Summary of Judge's Ruling: or "The Myth of the Hippie Victory"
[Ed's Note: First, Danzig provided great analysis, here here here here here here here here here here here here here and here. Now, OakTownMario, who has previously done some great analysis on this case for us weighs in.]
[Ed's Note 2: I also added a poll to gauge the feeling of the people.]
So after uploading 129 images and printing them individually (take that trees!), I read through the entire decision, which at times was very boooooring. (It was only after my arduous print job, that I much later discovered that someone put the whole decision into a PDF file. Oh well).
So the following is a summary and my impressions of the Judge’s decision. As you can tell by the title, I have no flippin’ idea how the media claims this was a defeat for the school. Alternate title: VICTORY!!!

A couple of notes: I refer to “Petitioners” as any of the Plaintiffs in the case, even though sometimes the Judge distinguishes who is making the claim involved. I use mostly the term “UC” when discussing the Regents of UC, who are the true Respondents/Defendants. I sometimes note numbers in the text. This refers to the page numbers of the Judge’s decision.
Introduction (3-4)
In this intro the Judge basically gives a brief summary of her major rulings. The Judge makes the following rulings: (1) UC’s Environmental Impact Report (EIR) certification complies with the Alquist Priolo Fault and Zoning Act (AP) and Cal. Environmental Quality Act (CEQA); (2) UC is subject to the AP. [AP is designed to prohibit the location of structures for human occupancy across the trace of active faults; (3) SAHPC does not violate the AP as (a) there is no construction on active fault; (b) overall the SHAPC is not an addition or alteration to Cal. Memorial Stadium (CMS). (4) However, certain elements of the SHAPC are alterations to CMS so UC must determine the value of these alterations and of the existing CMS structure; (5) UC complied with CEQA procedural and substantive requirements for the Integrated Projects (IP) (term used for all the proposed construction); (6) However, record does not support UC findings related to earthquake related risks and the noise and traffic impacts that will be caused by the additions at CMS. [More discussion of all of these rulings follows].
Summary of Projects (4-7)
The Integrated Projects or IP consist of CMS Seismic Improvements which include the SAHPC and improvements to the CMS, Law and Business School improvements, and parking facilities, improvements to some houses, and other relatively minor improvements. The Stadium Project is divided into 3 phases and for our purposes can be defined as (1) the SAHPC; (2) press box and west side stadium improvements, including lighting; (3) seating expansion on east side of CMS.
Procedural History of the Case (7 – 9)
The Judge simply discusses all the prior proceedings in the case and how we get to where we are. Of note is that the Administrative Record (AR) in the case was 40,055 pages long! The AR are all the docs that UC relied on in saying “We want to build this now!”
The AP (9)
The Judge finds that the AP applies to UC. 9 – 17. This was no surprise given that she already made this ruling in her December Order. [I also previously posted a discussion on this previous decision on the former CalBlogs.] The Judge goes into a detailed and boring analysis for several pages of why AP applies to UC. Basically the court rejects UC argument that AP only applies to State Mining Board and to “cities and counties” as nonsensical, employing common rules of determining what a statute means and considering the legislative history of the AC. Of import is the Judge’s finding that UC in “most respects,” properly determined the SAHPC complied with AP. The Judge also rejects Plaintiffs claims that UC violated AP by failing to undertake public hearing process on geological reports. She found this was unnecessary under the AP.
Compliance With AP (17)
Judge rules that in most respects UC properly determined that the SAHPC complies with AP. “The proposed SAHPC is not on an active fault or branch of a fault, and is not an addition or overall alteration to CMS.” However, certain elements of SAHPC are alterations to existing CMS within meaning of AP. She then goes into a discussion of what the AP is: it prohibits building on active faults when humans will occupy the building. The AP does not apply to any structure in existence prior to May 4, 1975, except when altering or adding to that structure AND the value of the alteration or addition exceeds 50% of the value of the existing structure. (19). The Judge therefore reads the AP to limit the UC in three ways: (1) it can’t build across an active fault; (2) UC may not build within 50 feet of active fault unless no building is placed over an active branch of fault; (3) UC may not construct addition or alteration if cost of the alteration/addition exceeds 50% of the value of existing structure.
