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Summary of UC's Filing on Friday: Take That Hippies!

(Ed Note:  OakTown works his magick again.  I don't think we have to drown him in a lake to know he's a magician here.  But it couldn't hurt to double check, I guess.  Quick!   To Lake Merritt!

If you want to read the UC filings yourself, here's a link with more information.  And if you want to read the discussion of the plaintiff's proposed order, here is the link.

Of course, besides Oaktown's analysis, we welcome any and all analyses of anything relating to the court case.  Ragnarok and danzig were already disussing it and we look forward to further discussion.

Also, Ragnarok attended the non-event yesterday at the Courtroom.  It was non-eventful.  So, lot's of stuff going down on a lovely Friday.  Czech it out.)

So, the UC filed its papers on Friday June 27 and I have to say, the filing kicks ass.  It is very long and very in depth and requires a good chunk of time to sift through, but here is a summary.

 

 

Star-divide

UC did not just file a Proposed Order but filed the following:

1.         Motion to Modify the Preliminary Injunction (to be heard July 22, 2008, with a motion for a short briefing schedule on this to be heard on July 1, 2008). 

This Motion to Modify essentially argues that the reasons for the existence of the Prelim Injunction have disappeared and that now UC is suffering hardship from any continued ban on building the SAHPC.  UC argues three reasons for dissolution of the Injunction: (1) material changes in the facts of the case; (2) major shift in the hardships being suffered by the parties; and (3) justice requires it. 

            Material changes:  UC argues that Petitioner’s initially alleged all kinds of violations of law, but now that the Judge has heard the case and found those allegations to be without merit, there is no reason for the Injunction.  SAHPC is in compliance with CEQA and with AP, and there is no reason for enjoining the building of SAHPC at this time.  Also, the 3 alterations (grade beam, staircase, floor slabs) have been eliminated and will not be performed (in separate signed letters and declarations, the architects and engineers say they are not necessary to comply with law or safety issues and the Chancellor has approved these changes).  Here’s a cool sentence from the Motion: “This Court has now ruled that neither CEQA nor any other law prohibits the University from removing trees to make room for the SAHPC.”  In addition, the plan for increased events has been eliminated, so there is no need for further compliance with CEQA on this issue.

            Shift in Hardships:  Delay has cost UC $11 million in increased construction costs and $770,000 per month going forward.  Security and police for the hippies = $729,000 to date and $22,000 per day.  350 students and 75 full time staff continue in unsafe buildings, plus 250 children in summer camps, all at risk in unsafe CMS buildings.  Violent conduct of protesters is a public safety issue.  Cal’s reputation built up over 125 years is at stake and ability to recruit top notch student athletes is at stake.  “The trees on the SAHPC are not protected – and cannot be “saved” – by any law.”  GREAT STUFF.  The trees are “on the SAHPC.”

            Ends of Justice: Petitioners argued for their day in court when asking for the injunction and they got it.  Now they lost, so there’s no reason to keep the injunction.

2.         Response to June 18 Order . . .

            The University basically says: “OK we don’t agree with your June 18 order, but we’re going to comply with it.  We have decided to eliminate the three “alterations” to the CMS (grade beam, staircase, floor slab) because these aren’t necessary to the project or to comply with any law.  We’re also going to eliminate the increased events at CMS.  These are the only two issues we lost on and now those two issues are moot.”  There are a lot of docs related to this including declarations from the structural engineers, the lead architect, the CEQA compliance officer and the Chancellor, but they all explain the whys and hows related to eliminating these parts of the project to fully comply with the Judge’s order.

3.         UC’s Proposed Judgment

            This is really great lawyering here as the UC attorneys give the Judge 3 alternatives.  To simplify/summarize these alternatives, they are (1) what the Plaintiff’s are asking for is denied except insofar as it relates to the increased events and related EIR analysis, and the 3 alterations discussed above (in which case SAHPC proceeds); (2) Alternative A: the UC’s Response and plans to eliminate the increased events and 3 alterations are in full compliance with the Judge’s decision, so there is no need to issue a “Writ of Mandate” directing that the University do anything (SAHPC proceeds) and the because UC won on 90% of its claims, it should be awarded 90% of its attorneys fees from all 3 Plaintiffs; (3) Alternative B: Court issues Writ of Mandate (Order) directing that UC comply with law relating to the 3 alterations (AP) and the increased events (CEQA) AND based on UC’s response of eliminating 3 alterations and the increased events, the Court finds there has been compliance with her order and the case is closed and Court  orders Plaintiffs to pay attorney fees (and SAHPC proceeds).

