Court Ruling And Tree Sitting Open Thread
by TwistNHook on Jun 18, 2008 7:20 AM PDT
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PrintWell, first we went deep undercover on Saturday at hippie training. Then, on Tuesday, we had our man on the scene as the process of bringing the tree sitters down began. He'll back taking photos and collecting stories today. But there's a lot more going on than just taking down (potentially) the tree sitters and the trees. Let's use this as an Open Thread to discuss a)what's going on at the grove and b)the Judge's ruling, which comes out today.
And please, post any photos and stories from the grove from today or yesterday, people! Big day today, people! Historic times! GO BEARS!!!!
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let's just hope
we’re not treated like red-headed stepchildren.
by Moscow Doug on Jun 18, 2008 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's hope the decision comes down today
but don’t be surprised if its is delayed.
I’ll see if I can find the order where the judge set this deadline, but if it was self-imposed the judge can just as easily disregard it for a few days.
I checked on the court website earlier and saw that attorney for the California Oak Foundation filed a Letter with the Court yesterday, and UC Regent attorney Charles Olson filed a Letter today. Unfortunately the court website doesn’t upload these letters right away, so unless someone is near the court and can get a copy, we don’t know what the hell the letters are about (maybe they’re about the tree sitter removal?).
Unfortunately that link doesn't take you
to the Register of Actions. You’ll have to hit “Case Summary” then enter the following case number: RG 06301644 (Zeros, not Os) and then hit “Register of Actions.”
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
The letters have been posted now
One is requesting that regardless of the ruling, the injunction on the trees be maintained to allow time for the filing of appeals and whatnot. The other is strenuously, and I do mean strenuously, objecting to such a request.
Yeah
sounds like Plaintiffs are grasping at straws. The Plaintiff letter also requests calendaring dates for motions for new trial, reconsideration or the like, and establishing dates for hearing on these issues. Defendant’s letter basically says “Fuck off. You had enough time to argue all of this a long time ago. We object to this dickhead’s letter.”
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with both of these assessments. I tried to read CCP 1094.5, which the plaintiffs reference, but it was long and boring (kind of like having sex with me!), so I quit.
That said, my nolej of domain web is not the greatest. In the judgment section, is that where they post the judgments? I’ve only ever done Probate Actions in Alameda and never really dealt with the judgement section. Is that what I should be refreshing over and over and over again?
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DomainWeb
kind of sucks and needs to be upgraded.
That said, my understanding is that any time anything is filed (including a judgment), it will be registered on the “Register of Actions” so that is what I keep looking at (although sometimes a decision can appear on both the Register of Actions and Judgments). DomainWeb doesn’t let me “refresh” the Register of Actions. When I try to, it shoots me back to the page where you have to click on case summary, and then enter the case number all over again, etc.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I checked Rulings And CMCs, Judgement, and Register of Actions as of 11:50 AM and there is nothing there yet. Agreed the Domain Web kind of sucks, but whatever.
Given the obvious media attention, they might give it to the media first or something. But I’ll keep checking. This makes it easier than ever to make it look like I’m working!
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This makes it easier than ever to make it look like I’m working!
Haha! Now if you guys could make this website look like a Word document, I could look like I’m working all day too.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Save Oaks email this morning
June 18, 2008 at 1:34am
(by the way, do they get wifi in the trees? maybe i’ll work from “home” today!)
Subject: [save oaks] please come today to the grove… and update on what happened yesterday…Hey friends of the Oak Grove,
1) The Berkeley Grandmothers for the Oaks say, “Please come to the grove early morning today (Wednesday)!! Please arrive as early as possible… 6am or 7am if you can… and join in our vigil to keep watch on continued UCPD attacks on the tree-sitters. We will be there all day and night and we’re hosting a slumber party Wed night, so please bring a sleeping bag, help us hold the space and keep watch.”
2) What happened yesterday… UC Police conducted a massive raid on the grove. UC’s climbers attacked and arrested a tree-sitter, and cut down numerous support platforms and supply lines. Tree-sitters are concerned that UCPD might continue operations and attempt to remove more tree-sitters. More details on what happened at:
The oaks still stand strong, but only if you support them.