So how does the Judge evaluate whether there has been compliance with the AP. She uses a common legal term called the “substantial evidence” standard. Basically the question is whether there is substantial evidence in the 40,000 page record which supports UC decision. In deciding, the Judge must look at the record in the light most favorable to UC and must essentially resolve all doubts in favor of UC.
Her findings: (1) substantial evidence supports UC finding that SAHPC will not lie across an active fault or branch; (2) substantial evidence supports that the SAHPC is not an addition to the CMS. She notes the UC project engineer always envisioned SAHPC as separate structure and plans have proceeded accordingly. 29. She rejects Petitioners claims that the SAHPC is an addition based on Petitioner’s claims that it would be adjacent to the CMS, it would perform complementary functions, and would appear to the lay observer as one structure. 30 She says such an interpretation of addition makes no sense and would extend AP’s reach beyond original intent. She also notes that UC architect testified it would be a separate building. 31 (3) SAHPC is not an alteration but a distinct structure BUT some parts of the proposed project are an alteration. She says the following are alterations subject to AP: (a) a grade beam to be installed along the CMS west wall; (2) alterations to staircases; (3) “floor slab penetrations” for purpose of installing SAHPC telecommunication system. 34. The Judge says that in order for UC to comply with AP, UC must value alterations and value of CMS. So the question becomes: is a beam, a stairwell , and floor slab more than 50% of value of CMS? [Me: No. CMS is priceless! What is half of priceless?]. Judge notes that at the time of decision to approve SAHPC, UC had not valued CMS or decided on methodology for value. Court instructs UC not to use “replacement cost” methodology, but says UC can use any other methodology to value the CMS. [Replacement cost methodology is basically saying, “well it would cost 500 million to build a new stadium, so CMS is worth $500 million”]. 35. [This is one of the only “losses” for UC in the whole decision].
The Judge also rejects Petitioners’ argument that UC must calculate the cost of all 3 phases of Stadium Project now. Judge says UC can do this before construction begins, but does not have to do this before approval of all phases.
CEQA 36
The Judge reviews compliance with CEQA based on a “prejudicial abuse of discretion” meaning that UC violates CEQA if it did not proceed in manner required by law, or its decision is not supported by substantial evidence. Basically a fair argument cannot be made to support UC’s decision.
Delegation 37
The Petitioners claim UC violated CEQA by delegating to the Committee on Grounds and Building (CGB) the responsibility to review and certify the final EIR, instead of the full board of regents doing this. Judge says delegation is fine because the regents are empowered to delegate their work to any special committee or subcommittee 38 [Lots of boring delegation arguments that I’ll spare you from at pages 38 – 49].
Premature Approval, (not to be confused with premature ejaculation)
Petitioners contend UC violated CEQA by approving budget for SAHPC before the final certification of the EIR. 49 The Court finds this is not against law and UC has right to determine when it wants to comply with CEQA compliance. The Judge also notes that pursuant to UC guidelines, approving a budget does not commit UC to spend the $ because final approval of expenditure requires CEQA compliance
Failing To Recirculate EIR 51
Petitioners claim UC needed to recirculate the EIR to the public when additional info was obtained on environmental impacts. Judge says UC decision not to recirculate is supported by substantial evidence and does not violate CEQA (recirculation necessary when totally new information added to EIR). The Judge found there was essentially further clarifications of EIR info and no “new” info and that there was no intent in the law to promote endless rounds of recirculation. Subsequent info considered by the regents was clarification. Blah, blah, blah . . .
Omitted Impacts 59
Petitioner claims UC omitted discussion of impacts resulting from removal of trees. 59 Court finds UC adequately analyzed impacts in 37 pages of analysis of impacts. Court also finds that UC adopted feasible mitigation measures to lessen impact of removal of trees ; in the 3 – 1 replacement ratio. 61 The Court further found that there was no sensitive biological resources requiring further analysis of impacts.
Archaeology 65
Petitioners argue that the EIR inadequately addressed IP impacts on archaeological resources and specifically failed to address the 1923 discovery of Native American burial site in vicinity of CMS. Court finds no error in the UC’s EIR discussion. 65 The draft EIR found that there was a likelihood of prehistoric sites in the area. The EIR also noted that if a burial site is found, UC would stop work and preserve archaeology, and bring in archaeologist before proceeding with the project. UC considered all this and have established mitigation measures. No violation of CEQA in failing to discuss a particular burial site or specific archaeological resources in the EIR.
