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DBD 7.18.08 Baby's First Bear Dump

Ohhhh, look.  Look, he's saying his first words.  It's a bit jumbled, what is he saying?

Volllllll-ker.  Vol-kerrrr. 

Honey, I think you are reading too much Berkeley Daily Planet to him.  Let's...........calm down with all that.

 

Luckily, we don't have the same problem as Baby (we also are not in a corner).  So, let's take this down BDP style

Bam:

While the university lawyer and its chief spokesperson called the judge's comments at the hearing a victory for the school, Stephan Volker, an attorney for a group of plaintiffs which includes the California Oak Foundation and the late Berkeley City Councilmember Dona Spring, said part of the win was for his team.

“We did prevail on several issues in this case,” he said. “The key ruling was that the Alquist-Priolo Act does apply to the university,” he told reporters after the hearing.

Pow:

Volker said he is confident of eventual victory. “I have prosecuted over 100 appeals, and prevailed in about 85 percent of them,” he said.

Wait, wasn't it like won every one yesterday?  His victory number is decreasing by the minute!

Zinc!:

Zachary Running Wolf, the Native American who launched the treesit on Big Game Day 2006 less just weeks after the UC Board of Regents approved the gym project and related developments, said that the struggle isn’t over, even if the legal battle is lost.

“We’ll keep fighting,” he said.

I smell Civil War Reenactment!  Ok, who wants to be Union and who wants to be Confederacy? 

Actually, wouldn't it be awesome if someday we had Tree-Sit reenactments?  Except for the side who had to throw their own feces.  Rough for them.  Rough. 

Berkeley's side to the story:

BERKELEY - Alameda County Superior Court Judge Barbara Miller heard oral arguments Thursday on UC Berkeley's request that she modify her injunction and allow construction of the Student-Athlete High Performance Center to begin.

After Miller stated for the record that she saw the university as "the primary prevailing party" in the litigation, campus attorney Charles Olson noted that every additional day of delay is costing the university $47,000 in increased construction costs and security expenses. "It is time for this case to come to an end," Olson said. "It is time to end the grave harm that is being done to the campus."

In response, attorneys for the petitioners argued that any decision on the injunction should not impede their ability to appeal, should they choose to pursue that course of action.

At the hearing's close, the judge said she would make her decision "very quickly," but gave no indication about when, exactly, the ruling will be ready.

Carolyn Jones has...........shocking..........become reasonable.  Damn you, Carolyn Jones!  Allow me to hate you and your cartoonishly bad journalism!  VOLKER ME:

Stephan Volker, attorney for the oak tree advocates, said the university's request for a $1.5 million bond from the plaintiffs is shameful.

"My clients do not have the means to afford that," he said. "Requiring that kind of bond is essentially slamming shut the courthouse doors to us."

Next time there is a hearing, we should all dress up like crazy fans of jurists and chant "SLAM THAT DOOR!"  "SLAM THAT DOOR!"  We can each stand in a row and paint a letter on our chest to write out words like "P-O-S-N-E-R" or "S-C-A-L-I-A." 

That will in no way backfire.

A bunch of Cal news that isn't new to us from Rusty at the Chron.

An Okanes article on that book we keep hearing about "Talent Is Not Enough."  If we kick butt this season, I'm buying that book.  This is like the 5th time I've heard about it.

CBS article on the hearing.  Reasonable.  I didn't know this tidbit:

Berkeley City Council scheduled executive sessions for Friday and Tuesday nights so that it can decide on an appeal if necessary.

I thought it was only Tuesday.  Hmmm.  Reduced to this argument, the plaintiffs are:

"The fact is when you cut these trees down, they're not growing back in our lifetimes," said Michael B. Lozeau, attorney for the Panoramic Hill Association, a neighborhood group opposing the new sports center. "If the trees are cut, they're gone."

I have to go burp this DBD.  Just wanted to bring your attention to this: Spazzy McGee has a letter he wrote to the Berkeley City Council.  It cannot hurt to make our voices heard (esp. and I mean ESP. if you are constituents, please make that clear).  Of course, please show the type of class and dignity we've come to expect not only from Jeff Tedford and Sandy Barbour, but any representative of Cal.

GO BEARS!

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Here’s the info on tonight’s special meeting of the Berkeley City Council.