For the trees,
The Save the Oaks Campaign
My favorite quote from that email: “Tree-sitters are concerned that UCPD might continue operations and attempt to remove more tree-sitters.”
Wow, they sure are smart! How could they see that coming??
Some excerpts from the Save the Oaks frontpage:
After a morning that saw UC campus police and their tree climbers removing traverse lines and tree sitter supplies, the university called a press conference. As the press corps gathered at the north end of the stadium, UC Berkeley spokesperson Dan Mogulof recounted the morning’s activities. When asked about the fate of the tree sitters he said, “At this point, we don’t see a way to physically remove the people in the trees in a manner that minimizes the chances of anybody getting hurt.”However, less than an hour later, UC’s climbing team returned to the grove and began a second assault. This time their aim was the removal of the tree sitters. The extraction team moved in on one of the lone female sitters known as “Millipede” who hung suspended on a traverse line.
As they maneuvered a large basket crane into position, the extractors banged into her several times. Her screams could be heard all over the grove as more than a hundred supporters watched below. Millipede was wrestled onto the platform and lowered to the ground. Campus police immediately arrested her and took her away.
It is doubtful that any of those working with the UC police in the trees today were trained in tree extractions. Clearly, their actions were cause for concern. UC can only be thankful that no one was critically hurt.
Please come to the Oak Grove now. We need your support and to bear witness to UC police actions.
And
On the morning on June 17th as the raid began on there lofty protest, the tree-sitters issued a statement, here is an excerpt.“Without the community’s support, this tree sit could not have made it so far and now your love, rage and solidarity are needed more than ever, As The court date approaches, we remain steadfast and strong regardless of what the judge rules.
Who owns the trees, the air we breathe, the water we drink? Are these elements of life all for sale or do they belong to all of us?
Do whatever you can to save the Oak Grove, no matter what the ‘Court’ says. Come to the Grove! Bring your friends and help us stop any attempt to extract tree sitters and tear down our Trees!"
Love The Tree Sitters
Also, heres some Berkeley Daily Planet agitprop. Excerpt:
This Berkeley Daily Planet reporter was threatened with arrest after he questioned an officer’s order to leave the rim of the stadium, the only place where activities of the officers could be monitored.As the reporter was leaving, he was shoved in the back by a university officer and would have fallen down the concrete stairs had not he been grabbed by Doug Buckwald, one of the long-time supporters of the tree-sit.
Officer C. Chichester, Badge 36, told this reporter, who was carrying valuable camera gear, that if he were arrested, "who knows what would happen to your camera equipment when you’re in jail?"
The stadium rim was the only place from which a journalist could have a view of the events unfolding in the grove below. It was from the rim that the reporter saw one of the cranes brush a support line, from which a tree-sitter was suspended between two evergreens at least 50 feet apart.
Had the line snapped, the protester would have been hurled to the ground in a potentially fatal fall, and for that reason the reporter protested the forced move.
Photos from the BDP article:
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Ken Crawford linked to a video by BCitizen at YouTube. They appear to be sympathetic to the tree-sitters, but if you want to see some videos of the action from yesterday and at other times, here is the link. Its a lot of rambling from the Authority Challenging Leader from Saturday’s Special Activism Training. But hey, you can see them all for yourself there
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Another save oaks email
June 18th at 10:11am:
Subject: UC Police Begin New Assault of Tree-SitTree-Sitters request supporters come to grove! UC Police are stepping up their assault on Oak Grove Tree-Sit. More cops and a massive 8 story crane have just arrived at the grove.
Meanwhile the decision in the court case is due anytime in the next few hours.
Come to the grove, today is the day!
Never cease to amaze.
In the history of Cal and the City of Berkeley, this is the stupidest thing that’s ever happened. I just can’t understand why any of these “people” feel THIS is the cause they should be devoting their lives to. Throwing feces at someone? Who the hell raised them? Then again, I wonder if Zachary Running Wolf has a kid . . . I hope not.