Project Description Is Legally Inadequate 68
Petitioners claim the description of the IP is inadequate. The Court says it’s ok to treat all seven projects as one Integrated Project and there is no need to make separate project descriptions. EIR description of project is sufficiently detailed and includes the necessary items such as location, boundaries, objectives, characteristics, intended uses. Court rejects all of Petitioner’s arguments that EIR is not sufficiently detailed in this respect.
Project Description Is Stable 75
Petitioners essentially claim IP description is not stable or consistent. Court finds project description has remained constant throughout environmental review process and that the EIR adequately describes the geographic setting. Further, the Judge finds that there is no need to provide geological study at this stage of the planning process.76
Impact Analysis (Earthquakes) 79
Petitioners claim UC performed an inadequate analysis of geology and seismic impacts. Court says Petitioners are wrong and points out that there is 25 page chapter discussing this, including the mitigation of delaying scheduling of additional events at CMS until CMS seismic improvements are completed. The Judge also finds that the EIR provides full disclosure of geological and seismic impacts including risk of death in case of earthquake. 83 Court rejects different claims of doom day earthquake scenarios suggested by Petitioners (CMS falling into the SAHPC or into the parking structure in the event of an earthquake). Court says UC considered all the earthquake scenarios and address the risks.
Emergency Access 86
Petitioners argue UC has ignored emergency access impacts (access for emergency vehicles and people during emergencies such as earthquakes). Courts says EIR did consider and analyze this: that draft EIR contains 17 page analysis, plus 7 additional pages in the final EIR. Substantial evidence supports UC analysis and determinations regard emergency access.
Objectives And Alternatives
Petitioners say project objectives violate CEQA because they combine 7 projects into one and that EIR alternatives analysis is inadequate because the alternatives selected are flawed and analysis of the alternatives is flawed. Court says EIR contains adequate project objectives and that EIR identifies alternatives and appropriately analyzes these alternatives. 5 alternatives considered by UC (1) no new projects; (2) projects with no new parking; (3) reduced size; (4) dispersed facilities throughout Berkeley; (5) dispersed facilities throughout Albany. Because the UC considered alternatives, there was no need to analyze more or different alternatives. [More long boring discussion on this . . . ]
Findings By UC 113
Petitioner’s claim UC did not adopt findings in the EIR that are supported by substantial evidence in the record. They raise the issue of findings related to removal of trees, impacts to cultural resources (removal of 2 houses), effects of CMS permanent lighting, effects of renovations on the history of CMS and the wooded area. The Court rejects these claims and rules that UC did make adequate findings on these issues.
In its findings UC states that doubling the # of capacity events at CMS will cause significant environmental effects that are unavoidable. The Judge rules that this finding is not supported by the record because UC has not explained why maintaining the existing # of events is not feasible (as opposed to doubling them once the project is complete). Because UC hasn’t done this it can’t say why increased traffic, noise and earthquake risk are unavoidable.
My Conclusions:
The Judge ruled in favor of UC in all material respects except the following: the three alterations subject to AP: (a) a grade beam to be installed along the CMS west wall; (2) alterations to staircases; (3) “floor slab penetrations” for purpose of installing SAHPC telecommunication system. 34. The Judge says that in order for UC to comply with AP, UC must value alterations and value of CMS. Judge also tells UC that it must explain why it has to double the events at the new CMS once the project is complete. This seems relatively easy and would seem to require some language in revised EIR to the effect that with the improved Seismic CMS, UC will be able to double events and these events can’t take place anywhere else. Accordingly, there will be increased traffic, noise, and earthquake risk.
The Judge has retained jurisdiction for purpose of monitoring compliance with the order so to me this means that once UC does what the Judge ordered, everything will be clear for chainsaws and bulldozers. One frustrating part of her order is that she says nothing about the Injunction. However, this should be sorted out in that she ordered Petitioners to prepare an order that complies with her ruling. Petitioners will prepare an order that will be biased. UC will object and insert language about the injunction being lifted. Once the Judge approves the Order taking into account both sides, that should clear it up. But it is a bit uncertain as of now. Also, doesn’t this make you really hate American law. It’s like that dude in Amistad who was so upset because no order was final and just kept getting appealed (no doubt a more important legal victory).