4.         Objections to Petitioners’ Proposed Order

            Basically explains why the Petitioners Proposed order is lame and does not take into account that they lost on virtually all the issues.

In conclusion, UC is trying to get as quick a resolution as possible and is making an extremely strong case in favor of breaking ground on the SAHPC soon.  It wishes to leave no doubt as to what the Judge is ordering and is essentially forcing the Judge (in a very persuasive way) to decide once and for all that the SAHPC must proceed.  In comparing the Petitioner's Proposed Order to UC's, the difference in credibility and strength of argument is astounding.  With that, I say "Good Night."

Poll
After reading reviews of both parties' filings, how do you feel about the project moving forward?
  • HAND ME THAT CHAINSAW, I'M COMING FOR YOU TREES!
  • The process is moving forward quickly enough, so let's just all calm down and go prepare our chainsaws
  • This judge is going to dilly, then dally, then dilly some more, and then Tedford will leave us! Then, I'm definitely going to use my chainsaw, but not on trees
  • HAND ME THAT CHAINSAW, I'M COMING FOR YOU PEOPLE!

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my optimism has returned

after reading these documents, i really can’t see how a judge couldn’t rule in UC’s favor. the petitioners’ arguments look weak and baseless next to these strong and thorough arguments. well done, lawyer people. well done.

i was a little worried about the elimination of the grade beam, but after having read pp. 63-65 on the third (longest) document, i’m a lot more reassured. a letter from one of the principal engineers on the project states that the grade beam was never inserted for safety reasons, but merely to prevent possible cosmetic damage (cracking) of the west face of Memorial Stadium, due to “nominal horizontal outward displacement of the shoring” (the wall might move a little). while it would be nice if UC were allowed to put the beam in there, it certainly makes me feel better that no one’s safety is being compromised by this decision.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 28, 2008 11:40 AM PDT reply reply   0 recs

I'll say what everyone is thinking ...

We won… we really won.


“Victory!!!” (ignore the zeg heil and the illegal shift)

I know as a Cal fan it feels icky to be overconfident about anything… it almost feels wrong. You keep looking for reasons for why we didn’t really win. But as someone who’s read the ruling and all the recent filings, I’m frickn beaming right now. What did we win?

TRUE GOAL: What we really wanted was the SAHPC to be built so we can keep Tedford and recruit the best kids. Let me make this clear… NOTHING CAN STOP THAT NOW.

The only legal claim the Hills had remaining were the three additions eg “grade beam”. However, those additions are not needed on the SAHPC… and in last night’s filing we decided to leave those for a later phase or scrap it altogether. You can’t file an injunction on something that is NO LONGER IN THE PLANS.

Hills Association Goal:
Many of you think that the Hills Association’s main goal was to just delay the project even though they knew they would fail. OR that their goal was to delay the project until Tedford left. No way.

The Hills Association were in this to win… If you read the ruling you’ll know that they swung for the fences and argued every little tiny thing under the law… (this is why I think the appeal gets tossed based on merit).

They wasted tons of time, energy and social capital and they’ve squandered the goodwill of the judge. Plus if you read last night’s documents, you’ll know that even they are admitting they’ve got nothing but the “grade beam” argument left… guess what?... we just tossed the grade beam.

by danzig on Jun 28, 2008 12:37 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

hill people

the PHA did get UC to admit there was no reason that upgrading CMS necessarily led to a doubling of the number of capacity events, and so UC deleted those plans (for now). that’s not to say they won’t try and do something in the future, but for now, they seem to be the only winners amongst the plaintiffs, however partial their victory may be.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 28, 2008 12:59 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ever wonder why events would double?

Sure, they did get that.

however….what would those extra “capacity” events be… not football, that’s safe. 60K+ fans at a rugby game, field hockey, another bay area football team? Where did this increase in events come from? Where in the documents did we describe what these events specifically would be. Where would the parking for such a huge non-student event come from? Were any of them scheduled or negotiated? Kinda surprising right?