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Day two
There were a lot more people out watching today, including more hippies. They even set up a table with food. Not a whole lot happened earlier this morning as the arborists were working, aside from some hippies trying to argue with spectators. But about an hour ago, the woman in the treetop nest(?) started screaming hysterically, and everyone kind of moved over there. The arborists were cutting some rope that was apparently really bad to cut, and the woman kept screaming about it, but then nothing happened. The treewoman was doing her best to fall off her perch, she was shaking it as much as she could. I saw a guy with a bo and long hair, I wonder if it’s the same guy you saw on Saturday? And I think the shitbombs all got used up yesterday, cause I didn’t see a lot of poo flinging today. I guess they planned for a battle, not a war.
My friend brought his camera, so hopefully I can post pictures later. There were a lot of cameramen there, and a helicopter overhead, so I’m sure there’ll be more pics in the media as well.
Well, if you see CBKWit’s post below, there are photos of the guy with the long bo who was there yesterday. Was it the same person you saw today? I’m going to make a assumption that, given the dearth of long bo wielding hippies in general, it is the same person.
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same bo, same hair color
different clothes, surprisingly.
Man these “hippies” put the real hippes to shame. Stop putting your fucking shitty cause in the same category as the great free speech movement.
In other words, Go Bears!
The thing that bugs me the most about it
is that if they want to save trees why don’t they go hang out in mass logging operations or in clearcut operations all over the world where McDonald’s is making space for cattle grazing? What are we talking about here, 43 or so planted trees? “The Man” is clearing out miles of forest as we speak and they’re hanging out in Berkeley? Just f’in stupid IMO.
Don’t tell me the food the hippies set up was from Mickey Ds . . .
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
it's not actually about the trees
it’s about getting people to pay attention to them. if you want attention, there’s no better place to be right now than Berkeley.
now, if there were some sort of media circus in the Amazon or wherever…
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
I get the attention part
but if they care so much about all the issues they say they care so much about, then why not actually take a stand somewhere where the number of trees being destroyed is really significant as opposed to symbolically significant? If they are organized enough, the media attention will follow.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
ya, i'm a greenie myself...
...but these hippies make me sick. there’s attention whoring morons associated with every cause, unfortunately. al sharpton, for example.
1. not washing your feet
2. being self righteous (OK, I got those two from Homer Simpson)
3. saying “right on” in a unsarcastic way
4. the respect of crazy people on Telegraph
5. not having to work for “the man” since rich people with hillside mansions will provide for you provided you live in a tree for a year.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Dumpster Muffin strikes back!
From the continually updating Chron story:
In one of several tense moments this morning, a basket with two workers was lowered by crane to the trunk of a tall tree on top of which a young blond woman was perched on a small wooden platform about 100 feet in the air.The woman, identified by sympathizers as Dumpster Muffin, screamed and violently shook the precarious perch. The crane backed off and woman raised her hand in the air in a sign of victory.
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This sooo reminds me of being in the band
Hurry up and wait.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
at this point, i’m expecting the ruling to come at about 4:30 today.
for whatever reason, judge miller seems determined to draw this out as long as possible.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
I'm really hoping it comes down today
but I won’t be surprised if we have to wait a few more days. Bummer!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
It's like the Berkeley version of the OJ verdict
One side will be sad and outraged, they other elated and celebrating another victory for football.
What is a victory?
My posts aren’t showing up. Any advice?
My question is, is there a result that doesn’t allow immediate construction that we could consider a win? I want to buy a plane ticket back to the states, buy a paintball gun and a chainsaw, go to work, then build my mom a new fence.
If my understanding is correct, Cal cannot really lose here, in the way that the plaintiffs wants. The worst Cal can do is be forced back to the drawing board to go through the process again. It would suck a lot and take more time, but I’m sure Sandy Barbour would soldier on with the project. My understanding is that they cannot stop it, merely delay it.
Moreover, unless the plaintiffs’ last ditch attempt (i.e. those letters as noted above) is successful, the injunction is dissolved and Cal can move forward with the plans. Breaking of ground for the project triggers some contract provisions in Tedford’s contract which makes it tougher for him to get out of the contract. So, I think even if we “lose” today, we still “win” because the injunction is dissolved. But god knows I’ve been wrong about stuff before.
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I don't even think Cal would have to go back to the drawing board even
It’s been a while since I’ve dealt with CEQA, but I’m pretty sure they’d just have to amend the current EIR and conduct a few more studies or info gathering.