To: mayor@ci.berkeley.ca.us, lmaio@ci.berkeley.ca.us, dmoore@ci.berkeley.ca.us, manderson@ci.berkeley.ca.us, lcapitelli@ci.berkeley.ca.us, olds@ci.berkeley.ca.us, kworthington@ci.berkeley.ca.us, gwozniak@ci.berkeley.ca.us

I sketched out an email response this morning to go to the City Council-people. I might also submit this to BDP and see if they print it. Here’s what I wrote:


I love Berkeley. Berkeley has been good to my family and I’d like to think I’ve been good to it. My dad moved there in the 60s. My mom in the 70s. I was born at Alta Bates, as were my brother and sister. My brother, sister, and I have all lived in Berkeley for years at different times. My wife lived in Berkeley. As did her mother and father decades back.

So, you can imagine my frustration at seeing Berkeley’s current condition. Roads, falling apart. The downtown, crumbling. Businesses, fleeing. Education system, in shambles. These are tough times for us all, but I trust the Berkeley City Council to work on behalf of all Berkleyans to solve the problems that they all face.

It is important to focus city resources on important problems and not focus them on lesser important problems. I speak, in specific, about the Cal gymnasium project. And look, I don’t know too much about the Court case. It is very confusing; I’m no lawyer. My vague understanding is that, going in, all the Council could accomplish was a delay. Just a delay.

What I do know strongly is that the Council could help return Berkeley to one of the finest cities in our country. We could be the leaders in the modern environmental movement. Berkeley’s potential is unlimited. But when Berkeley is facing all these massive problems, the Council needs to efficiently distribute its resources to biggest problems first. Is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax payer money for a judge to tell us that Cal had it right 98% of the time the most efficient means of spending Berkeley’s limited tax-payer resources? I might not know a lot about the court case, but I know the answer to that question is a resounding no.

And is spending hundreds of thousands more to lose at another Court level, the most prudent distribution of city resources? I again feel strongly the answer is no. This is not about saving 40 lovely trees. This is not about protecting a sacred grove. This is about ensuring limited city resources focus on Berkeley’s biggest problems first. I call on the City Council to use its tax-payer money to work to put stores back on Shattuck street, to fix potholes all across Berkeley, to improve facilities at all levels of the Berkeley public school system.

Council, I call on you to end this lawsuit by not joining in any appeal. Please, focus city resources where they matter most. We all love Berkeley, let’s get to fixing it. Let’s make Berkeley the utopia, we all know it can be. Let’s return Berkeley to its prior glory!

It is a bit long, but I sort of originally conceived of it as a BDP reader commentary. We’ll see if they accept it. I threw in some tree-sitter buzz words to make it more likely. I think this is a reasonable response from people who might not be anti-tree-sitter. Feel free to use it in your emails, if you so desire.

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 18, 2008 8:09 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Nice, love the "gymnasium" "lovely trees" "sacred grove."

Although I think your letter would be improved if you said stuff along the lines of “Berkeley needs to stop focusing on these 40 wonderful trees and focus on things much more pertinent to the city of Berkeley and worldly important: the war in Iraq, impeaching president HilterBush, and Tibet.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Jul 18, 2008 11:28 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Great letter Twist

Man, I wanted to write one too but I can’t outdo this one.

by danzig on Jul 18, 2008 12:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree

Except for the part about your not being a lawyer. You disingenuous bastard.

I'm still wondering why the Nets didn't draft Leon Powe.

by yellow fever on Jul 18, 2008 1:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

But I’m a terrible lawyer. So, it should be fine. I’m basically not a lawyer.

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 18, 2008 3:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

maybe you should change it to, “now, I’m no BIG CITY lawyer.”

and sign it, “Screw Flanders.”

by CalBandGreat on Jul 18, 2008 3:34 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

10th Best!

Some dude ranks Tedford the 10th best head coach in the country:

You know that guy who always calls the money play in Madden? The play you can never stop no matter what you do, so you end up with a controller shaped hole in your wall? Tedford is the real life version of him.

His offenses have always produced, and his QBs have always gone on to absolutely shitty careers in the NFL. Why? Because they are products of a system, the same way Tech QBs are. Nobody realizes it because Cal and Oregon had strong running games under Tedford, and they almost never ran any shotgun stuff. It doesn’t look like other stat padding offenses, so it must not be.