[Note: Please forgive for any typos or grammar as it is now 2:00 a.m. and I am tired. I hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions as I’ll be checking in from time to time.].
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Tedford and UC Lawyers
Tedford: Okay, the court has ruled. When are we going to knock the hippies out of the trees and start construction?
UC Lawyers: Well, we have to wait for the Petitioners to draft an order, then we have to review it and give our comments, then the judge has to review and approve the order, then we have to value the stadium, then we have to show that our improvemnts are less than 50% of that value, then we have to do another traffic and noise study, then . . . .
Tedford: You’re killing me here. Is that Michigan job still open?
Unless this gets resolved quickly, it sounds a lot like a victory for the numbnuts of the world.
by Fair Weather Cal Fan on Jun 19, 2008 7:40 AM PDT 0 recs
Great summary
Focusing on the two “losses,” my thoughts:
1. I can’t imagine we’ll have a hard time showing that the cost of the 3 additions to CMS will exceed 50% of the value of CMS. Even if we can’t use replacement cost, how much could a beam, staircases, and floor slab penetration cost? CMS was built in 1930 for $1.4MM. In today’s dollars, that’s about 18MM. Could those 3 items cost more than $18,000,000? Alternatively, the present value of the revenue CMS brings in from ticket sales HAS to be more than the cost of those 3 things. Am I wrong in thinking this issue will be no more than a slight nuisance for us?
2. Whether the environmental impact of 2x the # of events at CMS is “unavoidable” or not seems like a tougher issue. There’s a difference between wanting to 2x the # of events and it being unavoidable (regardless of whether we’re if we would be able to and whether they could be held anywhere else). In fact, it’s not clear to me that the renovations project is what would make us even able to host more events – CMS could clearly host more events than it does right now. I’m concerned that we’re going to stuggle on this point, and future use of the stadium for more events will be jeopardized.
The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die
by Calfan on Jun 19, 2008 8:41 AM PDT 0 recs
Legitimate concern Calfan
but we have to remember that the Standard of Review (is it legal or not based on substantial evidence in the record) defers greatly to the decision making body (UC) in the planning stages of a project. IMO UC can simply go back and state that with the improvements, including seismic improvements, lighting, seating improvements, etc. it is now safer to hold more events. I’m sure it can point to increased interest in use of CMS for a number of different type of events. Also, CMS will be cited as the only campus facility that can hold large capacity events. This in turn would mean recovering $$ spent on the stadium and making it more profitable for the UC to maintain. There’s really a number of ways UC can go and I’m sure they’ve got it pinned down as to which direction to go. In my view, UC doesn’t have to justify its reasons, but does have to explain them and explain what it is doing. I think that’s what the Judge’s ruling went to on this particular issue. The Judge basically said: Go back and say something about why events will double and why this is “unavoidable” (necessary), and then say that more traffic, noise, etc. is unavoidable.
by oaktownmario on
Jun 19, 2008 11:00 AM PDT
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Valuation is key
Point 1 is way more important, not necessarily for this round but for the future.
The valuation of CMS will determine how much money we can put into phase 2 and phase 3 renovations of CMS proper. While your argument is true – it will not affect this project, imagine what would happen if CMS really was valued at 18MM. We’d be able to renovate to the tune of 9MM dollars in phase 2 and 3.
Obviously we’ll get a higher valuation than that, but this is the key point – we have to argue valuation now, before SAHPC, and we gotta get a good valuation or method to determine valuation or else we’ll have a beautiful new training center sitting next to a permanently decrepit stadium.
by tmoran3020 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:18 AM PDT
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Agreed
I would definitely go with my priceless argument. Then we could spend half of “priceless” for the renovations. I think we need the MasterCard people to do the valuation.
by oaktownmario on
Jun 19, 2008 11:20 AM PDT
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Sorry didn’t see this post initially. You are spot on, my later post repeats the same issue.
by OskiMonsta on
Jun 19, 2008 11:30 AM PDT
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EYE ON BALL
Remember what this case was really about to begin with?... Hill people trying to stop the building of the SAHPC… and we won that case!! WE GET TO BUILD THE SAHPC. The rest are crumbs off the table.
The only thing we are arguing about now is changing the wording on the EIR and the valuation of the stadium.