I always saw this as a preemptive legal tactic to cover our ass just in case the project got sued and the CMS and SAHPC were deemed to be a single building… and that AP applied. We needed to preemptively argue to increase the value of the CMS to the highest value possible… from a cashflow perspective, we needed increase the number of potential “capacity” events included in the calculation.

IMHO the bone the judge threw them was actually a shill.

by danzig on Jun 28, 2008 1:18 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yeah, the doubled events seemed an odd claim to make, especially given how well-supported all of their other claims were. i can certainly see it being used as a bargaining chip, but it seems odd to throw it in the EIR and give the PHA and others grounds on which to base a lawsuit. that just doesn’t make sense to me.

we shall see. once the SAHPC gets going, i wonder how much of a fight some of the parties will put up over valuating the stadium. obviously the oaks people are out, while the PHA will probably keep fighting, but if the COB doesn’t back them up, i can certainly see them being more amenable to a settlement, and i think events, including noise and such, are places where the university is willing to give a bit.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 28, 2008 3:44 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Is it possible that UC added those provisions as diversions, knowing full well that they’d probably lose in court? This way UC can appear to be compromising by removing those provisions, which were irrelevant anyway.

Also, once I actually did see a guy swimming in Lake Merritt. He jumped off a boat, trying to impress his friends. Nothing about cholera is impressive.

by sec119 on Jun 28, 2008 5:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don’t know about you, but I’ve always been impressed by violent diarrhea.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 28, 2008 5:43 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

that explains that two girls one cup birthday cake you requested.

by Itchy25 on Jun 28, 2008 7:23 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Damn. There goes the 2girls1cup mental block I had created. And it was going so well with that mental block. Oh well. Back to blocking What What In The Butt from my mind!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 29, 2008 7:22 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Can I just say how nervous your post made me. For no reason other than “Optimism” was a currency rarely found in my Cal birthing smack dab in the middle of the Holmoecaust. You all make it so logical and reasonable, but man all I can think is “We are tempting the fates.”

Sometimes I wish I was one of those entitled fans like USC or UCLA. sigh

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by TwistNHook on Jun 29, 2008 8:07 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

As thorough as the documents are, and as much as I know that rationally, the case is over, I can’t help but feel the judge will find some way to screw us over.

Only when the injunction is lifted will the legal boner from reading the slam dunk arguments in the UC’s filings may finally be justified.

by PolarBear on Jun 28, 2008 2:18 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

yeah, i understand that feeling. bears fans everywhere are conditioned to expect the worst.

personally, having read through much of judge miller’s judgment, however, i’m much more confident than you. she is slow and deliberative, yes, but she seems fair and thorough, and i really can’t see how UC doesn’t get their way in fairly short order.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 28, 2008 3:46 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

so if your hippies have some time on their hands and want to save some trees...

did you know brazil is about to build a series of hydroelectric dams that are going to engulf huge swaths of some of the most sensitive ecological areas the amazon?

two dams valued at about $5.3 billion apiece are going up on the Madeira River and another $11 billion dam on the Xingu River is being planned for next year.

one of the most active groups working to stop these projects is international rivers network who turn out to be based – wait for it – right there in berkeley, california. they are desperate for folks to help out in the effort to just increase awareness and they actually know their stuff.

so if after this bizarre little incident is over and all these hippies are still desperate to save some trees that need saving, feel free to tell them about this and urge them to help out. seriously.

by kleph on Jun 28, 2008 4:08 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

See, thats the problem. They tried to make it sound like we were anti-tree or something like that. I think most people, most Berkeleyans, are pro-tree, pro-environment, pro-gorgeous surroundings. We are anti-idiot, though.

I feel like I read somewhere that the leader of the Sierra club came out against the tree-sit, because it gave quote unquote tree huggers a bad name and image. I can understand where he is coming from!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 28, 2008 5:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

CALLING OUT ENVIRONMENTALISTS vs the TREE SITTERS

Some of my friends call me an “eco-mentalist”. For someone that makes a living by defending the big-bad-corporations, it seems wrong for me to support the cutting down of this “historical oak grove”.