Right, enviro-lawyer-types?
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That's my understanding also
especially because I recall reading that at the time UC was sued, their plans had not even been finalized. So even assuming worst case, UC could simply revise its plans (if in fact they are found to violate the Act). I just don’t see how a judge can rule against Cal on this matter and I think Plaintiffs know this – that’s why they filed the letter requesting continued injunction.
FWIW, Plaintiffs’ request for continued injunction if they lose may not be appropriate given that generally once the Judge issues a final decision, she is divested of further jurisdiction on the matter – although there always seem to be exceptions.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The ruling is whether or not the athletic center is ‘part of’ the stadium, meaning that it would be built on top of a fault line. If she thinks it is, the architect takes a couple of days to file a revision that makes the center completely separate (and much less useful), but it still gets built. Bottom line, no more trees.
by Morpheus7148 on Jun 18, 2008 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh.
Really? It’s all about Alquist Priolo? Sweet. Done deal then.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
good
cuz my mom really wants that new fence, even if it is smeared with hippie feces and/or blood
Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock........................................
My goodness, considering how long the court, (i.e. Judge Miller) had to consider this I would have hoped for a ruling by now. Then again maybe it is being delayed, because as the day drags on the hippies smoke more chronic and become more lazy and less angry. I don’t know, makes sense to me…
Maybe she'll release the ruling at 4:20
When the hippies are most passive :-p
You think the Judge and her aids are cramming right now trying to finish drafting the decision? Or flipping a coin?
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like to thank Judge Miller
for totally wrecking my day as I wait for this damn ruling. Of course, there’s also a chance she could make it worse, or not.
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I would also like to thank Judge Miller
And I think my boss echoes those sentiments. For ruining my productivity today, completely.
Maybe the hippies really are destroying capitalism
If we all stop working, the hippies win.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless the Judge has completely lost her mind and joined a hippie combine, I fail to see how she could possibly rule against the UC based on the legal merits of the case alone. The tree sitters and the city simply have very little going for them in regards to their legal arguments. What I would like to see is the State attempt to recoup some of our lost tax dollars, both from the city and the tree sitters. From what I understand some of the tree sitters are trust fund biatches, which would make their parents a nice target for lawsuits. I would definitely like to see all of their lives ruined, and eternal damnation would also be nice!
The comment from hippie in the SF Comical...
Hey Twist, I also found the comment of the hippies demanding that we negotiate with them infuriating. We have tried negotiating for I don’t know, 18 months? They don’t want negotiations, they want complete capitulation. The only negotiating they’re interested in is the UC declaring this project dead. They make me sick, and the newspapers who never ask follow up questions to their grotesquely egregious responses make me even more sick! I am glued to this site waiting for the ruling. I hope you guys are ready to post it as soon as it comes out…
exactly
negotiation implies that they would be willing to accept a compromise…which they clearly are not. ‘you give, we take’ is the only sort of give-and-take they’re interested in.
fortunately, the hippies have even less legal standing than the other plaintiffs. if it wasn’t for the City of Berkeley, the hippies would have been gone a year ago…
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Seth, I have been checking the Alameda County Court website all day, but haven’t found anything. As soon as any of us hear anything, we will post it here, I assure you.
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twist-
what sort of legal punishment might the tree people face? im very confused about why the hippies are able to get away with some of the crap they pull. Example- in one of the threads there is a photo showing a treesitter holding wirecutters. Nearby are two workers on a platform. The caption reads “A tree-sitting protester swings a wire cutter at workers ” To me that sounds like a pretty serious crime…
I am not a criminal lawyer, so I cannot speak to what the punishment is. I have read that the DA is not interested in taking any cases involving these protesters due to the politically charged nature.
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you could make just about any case political in nature
so im saying thats a pretty weak excuse not to prosecute.
Hey, don’t blame me! It’s all just rumor and innuendo at this point. Let’s get the tree-sitters out first before we get concerned with what happens to them afterwards. Frankly, I am not a vindictive person. Get them out safe and sound, let them run on to their next “action” and leave us to build out high performance center in peace.
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awww, im not blaming you..
im just saying if i got hit by a hippie turd id be upset.
or a wire cutter.
now hug me.