Miller states on page 35 that replacement value (current value to build new one) shouldn’t be use because its too high, but rather just as a starting point, then you muct subtract all the depreciation that stadium has suffered thus far from whatever starting point. So what could that depreciation number be???
TRUTH: Total depreciation cannot exceed the total original book value of the property. You depreciate $1.4M over 10 or 1000 years and still the total depreciation cannot exceed $1.4M. Even if you use today’s dollars of $18M, the total depreciation cannot exceed $18M…that’s $575M – $18M = $557M… $557M*.5 = $278M.
Meaning, the beam and the other ‘additions’ cannot exceed $278M. Now from that starting point, put yourself in the Hipppie lawyer’s shoes and start to argue for lower starting numbers… how far can you bring it down from this LOGICAL starting point?
IF I WERE A HIPPIE
What I would argue if I were the tree people is to redefine “depreciation” somehow… to value the depreciation as “improvement costs”... meaning taking all the stuff that is in shambles today and value the fix-up costs in today’s dollars. eg… $575M – [cost to fix stadiums major problems].
What could THAT number be? Even if it were 40% of the value of the stadium itself, which is waaay generous it would be $230M in fix-up costs. That would still leave the starting value to be $345M, and if we take half of that we get $172.5M. Does the three ‘additions’ exceed $172.5M???
No, it does not.
We’ve overcome the major hurdles people, we just need to cruise to the finish. In a few days, everyone will start to realize this.
by danzig on
Jun 19, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
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Cal fans are born pessimistic. That’s the problem. We’ve been slapped seven ways from Sunday throughout this whole process. Even our highly scientific poll has the “We kinda won, but Im nervous” winning big over “We kinda won and we can deal with these little things.”
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 3:57 PM PDT
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haaahaa
yes it was a scientific poll, i will concede that.
From a nit-pick perspective, there were about 285 separate ‘claims’ that the Hills were making in the case… 98% of them went in our favor…. still don’t feel better?... okay…
The sole reason for this case was to attach AP to the $140M SAHPC… so that the 50% rule blocks the SAHPC. Miller gave us what is legally called “separation” rather she ‘decoupled’ the SAHPC from the AP statues. Then threw the Hills some crumbs such as the beam etc… but she knows they’ll lose that argument and they won’t be able to blame her for it… brilliant actually on Miller’s part.
It might make you feel better if you could hear the conversations going on, not with the press, but with the plaintiff’s lawyers… trust me, they’re finger-pointing, whining or outright sobbing. Do you really think the Hill’s lawyers are optimistic at this point?
by danzig on
Jun 19, 2008 4:09 PM PDT
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I do kind of wish I could be a fly on the wall of the Plaintiffs lawyers once they read the Order for real and didnt just hear what the news said. That would be interesting. I wonder what they think of Volkers insanity.
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
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The issue is not the cost of the alterations
Clearly Cal can come up with a valuation of CMS that is much more than 2x the cost of the alterations. But the issue is that the next phase is the renovation of the stadium itself. Here AP clearly applies and Cal will have to add the SAHPC alterations to the main CMS renovation and demonstrate that this is less than half of CMS value. Again, since I expect that the alterations don’t cost much, no big deal. Except that the judge rules that Cal cannot base the CMS valuation on replacement cost, which was probably their preferred methodology providing the highest valuation and creating the most budget for renovations.
We’ll have to see how high they can get the valuation. If the judge does not accept a high valuation methodology, we may still be able to do the SAHPC but not the subsequent CMS renovation. (I’m sure Cal already has ballpark estimates on this.) If we cannot make CMS safe after building the SAHPC then there is no point and the whole project basically is dead.
Sorry to be a downer here folks, but this is far from a done deal…
by OskiMonsta on
Jun 19, 2008 11:29 AM PDT
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Would Cal not build the SAHPC (upgrading the facilities for 13 sports teams and making it tougher for Tedford to flee), if they are unable to do the later renovations regarding Memorial Stadium?
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 11:33 AM PDT
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Um ya, probably we’d do the SAHPC anyways, but in the grand scheme we’d have to rethink our dedication to the on-campus stadium at that point, so maybe having the center there wouldn’t make much sense.