The offense is very similar to Gary Barnett’s, using powerful single back sets to run the ball, and passing off of that action. He’ll often put both WRs on the same side of a two TE formation, meaning he can both block 7 man fronts and easily flood any zone coverage you run with an 8 man front. Why more teams don’t do this I don’t know, but it’s an relatively easy offense for a QB to run, to the point where Akili Smith is going in the top 3 in the draft.

Applying that formula to a moribund Cal program and bringing them to national prominence earns Tedford a mention with the elite.

Urban Meyer is 1st. Other PAC-10 coaches on the list are Dennis Erickson at 8 and What’s His Face at 2.

by joffle on Jul 18, 2008 9:53 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

it's a pretty decent list

RichRod and especially Mangino haven’t quite done enough to merit being so high (at least not yet), but the rest of those guys definitely belong in a top 10 list. No Steve Spurrier, though?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jul 18, 2008 10:15 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think I'd give RichRod credit there

But I don’t think Mangino should be up there.

I'm still wondering why the Nets didn't draft Leon Powe.

by yellow fever on Jul 18, 2008 10:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Fun 'n gun

I think of Spurrier as the Pete Carroll of the SEC, a guy who knows and excels at the college game. Definitely deserves to be top 5.

by sec119 on Jul 18, 2008 11:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Vegas Hilton Over/Under

here, with the over/under for our Bears at 8, giving +105 to the over and -125 to the under.

For the less seedy among us, that means that if you’re taking the over, you’d bet 100 to win 105, and if you’re taking the under, you have to bet 125 to win 100, so it seems as if they’re expecting our team to be below 8 wins. I think it’ll be close, but that’s why they set it at 8.

I'm still wondering why the Nets didn't draft Leon Powe.

by yellow fever on Jul 18, 2008 10:25 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Also, Week 1 Lines Posted

credit Wizard of Odds:

California -7 over Michigan State

Go Bears.

I'm still wondering why the Nets didn't draft Leon Powe.

by yellow fever on Jul 18, 2008 10:28 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

wait, we haven’t announced a starting QB yet right? I guess 7 point fave is a safe week 1 spread.

by Itchy25 on Jul 18, 2008 11:41 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

7 points at home is an extremely safe bet.
Oh, Longshore might start, my bad.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 18, 2008 12:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If longshore was the starter at the home opener

... then it might turn into a 10pt spread. His performance during home openers have been nothing short of brilliant… and the computers will reflect that.

- In 06 when he opened vs Minn.. he completed 22/31 for 300yrd and 4 TDs with a rating of 194.8!! – In 07 when he opened vs Tenn.. he completed 19/28 for 241yrds and 2TDs with a rating of 163.7. – No INTs in either game.

Now when it comes to away games and in the 4th quarter… hmmm.

by danzig on Jul 18, 2008 1:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

uh-oh here we go again with the nate bashing...

j/k, danzig. lol. bff?

But your comment reminds me of something that occurred to me last night while eating pizza with friends. There’s a lot of back and forth here over who’s a better QB, who gives us the best opportunity to win and who sucks in what quarter and where do they suck.

Anyhoo, in light of a recent scouts vs. CGBs debate over who’s Longshore sympathizers and who ain’t, I wanted to come to this convoluted point: my friends and acquaintances who don’t post here or on scout are way, way harsher in their criticism against the ‘shoreman. Like whoa, like whoa.

Not sure what my point was now that I’m here. Maybe that the internet isn’t as harsh as I thought. You should go talk to drunk guys eating pizza.

by CalBandGreat on Jul 18, 2008 1:54 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Calband, I like you didn’t want to start another Nate debate, at least not yet.

I just wanted to point out that computers play a much larger role in odds making than humans do. Therefore, if Longshore were to be named the starter, the spread would widen based on his record in home openers.

And true… the scout boards accusing us of being the biggest Nate bashers is nonsense.

by danzig on Jul 18, 2008 2:25 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dammit! I wanted to see another Nate debate. :(!

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by TwistNHook on Jul 18, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Also, the Scout boards don’t accuse us of being Nate bashers, but, in fact, Nate homers.

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 18, 2008 2:57 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ya, my post was all over the place. There was a point in there somewhere.

I’m mostly trying to start the “shoreman” nickname going.

by CalBandGreat on Jul 18, 2008 3:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nasty Nate Forever!