You don’t have to be hit by the wire cutter. I think the attempt is sufficient. I struggle to remember 1L criminal law, but I think assault is attempted battery. Or battery is attempted assault. Maybe my memory is way off, but I think the mere event of swinging towards the arborists/UCPD with the wire cutters in hand would be sufficient.
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well, throwing these hippies in jail can be seen - by those who want to see it that way - like their free speech was being suppressed. that it wasn’t is besides the point. the DA probably has no interest in the sort of political circus that such prosecutions might cause, and i can’t say i would blame him. the sooner these nuisances are gone the better.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
you are right
it would be more trouble than its worth, and considering the disgustingly enormous amount of $$$ already spent dealing with these people, a costly court battle is the last thing anyone needs.
There are a lot of minor violations involved here
trespassing, violation of court order, public nuisance, and I’m sure throwing crap must be among those. I would think the more serious violations are attacking a police officer and throwing crap/urine.
As Twist said, it really depends on the politics involved. I would think the DA wouldn’t charge anyone for trespass but if he doesn’t want to piss off the cops he will probably file charges against those that attacked officers. But again, it depends on politics. I doubt any of these stinky hippies will see any significant jail time.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
is it a crime...
...to shake an oak tree? i mean to really really shake it good. get it moving in every direction.
Tree biter is a Cal student?
Word from a thread on BearInsider is that the biter tree sitter is a Cal student or something.
Oak Tree interview...
It should be a crime to build an illegal structure on state property and defy a court order asking them to vacate. It should be a crime to threaten and incite violence, resulting in serious bodily harm, as the hippies have done. It should be a crime to merely be a hippie, as the hippies are hippies.
Oh and what happen to loving and respecting mother earth and everything else? Something tells me the trees do not appreciate having nails hammered into them and being molested by the hippies. In fact just the other day I interviewed one of the oak trees (see the hippies say the trees speak to them, well they also spoke to me) and they were all pretty much unanimous in saying that they would rather be chainsawed right now then go on after what they have had to endure for the past 18 months. Even if the judge rules against the UC most of the trees will die anyway, as they have been exposed to untold biological toxins emanating from the future corpse rotting bodies of the hippies.
“I wish they would just come and chainsaw us, after what we have been through none of us have the will to go on. The hippies have forever ruined us, raped us, desecrated us! We demand justice against the hippies for what they have done, but in the meantime please, PLEASE CUT US DOWN!”
Oak Grove Oak Treei believe those are all actual crimes
except for being a hippie…and that was pretty much a crime until 1975 anyway
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
I know, I was angrily joking...
So perhaps the Alameda County DA needs to be recalled, as he is blatantly derelict in his duties. This charade has gone on far too long! Let justice prevail, lest we slip into total and complete anarchy!
Register of Actions at Alameda County Court website is going SUPER slow. Could this mean they are uploading something to it???? I don’t know!!! So frustrating!
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The rest of the site is going a bit slow, but the Register of Actions will not load at all. Does anybody know if when they are uploading a scanned file to the Register of Actions that causes it to NOT load correctly? Am I just freaking out over nothing?
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I've had this type of problem with that site before
I think it’s just a technical issue.
The site really needs to be updated. Last year the clerk told me that they were going to update it soon. LIAR!!!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, now large swaths of it don’t seem to work. I tried logging out and back in again and now it is even worse. Ugh. Well, I’ll keep at it. If it’s nothing, it’s nothing. And if it’s something, I’ll tell you guys. Or you can easily check for yourself. Is it working for you Oaktown?
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It's freaking out on me too
even the Attorneys page isn’t working and that only has the inforfor the 2 main attorneys on the case.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Parts of it are starting to work a little bit. The judgment part, which says nothing, loads up fairly quickly. But Register of Actions and Rulings and CMC isnt working.
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Maybe you and I are fucking it up
because we keep clicking on it. It’s all our fault!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Page 1 loaded, now Im trying to get to Page 2!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on Page 2!
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This is btw the most insane thing ever. I feel like a total idiot and I hope my kids and grandkids never see this!
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http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2008/6/18/554144/court-ruling-and-tree-sitt#6829998
The info is there in that portion of the subthread.