My point is: These tree sitters don’t give a damn about the environment; they don’t. Don’t you hippies dare call your group environmentalist because it makes us look bad and we’re embarrassed by you.

I openly challenge anyone from the Save the Oaks movement or the tree-sitters to openly debate me here on CGB on the merits of the protest, merits of the case or the importance of the grove compared to other ecological issues around the world. If you have the balls, I dare you to open your ecological augments to scrutiny. I know you all monitor this blog, so I ask you to stand up for these trees now. Your arguments must have merit right? Then lets see how they stack up, you got the guts?

Bottom line: We all know these hippies don’t care about the health of the trees and in private the Sierra club, Agape Foundation and the COF (California Oaks Foundation) hate that the hippies represent them in public.

Save the Oaks – let me ask you something… from an environmentalist to another environmentalist… if this was such an noble cause to save about 40 ancient oak trees then why:

1) Why did Greenpeace reject your request to sponsor your protest? Agape has many connections at the highest levels of Greenpeace, why couldn’t you get a sponsorship or even some kind of supportive letter? Why?

2) Why aren’t the Friends of the Urban Forest supporting your movement? The most powerful and well funded tree organization in SF… why won’t they support your cause? Don’t act like you don’t know who they are.

3) What about Green Connect or Nature in the City??... the most active of all the active tree groups in the bay area… why don’t they support you? I’m still waiting to see if the head of Green Connect makes a speech at the grove.

4) What about the Berkeley Ecology Center? If you’re a eco-activist in Berkeley you know who they are. Why won’t they support you? If you don’t know who they are, you really aren’t an environmentalist.

5) What about WildCare? You know who they are…if this really is a historical ecological ecosystem, then why doesn’t WildCare actually, care? There must be rare trees, plants or animals on the site right? Isn’t this “grove” so big that it houses it’s own ecosystem? Don’t the trees preserve genetic diversity? Where is WidCare? Are they sellouts?

TRUTH: You’re hoping that everyone listening to you has never walked through the trees because everyone who has knows that its a sparse group of trees that are nothing more than an old landscaping project. BAHA calls the entire site “historic” because the stadium’s architecture is historic, not the trees. Just ask them if they would still say it was a historic site if the stadium wasn’t there.

You tree-sitters don’t care about the trees. The grandmas that feed you perhaps do, but they realize there are bigger fish to fry. If you really have nothing to do, join any of the real activist groups I’ve mentioned above and truly do something for our environment. You and I know that this protest does nothing for the cause except to embarrass us. Hitting cops and getting arrested for alcohol and drugs?

Caring about the environment is about making real changes and to stop real abuse to our environment. What you do undermines our cause and humanities future.

by danzig on Jun 28, 2008 5:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I thought caring about the environment was about taking it out to a nice seafood dinner and then not calling it back afterwards.

Man, do I ever feel not like an environmentalist after your post here! I didn’t know ANY of that stuff!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 28, 2008 5:39 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

flowers would be nice tho...

you should call her man, you were so cute together.

_
I tried not to make this into an environment issue here because this is our sports sanctuary… Plus, we all know this really isn’t about the trees. It never was, but it attracted media so they ran with it.

Being an environmentalist means you just care about yourself and your family. Recognizing that abuse of our surroundings does not help the future of your kids. Sustainability is the key word here.

Activism is admirable, but only if it helps the environment or another good cause. I also respect the activism that denies global warming because it’s, at least, for a cause that they believe in. Cycles on such a huge time scale are hard to prove.

The tree sitters are expressing their anger for other things that the UC has done while hijacking the environmentalist banner. I think Freud called it transference, but with a broader definition. I call it BS. I hope more environmentalists will come out and take a stand that this sort of activism does not represent us.

Only 4 of the trees pre-date the stadium and are truly “old”. The Friends of the Urban Forrest would want to protect those 4 trees, but giving up your credibility, respectability and dignity in exchange for 4 trees on University property? Ugh. Let’s focus on real issues. PLEASE.

by danzig on Jun 28, 2008 6:20 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

while i think everyone pretty much agrees sports and activism shouldn’t be mixed judiciously or with regularity, there are some very good examples out there of how the two can meet in harmony.

just because you love trees doesn’t mean you hate football and just because you love football there’s no reason to not want to hug a tree. but, as you point out, these bozos seem much more interested in attracting attention to themselves than any particular cause they profess to champion.

by kleph on Jun 29, 2008 4:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah, we were cute, but she wanted too much of a commitment. I just can’t make promises for what I’m going to be doing for the next 4 billion years.