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by CBKWit on Jul 18, 2008 4:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The drunk guys eating pizza lines of reasoning is something I’m quite familiar with. Its equivalent with communicating with Laker ‘fans’, the point is usually missed entirely. Capped quite nicely in the immortal words of my ex-girlfriend, “Why do you like all the terrible teams?”

by 408 on Jul 18, 2008 5:51 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Even match?

I think in the NFL that, in a game between two evenly matched teams, the line is -3 to the home team. What’s the equivalent in college football?

by sec119 on Jul 18, 2008 1:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it's about the same

home team gives a field goal, more or less.

jeff sagarin statistically computes home field advantage each year as part of his rankings. it usually comes out to be about 3 points and change.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jul 18, 2008 2:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh, Oh, I get it

He’s changed his number so he can go Incog-NATE-o.

Hiyooo!

by CalBandGreat on Jul 18, 2008 5:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

lol, that was a good one, im going to steal that line during the first game of the season when i’ll pretend not to understand about the number change, and then once its explained im busting your line out….. this is going to be even better than the jerkstore calling…

by Itchy25 on Jul 18, 2008 7:21 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If Nate starts, I’ll boo and I won’t be alone.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 2:55 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Shouldn’t you at least wait to see how Longshore does this year. Its a new year a fresh start.

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by TwistNHook on Jul 19, 2008 4:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What if reports from fall camp are that Longshore performed far better than Riley? Will that change anything for you? Or have you already made up your mind?

I <3 Longshore

by HydroTech on Jul 19, 2008 6:11 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If Longshore does start, then I hope you won’t be booing Longshore but the coaches instead. Let’s remember that Longshore is definitely trying his best. But since booing at games can often be mis-interpreted as booing the players, perhaps a better course of action would be to email your displeasure with Tedford’s (and Cignetti’s decision) to start Longshore to Tedford himself at “football at uclink dot berkeley dot edu.”

I <3 Longshore

by HydroTech on Jul 19, 2008 6:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I am Nate
I am Nate
Nate I am

That Nate-I-am!
That Nate-I-am!
I do not like
that Nate-I-am!

Do you like
interceptions and sacks?

I do not like them,
Nate-I-am.
I do not like
interceptions and sacks.

Would you like them
here or there?

I would not like them
here or there.
I would not like them
anywhere.
I do not like
interceptions and sacks.
I do not like them,
Nate-I-am.

Would you like them
on the road?
Would you like them
by the load?

I do not like them
on the road.
I do not like them
by the load
I do not like them
here or there.
I do not like them
anywhere.
I do not like interceptions and sacks.
I do not like them, Nate-I-am.

Would you watch them
from a seat?
Would you rather they
went incomplete?

Not from a seat.
Not incomplete.
Not on the road.
Not by the load.
I would not like them here or there.
I would not like them anywhere.
I would not like interceptions and sacks.
I do not like them, Nate-I-am.

Would you? Could you?
On TV?
Watch them! Watch them!
Hey, watch me!

I would not,
could not,
on TV.

You may like them.
You will see.
You may like them
in a tree!

Muthafucka, did you say tree?

Oh dear. Is this where the O Line goes on strike like in Heaven Can Wait?

Yup, permanently.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 7:02 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I’m not convinced that this depth chart is accurate. It lists the co-offensive coordinator as Jim Michalczik and he’s been replaced by Cignetti. I think this is old.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 7:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

This depth chart is pretty meaningless since fall camp hasn’t even started. I wouldn’t get worried that Longshore is listed as #1.

I <3 Longshore

by HydroTech on Jul 19, 2008 8:35 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I’M FREAKING OUT! What if Longshore doesn’t start the fall camp as the Incumbent starter

He might not start the season as the starter, he might not start the games. This is not good! This is not good at all.

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by TwistNHook on Jul 19, 2008 9:56 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And you were holding it together so well.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 10:13 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 19, 2008 10:15 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 10:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Olsonist, if I may take a few moments from FREAKING OUT to help you here:

Right click on the photo. Save Image Location. Come here. Hit reply. Click on green photo icon button. Paste link. Hit preview to make sure it worked. Then, Go Bears.

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 20, 2008 8:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oh, I forgot the last step. If it still doesn’t work, blame Longshore.

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by TwistNHook on Jul 20, 2008 8:00 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Right click? Only Republicans and hardcore Longshore apologists use PCs.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 20, 2008 8:38 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Damn, that’s a totally sweet photo of Nate Longshore you posted there, Olsonist! Got any more?