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Idiot
You feel like an idiot for repeatedly updating or because the hippies are dirty people who are drains on society?
I'm doing the same thing
LOAD GODDAMNIT!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Still only shows the letters as the most recent filings
UGGGGGHHHH!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Our lives have devolved into this absurdist comment above. We truly have hit rock bottom.
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Woah Woah Woah
I thought the Olive Garden test kitchen was when I put Stouffers in my microwave.
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noone said the test kitchen was the only test kitchen. or that it wasn’t imaginary. or that it isn’t also known as a rubber factory.
I wonder how small these reply sub panes can get.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
we really need a ruling
or else something bad is gonna happen to you guys.
I can tell.
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
are we all going to sit here
doing nothing until Judge Miller announces that she pushed back the ruling deadline a month or two?
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I have some bad news. Longshore was the lawyer representing Cal in this case.
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Welcome to the party! I’ve been crying all day long!
WORST CHRISTMAS EVER!
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Have you ever actually been to an Olive Garden? I don’t think I’ve ever seen one in the Bay Area. I went to once in South Cack once, but that was it.
PS What do they say in Fight Club? It’s not until you’ve hit rock bottom that you can truly ever gain anything. We hit rock bottom, not GIVE US OUR ANYTHING!!
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i think it's
only after you’ve lost everything that you’re free to do anything
or
hitting rock bottom is not a weekend retreat
or
sticking feathers up one’s butt does not make you a chicken
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Does throwing your own shit make you a tree-sitter?
Because, if so, I might be considered a traitor around these parts. Sorry!
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We hit rock bottom 30 minutes ago and kept drilling! I think I see China!
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On a brighter note:
EDSBS and SMQ have ganged up on Bruins Nation, so, that will be fun.
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It was fun. BN is a bunch of fucking dumbasses. Losses to UDub but victory against SC?
In other words, Go Bears!
I know we are all frazzled with today’s non-ruling, but let’s try to stay civil here.
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rather than a request for civility, I’d just like to request that we all make better jokes. I know I started it, but like Gob would say… I immediately regret this decision.
I got a lot more where that came from
And, really, this is all we have right now, ALL WE HAVE!
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EDSBS has an Ewok representing the treesitters too
seconds story down
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i've been in an alameda county courtroom...
...objects are moving even slower than they appear. everyone is allowed a chance to repeat themselves many many many times. don’t be surprised to hear about a ruling in the morning at this late hour. the entire court room may have dozed off. i’ve seen it happen.
Yeah,
the Clerk has probably had it since this morning and the “computer guy” who nows how to post it on the web probably called in sick.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
If our employers saw how much wasted time we've spent today
they would probably go all hippie on us and throw shit and piss at us.
While we're waiting...
Anyone check out the Cal preview on Collegefootballnews today?
It’s somewhat favorable, which makes me suspicious…
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's be honest
Most of us are just waiting for anything, ANYTHING, to help us procrastinate.
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COME ON!!!
This is ridiculous, it’s almost 4:30! Does anyone know when the courthouse closes? I would assume 5, but I have no clue. From what I understand Judge Miller has to rule today, so she is starting to look like a drama queen! Ever since her grandiose visit to the stadium I have been wary of her ultimate intentions…
I GOT AN IDEA!
How about we call the courthouse and ask? You know they have a general info number I think. I am going to see what I can find out!!!
if its after court hours
doesn’t that mean that there won’t be a ruling today?
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I just read on the website that the phone hours are until five, but I can’t figure out which number to call on the long list! AHHHHHHHH
Call the clerk
make sure you have the case number or else she/he will treat you like you were Joe Ayoob.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it must be, it is so sad. The newest news they have is from 2007, and I can’t find the phone number I need! The graphics are a joke!
In irrelevant but entertaining news
I have some awesome shots of long bo guy. He manages to top himself every time I see him
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
your visit inspired a new saying...
...”like herding hippies”!
cats i can herd just fine so that one never made any sense.
GOD
IIIIIMMMMMMM DYYYYYYYYYYIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGGGG
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:40 PM PDT reply actions
19 MINUTES
28 SECONDS
(if the court closes at 5)
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's play a game while we wait.. might help pass time
Firstly read my post :http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2008/6/18/554319/cal-s-successes-and-failur
and comment on it.