I’m confident that the judge will allow a valuation sufficient to do earthquake retrofit – seismic safety is the point of the A-P law, so it’s a moot point probably. Whether we get enough valuation to make Memorial cooler than just spiffying up its current state is another question though.
by tmoran3020 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
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Oski
I think everyone here understands that valuation is key and I’m sure UC will hire (if they have not already) a firm that will give the greatest valuation possible and that firm will be able to support it with a factual record. That is all that really needs to be done. To put things in proper perspective though, the improvements to CMS depend on various factors not named Judge Miller. The Judge pointed out that Phase 2 and 3 of the project (retrofitting, press box, lighting, sound system, seating, and councourse improvements) are still in planning and that “whether and when these pases will be built is dependent on a number of factors” including (1) fundraising efforts and (2) the scope of the seismic retrofit and program improvements that can be developed without exceeding the 50% value. Page 5 – 6 of Decision. Remember that the law suits were in a sense premature in that they attacked UC at the planning stages. So IMO UC will improve CMS, but what those improvements are depend on a good valuation that can be supported by a record. That leaves a lot in control of UC and essentially puts UC in control of its destiny IMO.
by oaktownmario on
Jun 19, 2008 11:49 AM PDT
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Good analysis
Great job Oaktownmario.
FWIW, I have posted my detailed analysis over on my blog for those who are interested:
by kencraw on Jun 19, 2008 8:59 AM PDT 0 recs
Horrible analysis - didn't you read my article?
by Carolyn Jones on Jun 19, 2008 10:04 AM PDT 0 recs
I admit I lol’d. GTFO troll
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on
Jun 19, 2008 10:05 AM PDT
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Don't blame me....
Running wolf is so dreamy!!!
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
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Now, when is Dumpster Muffin going to show up?
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:10 AM PDT
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I'm planning on writing a expose on her in my upcoming story
about the people’s righteous movement against capitalism, football, and all things UC. Keep an eye out for it. I can guarantee it will be factually correct and not biased whatsoever!
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:23 AM PDT
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Spelling and grammar are not my strong-suits....
I had a rough day yesterday. You know? All that investigative journalism and NOT reading through the 129 ruling/order will really get a girl down.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:24 AM PDT
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That’s what I try to use to get out of chores around the house at the end of the day.
“Sorry, honey, I can’t take out the trash, 8 hours of NOT working today really wore me out.”
It rarely works. :(!
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
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Hey, it works for me....not only was I fortunate enough
to write for the daily cal, I then moved on to work for the highly esteemed SF Comical. Dont ya wish you had a job just like me? Dont ya wish you could shake your ass like me? Don’t ya?
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:30 AM PDT
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I actually don’t wish I could shake my ass like anybody else. I feel as if I shake my ass perfectly fine, thank you!
You should wish you could shake your ass like me!
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:32 AM PDT
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If you shake it like running wolf
then I do wish I could shake it just like you.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
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We should play the Carolyn Jones drinking game. Everytime you read one of her articles and she includes the following words or phrases, take a drink:
sacred
recently discovered Native American burial remains
UC Cal
racist capitalist system
overthrow
and, of course, the classic
Tedsuck
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:26 AM PDT
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Hey! Dont speak ill of UC Cal. Thats my favorite “incorrect” name for Cal. Its far better than Kal or Suckfuckingston. Well, at least it is better than Kal.
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
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the first thing i learned on my guided tour of campus is that we don’t go by UCB cuz some ‘other’ places use that. Do we ever go by THE University of California? like, THE ohio state?
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 10:54 AM PDT
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or napoleon dynamites bro...
the king of the bowstaff.
do the hippies have large talons?
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 10:25 AM PDT
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you rule oak.
what a brilliant breakdown. made it so even a numbnut like myself could understand.
by Itchy25 on Jun 19, 2008 10:24 AM PDT 0 recs
Anyone see the crap job the chron did this morning editing my
article to include some truth and factual accuracies? Gosh, it makes a girl just want to cry.
by Carolyn Jones on Jun 19, 2008 10:37 AM PDT 0 recs
awww
maybe you are just emotional due to the visit of an unwelcome monthly visitor!
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
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Yeah, it seems that the monthly visitor comes around EVERY time
I am assigned to write about the stadium project.
Here’s a random fact about me I bet you didnt know. I started hating UC Cal the day I received my rejection letter from Stanford.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:46 AM PDT
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Generally, I’d say that it is probably poor form to personally mock a media member instead of going after their message.
