM PDT
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hey, look! we’re on facebook!
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 10:29 AM PDT
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cool
I want to see if I’m better looking than Twisted.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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People have said I look kind of like Brad Pitt if you added some Johnny Depp and threw in a bit of Tom Cruise. But without the crazy.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 10:51 AM PDT
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you mean you don’t belong to some sort of cultish religion started by some guy during the middle of the 20th century?
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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I thought you liked me. sobs
PS Nobody is going to get that and let’s keep it that way.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 11:13 AM PDT
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You had me worried there for a second. People think I’m Tony Gonzalez twin brother.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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Are you his evil twin brother Gony Tonzalez? DAMN YOU, TONZALEZ!
shakes fist
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
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Hah! In real life, I am a twin and I am most definitely the evil twin.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 11:16 AM PDT
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shakes fist
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
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Twist looks like Pitt + Depp + Cruise - Crazy??
People have said I look kind of like Brad Pitt if you added some Johnny Depp and threw in a bit of Tom Cruise. But without the crazy.
Hmmmm, not quite Twist… 
I’d say you look more like the bastard child of Alex from ‘Taxi’....
... and Tygra from the ‘Thunder Cats’...
... but with down syndrome.
by danzig on
Jul 9, 2008 11:45 AM PDT
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Your laser eyes impress us all.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
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Damn, I totally forgot about Klinger from MASH… my memory is such crap now… DAMN YOU cannabis!!!

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Jul 9, 2008 11:54 AM PDT
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you also forgot to add crazy
I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.
by Maharg on
Jul 9, 2008 12:02 PM PDT
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Flashback to the 80's
Imagining the lovechild of Tygra and Corky (“Life Goes On”) as a football blogger … yep, that sounds about right.
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Jul 9, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
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What, we don’t waste enough time on the comments here, now we’re supposed to waste time on facebook too?
I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.
by Maharg on
Jul 9, 2008 12:03 PM PDT
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La Dumpster Muffin has a Facebook group too, and she has more members.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 12:07 PM PDT
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clearly, we have overestimated our popularity...
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 12:11 PM PDT
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actually
each group has 5 members.
by RollOnYouBears667 on
Jul 9, 2008 4:24 PM PDT
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5? Sweet
big jump in membership today…
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 4:29 PM PDT
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haha
I don’t want to get my ID thefted, but maybe one of them was me. And maybe it wasn’t.
by RollOnYouBears667 on
Jul 9, 2008 4:30 PM PDT
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well, as an admin, i know your name and email address, so i know who you is, and who you ain’t. but i won’t say anything more than that.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 4:32 PM PDT
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Damn
Thats kinda intimidating.
by RollOnYouBears667 on
Jul 9, 2008 4:37 PM PDT
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hahah
don’t worry about it, man. i wouldn’t even know how to abuse information like that.
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 6:24 PM PDT
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We really need to add the “Social Security Number” portion of the screen name sign up.
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 8:30 PM PDT
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... and apparently a minimum penis size requirement too. How the hell did Twist get in here?
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Jul 9, 2008 9:16 PM PDT
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he registered after watching dumpster muffin for hours
I kissed Dumpster Muffin and I liked it. The taste of her hippie chapped lips.
by Maharg on
Jul 9, 2008 11:14 PM PDT
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she's named October?
is that her actual name, or was she just a Miss October of something?
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by ragnarok on
Jul 9, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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Tony G's got my vote
I can’t believe you guys are revealing your secret identities via facebook.
Did the football team really come in 26th place last year? That’s not too bad given we lost to some craptacular teams like Stanfurd and Udub.
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Jul 9, 2008 12:51 PM PDT
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nah, it's pretty much just me
i’ve made no real effort to conceal my identity, freely giving it out in responding to email and on internet radio appearances. the rest of the golden bloggers? you may never find out their true identity (but especially HydroTech!)
personally, i’ve never felt any need to conceal my identity. adopting an internet an internet nom de plume was done without much thought, basically because it’s the style of the times.
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Jul 9, 2008 2:17 PM PDT
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First good insight in to Cignetti
Essential read over at BearsNecessity:
Cignetti Analysis
Avi asks actual Fresno State fans what Cignetti is like.
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Jul 9, 2008 1:46 PM PDT
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agreed
good stuff, worth checking out
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play calling for Longshore vs Riley
This article begs the question of Michalczik’s play calling with Longshore vs Riley. Maybe by paring back the playbook with Riley he went with the effective versus the obscure. Also, it sounds as if Michalczik is a real Longshore partisan. Perhaps with Cignetti, he’ll be open minded and want someone who after investing some time in him, he’ll be there next year.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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Jul 9, 2008 3:36 PM PDT
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DBP article on a new lawsuit challenging the UC Regents. It’s not really relevant, but this line might cause chills to go down your spine:
The actions, filed late last month in Alameda County Superior Court, charge that the UC Board of Regents acted illegally when it approved environmental impact reports (EIRs) for both the Helios Building and the Computational Research and Theory (CRT) facility.
This is like the Never-Ending Story!
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 1:48 PM PDT
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50 year feud
This goes to show that the COB and the UC hate each other… and that the COB do not share any common motivations with the tree-sitters or the Oak Foundation. If the COB decides to appeal, it won’t because the Oak Foundation.
This is about the COB hating the UC due to 50yrs of expansion. This is about how the UC is legally exempt from COB laws and statutes and how that pisses the COB off. The COB has decided to make life hell for the UC regardless of the facts.