Secondly. Let’s play word association. Post a word that is associated with the word the user above you posted.
I’ll start: Longshore
In other words, Go Bears!
I might just
go hang myself from one of those trees.
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
The GOD POD...from Ken Crawford
Well, still no ruling, but there has been one notable update to come out of the media around a midday incident. The tree-sitters have built what looks like a new platform well above the tree-line that they’re calling the "God pod" and looks like a crud crows-nest in an old ship well above the sails. My guess is that it was done overnight. In any case, the point of this platform is to put the tree-sitter in a precarious position where any attempt to either compromise the platform or to remove the tree-sitter will likely result in a VERY long fall. There’s no other branches or ropes or anything to prevent a disasterous collapse/fall.
by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 18, 2008 4:44 PM PDT reply actions
So now they're willing to die?
how misguidedly noble.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
the only time
I approve of the cleansing of the human gene pool
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I can verify
but it won’t let me upload pictures unless I do a new post…so I’ll do that after work.
It looks like a crows nest and it’s pretty precarious. I hope they can get her down safely.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
This is redon-donculous
Although this is encouraging, from someone on Scout:
HuesoDorado
Posted: Today 1:55 PM
Also: This-second update
I am sitting in Haas, with the window open, and I can
hear a lot of screaming. There has been intermittent
screaming throughout the day, but screaming usually
means that the arborists are cutting more things down.
Progress seems to be being made.
maybe that person is overhearing the rehearsals for the play based on Cal’s 2007 season being held at the Greek.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
What does the actions link do?
Next to the reply link. Whenever I click it it disappears
In other words, Go Bears!
Oh wait it does! I just have to click on something other than my own posts
In other words, Go Bears!
I really don’t consider myself a mod. I’m just more like a dude who writes on the blog and has tricked all of you into reading. ;)
Jokes on you!
Now none of us will read another of your posts… Who am I kidding, I take my fixes of Cal Football anywhere I can get them.
If I freaking click on the Register of Actions again and see
that damn “Letter from Charles Olson Filed” as the most recent filing I’m going to shoot myself!
is this the most comments a post has ever had????
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:52 PM PDT reply actions
I've discovered TwistNHook's true identity!!!
Judge Miller, spending all her time tormenting us in comments instead of releasing her ruling.
hahaha
i haven’t read any of these comments but I can see the frustration is thick… you can cut it with a knife. How many times has the word ‘hippie’ been typed… this can only mean no decision yet.
Fuck
I hadn’t noticed . . . . hahahaha!
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
you’re like the twinkee eating officer getting to the Die Hard building.
Welcome to the party pal!
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
we must have set some kind of record by now
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:55 PM PDT reply actions
SF Gate
just updated the article about the UC cutting down the platforms. someone else got arrested for cutting some kind of plastic tie linking barricades, and another dude got through, but the police stopped him before he got into a tree
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
it should be "your"
not you’re”.
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
BAD NEWS
...I don’t know the ruling outcome.
But the good news is I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico…
by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 18, 2008 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
wait 10 minutes
before you kill yourself. They might be slow updating the website.
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
someone should make a FanPost on Bruins Nation so we annoy them
and not ourselves.
200 comments in 5 minutes, anybody?
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
I heard the ruling would be faxed to the appropriate parties
Is it possible they just fax it to the plaintiff/defendant, and not to the news sources which would provide us with the outcome? I mean, how else would the media get ahold of the info. And isn’t a favorable ruling something BOTH sides would want to keep close to their chest?
are you fucking serious???????
THATS 2 MORE HOURS OF HELL!!!
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
THAT WAS A QUESTION TO YOU
NOT A STATEMENT
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
hold tight...
...sfgate should have it leaked to them any minute now. seriously. copy doesn’t write itself.
Mangino is not fat enough
Franchione should be holding a newspaper
Gundy should be yelling
In other words, Go Bears!
Didn’t tedford say he didn’t want to argue or whine to the BCS for the ranking? If so bad move
In other words, Go Bears!