But her message has been so obviously biased and flawed for so long now, it’s tough to have any sympathy or empathy for her.
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:50 AM PDT
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Gentlemen, I'm just trying to lighten the mood in here after your DEVASTATING
loss to comrade running wolf and the rest of the tree people yesterday.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
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Believe me, Ms. Jones. We appreciate the gracious winner attitude you have so far displayed this morning. It’s just so hard for us to overcome the brooding depressing we have all fallen into. We could use more of your unique comedy stylings if we are to emerge forth into the light!
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 10:58 AM PDT
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is it possible that she’s as brutal to read as the LA Times Bill Plaschke?
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:01 AM PDT
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Maybe I'm missing something
but is that really Jones? If so I suggest she go read the Judge’s decision so she can see what it actually says.
by oaktownmario on
Jun 19, 2008 11:02 AM PDT
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I feel strongly that it is not the actual Carolyn Jones, but instead somebody joking around. Honestly, I was thinking of creating a Dumpster Muffin handle and doing posts under that name, too. But now, “Carolyn Jones” has beat me to the punch. sigh
Damn you, “Carolyn Jones”! Damn you! Why must you be funnier than me????
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 11:04 AM PDT
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Twist nailed it......
I beat him to the punch…...
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
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And now somebody is going to totally sign up as Dumpster Muffin and take that idea, too. Oh well, they’d probably be a better Dumpster Muffin than me. Although, lord knows I’m one hell of a Dumpster Muffin!
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 11:10 AM PDT
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Mario...
this is not Jones. I would no. It’s an attempt at sarcasm.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 11:05 AM PDT
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I respect your ability to stay in character with all these grammar and spelling mistakes. Quite the method actor, you.
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by TwistNHook on
Jun 19, 2008 11:11 AM PDT
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Hey I try....
much like my objectivity so apparent in my write ups on Running Wolf and the Gang.
by Carolyn Jones on
Jun 19, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
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but your name says that you are! people aren’t allowed to lie on the internet i thought!
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:14 AM PDT
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that's how Al Gore originally designed
but things have strayed far from his original vision. Oh, if only old people in Florida hadn’t mistakenly voted for Pat Buchannan!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Jun 19, 2008 11:40 AM PDT
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What Other News Sites Say
Oddly enough, Dumpster Muffin’s crying fit atop one of the trees yesterday afternoon - as if daddy were taking away her AmEx - did not manage to get her forcefully pulled from the oak. (What’s more, her non-baptismal name is currently our favorite among the tree squatters.)
A very slanted Daily Planet Article, accusing UC Police of nearly pushing them down the stadium stairs
As the reporter was leaving, he was shoved in the back by a university officer and would have fallen down the concrete stairs had not he been grabbed by Doug Buckwald, one of the long-time supporters of the tree-sit.
Contra Costa Times seems to be fairly impartial, though at least says this early on:
In a 129-page ruling that was issued after 6 p.m. Wednesday, Alameda County Superior Court Judge Barbara Miller ruled that UC Berkeley’s student athlete high performance center, with certain exceptions, is in compliance with environmental and earthquake zoning laws.
ABC News Short Article & Video Clip – much better than last night.
U.C. Berkeley police said there are now seven tree-sitters left and they’re all in one redwood tree because all of the other platforms have been taken away. The university has the right to remove the tree-sitters however they possibly can. But the university says they can’t do it safely – so they will remove their platforms and infrastructure to try and force the sitters out of the trees. The tree-sitters say they’re not going anywhere.
by thenick on Jun 19, 2008 11:39 AM PDT 0 recs
Seriously folks let’s the TF2 pyros in on it. In one fell swoop we can take out the hippies and the trees.
I’ll do the honors. I don’t have 45 hours as a pyro in that game for no reason
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
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realizes that he has no life
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:42 AM PDT
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yeah, i'm worried about the removal
after visiting the grove last night, i’m definitely unsure how UC intends to remove these people…starving them out, as politically terrible as that is, may be the only option.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Jun 19, 2008 11:48 AM PDT
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well you know its gonna have to be done uber-carefully. harming a single hippie hair surely would incur the wrath of the tree gods, or maybe Kahn.
by Itchy25 on
Jun 19, 2008 11:50 AM PDT
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