I gotta sow my wild oats!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 29, 2008 8:10 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sorry Twist, but the 2girls1cup girls are already taken. You can’t sow your wild oats there, I’d stick with Mother Nature, she’s always taken care of you and you know she puts out.

by Maharg on Jun 30, 2008 9:03 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Anybody got Dumpster Muffin’s number?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 30, 2008 10:30 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don’t have her number, but I can tell you where to find her. I hear she likes to kick it over by I-House, in some treehouse or something. Maybe if you bring her flowers or something, she might come down and… oh god, i feel sick.

by Maharg on Jun 30, 2008 1:45 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nice, good stuff, really good stuff!!

by OskiMonsta on Jun 28, 2008 10:48 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Why do I continue to read Carolyn Jones? It’s like a train wreck. You fear to watch, but cannot turn away.

Really, I have to give it to her. I have to give her much respect. As each step seems to go more and more in Cal’s favour, she has to work harder and harder to come up with more of her classic brand of “shmuckolism.” Here’s her latest classic. It’s a comedy of errors. Also, comedy.

Here’s her headline:


UC compromises on key stadium issues


UC Berkeley made key concessions Friday in its long-running standoff with the city, tree-sitting protesters and neighbors of Memorial Stadium that the university hopes will clear the way for its plans to build an athletic training center next to the stadium.

Here’s another interesting quote:

Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates said the City Council will meet next week to discuss the case, but any decisions are premature until the judge issues her final ruling.

“Our concern is and always has been safety,” he said. “I just hope that by removing the grade beam they’re not going to be causing problems for the western wall of the stadium.”

If he is so concerned about safety, maybe he should call the dogs off so that Cal can work to retrofit the stadium. Or maybe he can just talk the talk and fail to walk the walk.

Here’s an interesting angle:

Most of the plaintiffs want the landmark stadium razed and a new stadium built elsewhere.

The university would like to preserve the stadium, which was named by Sports Illustrated as the best place in the United States to watch a college football game and is on the National Register of Historic Places.

They want a historic place destroyed? How odd.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 28, 2008 6:43 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but does anyone actually have proof of Sports Illustrated saying that? I tried to find references to it and all I found were other articles by Carolyn Jones.

Check out this one from 18 months ago.

Sports Illustrated editors agreed, naming Memorial Stadium the most beautiful college sports venue in the country. Designed by architect John Galen Howard, it was added to the National Register of Historic Places two months ago.

She’s so self-involved she uses herself as her first source! I thought that might be more narcissistic than TwistNHook, but, alas, he won that contest a long time ago.

Also, in looking at the Wikipedia page for the stadium, I saw that CGB shows up as a link in the “Gold Out” section…hmmm.

by thenick on Jun 29, 2008 3:42 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

She couldn’t our narcissism me on the most narcissitic day of her life with an electrified narcissism machine.

Oh, the Simpsons, is there anything you aren’t relevant for?????

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by TwistNHook on Jun 29, 2008 8:11 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

she's not making it up

i can’t find it on the internet, but i have seen the article somewhere before. there might be a copy of it in the Hall of Fame room in the stadium. not sure about that, though.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 29, 2008 9:18 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

id rather rent and watch ‘the bucket list’ than read this ladies “news articles”
and yes, im fully aware of the gravity of this statement.

by Itchy25 on Jun 29, 2008 12:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I think Carolyn Jones might be half right (which is 50% more than usual)

Maybe SI has made a more emphatic proclamation in more recent decades-Mike Silver, after all, long wrote for them-but the statement I personally remember comes from the Joe Kapp era. California Memorial Stadium was identified as being “the best place to watch bad college football”, while Lincoln, Nebraska’s own Memorial Stadium was identified as “the worst place to watch good college football”. I think this was part of the College Football preview issue in 1984 or 1985.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Jun 29, 2008 4:04 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

When I was an entering freshman in 1997, I recall reading in a 1997 SI article

that Cal was the SECOND most scenic/best place to watch a game – behind Notre Dame.