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This suit actually upsets me more than the stadium b/c these buildings are for science and the benefit of all mankind. To see what these buildings are about read, “Gentlemen, Start Your Dozers“
To see where these building will be built: 
A: Greek theater
B: Computational Research and Theory (CRT) facility
C: Helios Building
Helios Building - will be used for Solar Energy research!!!
Computational Research and Theory (CRT) facility - will be used for environmental research, fusion energy research, basic energy science, astrophysics, and climate change research
That’s right folks… COB wants to stop the UC from engaging in alternative energy research!! At a time when gas is $4/gal.
The COB are a bunch of sore-loser assholes.
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Jul 9, 2008 2:32 PM PDT
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where are you getting gas for only $4 a gallon?
i saw over $5.50 a gallon up by yosemite this weekend. things have gone completely crazy.
but i agree, the COB has a ridiculously adversarial relationship with the main reason there’s a thriving town in the first place, and i’ve considered changing my voter registration back to berkeley just so i can vote for someone, anyone else this fall.
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Jul 9, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
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really? $5.50?
whoops… I live in Manhattan so I don’t have a car.
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Jul 9, 2008 2:49 PM PDT
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I bet you in Manhattan its like 8 bucks a gallon!
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Jul 9, 2008 3:35 PM PDT
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I have no clue. I think there are 2 gas stations on Lafayette and Houston but I don’t recall what the prices were he last time I was there.
Beer during the evenings is $84.36 per gallon in the city. No joke.
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Jul 9, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
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Dude, tell me what the Lower East Side is now. My guess: Hipsters pay exhorbitant prices to move into the same shitty tenaments my ancestors worked so hard to move out of.
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Jul 9, 2008 3:55 PM PDT
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Condo projects are creeping into the LES but it’s still pretty cheap there. Plus there are a lot of gov projects down there. You might be thinking about Chelsea and the Meat packing district on the Lower West Side. Yikes.
Personally I’d love to live on the LES b/c it’s so close to chinatown… so much cool shit there and good food is incredibly cheap.
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No, Im pretty sure my ancestors lived in the lower east side. Thanks for the update!
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Jul 9, 2008 4:15 PM PDT
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Sorry, I wasn’t talking about your ancestors. I was saying that extreme yuppification was invading the Lower West Side.
But your ancestors do make me say ‘yikes’ though.
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Jul 9, 2008 4:34 PM PDT
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Damn. So, anti-semitic! Why you gotta hate?
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Jul 9, 2008 4:52 PM PDT
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Very funny. How is the LES a jewish enclave? hmmmm.. is it?
All my Jewish friends are either in Brooklyn or the Upper West Side.
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Yeah, now they are. But Im talking about the 1920s.
UNLESS YOU ARE BLOGGING FROM THE PAST!
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That would violate causality, a definite no no.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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Jul 9, 2008 5:05 PM PDT
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Yes, a causality violation. Very difficult to overcome those.
If only we had an evil twin here to show us the way!
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It’s not funny. If you could violate causality would it be to
a) post a blog entry on CGB
b) whisper in Longshore’s ear that U$C is a much better fit
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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Jul 9, 2008 5:17 PM PDT
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“It’s not funny.”
You know I am a human being damn it! At least refer to me as a “he”!
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by TwistNHook on
Jul 9, 2008 5:24 PM PDT
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That does it. I’m going back in time and sending you to Stanford.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on
Jul 9, 2008 5:38 PM PDT
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How come it’s always Twist that’s involved in these long-ass thread digressions?
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He’s very litigious.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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twist is incapable of shutting up. he’s actually much worse in real life. a blog is the perfect outlet for him.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
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Jul 9, 2008 6:27 PM PDT
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Woah, this thing is so tiny now. Just like my penis.
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Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM PDT
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Ok, I just finished going back in time. Damn, I’m tired.
Your parallel self is a Stanford Electrical Engineering student which is what your mother secretly wanted you to be all along. You worked very hard all four years and you never got laid which is too bad since you have a schlong so big you walk funny. The girls at Menlo College and Palo Alto High School let you do their math homework. You never did drugs and you never went to the football games.
Are you happy now?
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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Jul 9, 2008 9:13 PM PDT
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Im never really happy
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Jul 9, 2008 9:22 PM PDT
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Awww
Maybe I was a bit harsh. I went back and had you realize that you weren’t happy at Stanford. You transferred to Cal after your Freshman year and switched majors to Interdisciplinary Studies. You tried out for Oski in your Junior year and one of the cheerleaders broke up with Mershawn after noticing a bulge in your pants that never seemed to go away.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
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Jul 9, 2008 9:31 PM PDT
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4.60 in San Jose :(
In other words, Go Bears!
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Does anybody remebember
in what section and in what rows the Cal allotment of tix was for the USC 2006 game? Tickets just went on sale for my group and I want to know if I should sit with Cal fans or just buy better seats. Any advice?
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Jul 9, 2008 4:45 PM PDT
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pretty sure it was sections 1, 2, 3 and 33. basically, the shittiest seats in the place. anything you buy from ‘SC will be better, though you’ll then have to sit next to ‘SC fans. you lose either way.
me, i just bought my ticket for the Cal section. my 9th LA trip in a row.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
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Jul 9, 2008 6:29 PM PDT
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You're just a better fan
this is only my second year going to LA.
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