I took pride in the fact that he took the high road, but i still think, "what if"
however, i still think that that makes JT a superior coach and human being.
JUST A REMINDER
GOLD OUT AGAINST MSU!!!!!!!
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:03 PM PDT reply actions
Roy, if we win this shit (knock on wood), I'll
be adorned in YELLOW!
by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 18, 2008 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, and I thought I was going nuts
Man, I just came over here to see what the story is… you guys make me look like captain cool.
You don't even know man
the past few hours have been like Nam. Unless you were here, you can’t even imagine.
by oaktownmario on Jun 18, 2008 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
you're more die-hard than I am
I’m just sitting on my couch reloading SF Gate’s homepage over and over and over and over and over….........
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Should I start driving to Berkeley now?
I wonder if I should go down there and check out this theoretical press conference that is supposed to be at 7 PM tonight to discuss this theoretical press conference.
HYDROTECH!!!!!
WHO TOLD YOU ABOUT THIS PRESS CONFERENCE??? WHERE ARE YOU??
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:13 PM PDT reply actions
That is the word we are getting from a friend of ours who is a Insider over at Bear Insider.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
a double insider?
Does this mean it’s time to go home?
My boss thinks I’m working hard here, typing away. AND staying late!
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
none of you guys is an insider?
I’m dissapointed.
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
None of us are insiders but somehow we managed to be the first ones to hear that Ben Braun got fired.
Word up, Hydro. You guys made me so cool with my friends.
by CalBandGreat on Jun 18, 2008 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I wanna meet Hydro, Twist and Raganork
To see the face behind the mysterious names. But I am afraid to do so.
In other words, Go Bears!
Wow, you guys are going craaaazy.
I’m on campus right now. I can be your reporter via Airbears. What do you want me to check out?
what the F*** is GOING ON
(please)
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That title makes me angrier than anything the treetards have done. Hype? What hype? We’re not even ranked. 8-4 would be a good season. We’re 8:1 odds to win the Pac-10 title, behind Oregon, UCLA, and ASU. Vegas isn’t giving us much of a chance either.
by BearsNecessity on Jun 18, 2008 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe. But the point is that we’re below Oregon and UCLA in terms of odds. The expectations by the bettors aren’t that high either.
by BearsNecessity on Jun 18, 2008 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
my thoughts exactly
he’s just using it as a lead in to his article.. he should have just led with the comeback/rebuilding aspect of the team.
KTVU has a few interesting tidbits:
Mogulof could not speculate on what will happen if sitters refuse to descend from the trees.“At every possible junction they have chosen confrontation. We’re really hoping that at some point there’ll be an outbreak of common sense,” he said.
School officials said the protest has cost the school more than $370,000 for security staffing and for fencing to limit access to the grove.
And a photo of Dumpster Muffin’s Godpod (6 syllables I never thought would go in a row):
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
Do not despair
I am the commander of Jeff Tedford’s ultra-secret paramilitary platoon. We are now on standby and have orders to torch the grove at 7:00pm if the ruling is “disappointing.”
is something going to happen before 7 PM?
or should I just check back at 7?
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:29 PM PDT reply actions
You need to a)continue to comment, b)refresh over and over and over again and c)click on some of the ads of our fine, fine sponsors! Thats what YOU need to do!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
I’m pretty sure ads are targeted by IP. If you’re using the same comp to click on the ads, they won’t be counted a second time.
by BearsNecessity on Jun 18, 2008 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
BUT IM BOOOOORRRRRRRRRREEEEEEDDDDDD
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we start a new thread? This shit is getting way too slow.
Also, is a press conference scheduled for 7?
by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 18, 2008 5:31 PM PDT reply actions
i do have a mac
and its the most expensive, yet slowest computer I’ve ever owned. Although I hear the core duos are faster.
but no, i’m using the PC i built myself. it must be comcast throttling my connection again.
wow
I’m hoping there’s not a mid-air helicopter collision, amongst the four that I can count.
Here’s a timesuck, if anyone needs:
well, if the helicopters crashed
and fell on the trees, they would probably burn down with the hippies in them, right? No need to call the fire department.
Are there actually 4 news helicopters???
by RollOnYouBears667 on Jun 18, 2008 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
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