Obviously, whatever factors they used to come up with that ranking didn’t take into consideration the intensity of the crowd. I’ve never been to ANY sporting event with a more intense crowd than at Neyland Stadium. Round 1 of last years GSW Hoopers v. the Mavs is a very close second.

by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 30, 2008 11:20 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I’ve always wondered what the playoff games v. the Mavs was like. I went to the game against the Jazz (Baron Dunk game!), which was sick like fuck. But people said the Mavs were even crazier. I, honestly, cannot imagine that.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 30, 2008 11:24 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Mavs v. Dubs was insane. Think of it this way...the crowd was on its feet for

all BUT maybe 3 possessions. At least in my section it was. It was f’n LOUD.

Dubs v. Jazz: it started to get kinda trendy, the whole warriors in the playoffs/we believe thing, and people who had not been there previously would ask that you sit down because they “paid good money for their seats.” No shit sherlock, but where had you been one series ago, last year and all years prior to that? I hate BANDWAGONS and the “celebrities” should stay in LA LA land.

by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 30, 2008 1:00 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i wanna say the article she's referencing is from the early 1990's

but i am unsure on that point.

and, of course, when you take the crowd into consideration, Memorial Stadium is nowhere near the top.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 30, 2008 11:43 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i believe you

i just think we’re referencing two separate articles

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 30, 2008 1:22 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I remember ESPN had a list of the top 10 places to play at and Cal’s Memorial was at #10 because the past year and a half we were undefeated there and #2. This was a few days before the Oregon State game heh.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jun 30, 2008 2:31 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

heh, those were good times

with the bye week, those were possibly two of the greatest weeks of my cal fan existence. certainly top 5.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jun 30, 2008 2:50 PM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I know I’m desperately biased, but I honestly found UC’s arguments on lifting the injunction powerful and convincing.

I also like the way they pitched their arguments around the “modifications”. Their preferred ruling is that the judge just accept that these modifications will no longer take place, hence no AP or valuation issues. But they also add just in case that they should be able to break ground:

In other words, at most, the Court should modify the Preliminary Injunction to prevent the Three Alterations until and unless the Value Determination has been made.

So even if the judge wants a value determination for the three alterations, we can start the project while the issue is being settled.

Well done lawyers, we’re in really good shape now!!!

by OskiMonsta on Jun 28, 2008 10:59 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

Question

What is the timeline now??

Hearing July 1 and ruling July 22 or hearing July 22 and ruling even later??

by OskiMonsta on Jun 28, 2008 11:03 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

There's a short hearing on July 1 to argue for a shortened

briefing schedule on the Motion to Modify Prelim Injunction. The idea is to have written arguments by both parties submitted to the court before July 22 so that on July 22 the Judge can issue an order. So at July 1 hearing they will most likely just set a briefing schedule. Generally, on motion hearings (July 22), the Judge can do one of three things: (1) Have made up her mind by the date, issue a “tentative” ruling and give the “tentative loser” one last shot at changing her mind AND then issue her order; (2) take the matter “under submission” which means the Judge wants to think about it more (and does not give a date for issuance of ruling); or (3) ask for more briefing on an unclear issue, in which case there could be an additional hearing date at which the Order will be announced or the Order will be issued without further hearing at some unspecified time.

UC attorneys are making it clear they want a decision on July 22. I really hope that happens but as everyone knows, this Judge likes to dilly and dally so we may have to wait longer . . .

by oaktownmario on Jun 30, 2008 9:27 AM PDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Linked from The Daily Clog… woo!

by thenick on Jun 29, 2008 10:20 PM PDT reply reply   0 recs

i just join u

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Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

THE ONE WHO STARTED "AR".
THE ONE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

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The Start Calling Anthony Randolph "AR" Movement

His nickname will be popular trust me>

OUR Owner is CHEAP................................. WHY?!WHY?!

Hire Paul Allen (there u go we're ready to go)

THE ONE WHO STARTED "AR".
THE ONE WHO STARTED " JIMI HENDRIX"

#435

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