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 20, 2008 9:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Contra Costa times says that the depth chart was just released. For defense, it has a 4-4 defense because they haven’t made up their minds on 4-3 or 3-4.

Contrasting CWBKit’s list:

Boateng is 2cd in depth with Jeremy Ross and Michael Calvin starting. Only 2 WR positions.
Jahvid Best is starting
Mike Mohamed over Eddie Young at OLB
Marcus Ezeff over Jesse Brooks at Rover

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 19, 2008 10:03 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I listed 12 starters on offense (3 WRs, 2RBs, 1QB, 1TE, 5OL) because Cal uses 3 WRs often. Calvin, Ross, and Boateng are clearly the top 3; when Cal only uses 2WRs, it very well could be Calvin and Ross on the field.

I didn’t list Best as the starter because he was injured all spring. I think it will be much more of a “tailback by committee” this year than in years past.

MM over Eddie Young seems likely

I’m glad they have Ezeff starting – I really like him.

My post was not an effort to predict the opening day depth chart (nor the fall camp depth chart, for that matter). I just wanted to provide a glimpse, a snapshot in time, of who was running with the first team and who with the second at the end of spring ball.

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by CBKWit on Jul 21, 2008 8:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

After the Oregon game, my game buddy from San Rafael uses Ezeff’s tackle as his profile picture. He’ll be fun to watch this year.

I’ve said this before, I’m happy Best is even playing. Hip injuries are the worst. That he’s starting is dessert.

Your post was like a homework assignment for me, getting me ready for the season.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 21, 2008 9:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If this is homework

then you get an A! Why? No idea.

Ezeff’s hit at Oregon was incredible, but I was very high on him before that, starting probably with the CSU game (actually, now that I think of it, I remember going “Ezeff is playing really well” at the Tennessee game). I felt he was our most consistent performer in the secondary for the first half of the season, before he got hurt and never really recovered. Syd came on very strong in the second half, so I’m pretty excited to see the two of them in action this year.

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by CBKWit on Jul 21, 2008 10:36 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I had forgotten/never realized this in the first place, but when the As are working to build their Fremont ballpark, they have to do a lot of the same stuff Cal is doing.

That link is from the original moves to build in Fremont.

On November 8, 2007 the A’s submitted an application for a Community Specific Plan. This application allows the City to begin the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) process, including the preparation of an Environmental Impact Report (EIR) on the proposed project. During the EIR review, there will be opportunities for public hearings and comment to the Planning Commission and City Council.

The cost of preparing the EIR is paid by the A’s, with the City of Fremont serving as the lead agency in its preparation. Starting the CEQA process does not guarantee that the project will be approved by the City.

I am not sure exactly where they are in the process now. Either way, I really hope Berkeley decides to sue the As now and maybe the tree-sitters can move down to Fremont to stop the As. And if they are no trees on the property there, let’s go plant some quick!

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by TwistNHook on Jul 19, 2008 7:27 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

man, playing at Wazzu for our second game of the season is going to be interesting… any idea how they are ‘sposed to be this year?

by Itchy25 on Jul 20, 2008 12:03 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Washington State is pegged to come in last so this should be an easy win.
Oh, Longshore might start, my bad.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 20, 2008 2:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If you were to meet Nate Longshore on the street, would you just start booing him, then?

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 20, 2008 2:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well, I didn’t pay $35 for a ticket to the street. And I didn’t get an engineering degree from the University of Street. So there’s a small possibility that I’d just let him pass. But if it was 9am on a Sunday morning and he knocked on my door with a copy of the Book of Mormon in hand, I’d probably be needing a good lawyer later in the day.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 20, 2008 2:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So, what you are saying, is that you failed out of U of Street? That’s an embarassing admission! It’s easier to graduate from than ASU!

"Save The Oaks: Overthrow Capitalism" said Dumpster Muffin sanguinely

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by TwistNHook on Jul 20, 2008 2:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

haha, im glad im new enough to Cal sports to not have a firm opinion either way on who starts. although i did start longshore in NCAA ‘09 ;) (he threw 4 td’s and 2 picks against MSU)

by Itchy25 on Jul 20, 2008 2:09 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And one of those picks was in the 4th quarter, no?

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Jul 20, 2008 2:17 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

actually it was...

but we were up by 24 points when it happened so