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Pac10 Roundtable Week 14


We're all friends here.  For example, I'm Chandler.  I have put on a lot of weight in recent Rountable seasons.  I mean a LOT!  And I'm pretty sure that CougCenter is whichever character Jeniffer Aniston is. 

Which is why I feel that this YouTube video perfectly encapsulates the Pac10 Roundtable.  I feel like we've really bonded over these past 14 weeks with the Pac10 Roundtable.  Whether its confusion over What's Bruin, Dawg's inability to pick a team or that time I offended the first Wazzu blog so they left the Roundtable totally, I've had the time of my life! 

And I hope you have, too.  Luckily, this isn't the end.  Because even though football is over, basketball is just starting up.  And there's always bowl season.  Nonetheless, let's act as if we're experiencing a weepy and wistful remembrance of the last 14 weeks.

Oregon State will be represented by Building the Dam.  The Washington schools chime in with CougCenter and our newest SBN blog, UW Dawg Pound.  Conquest Chronicles and What's Bruin, Dawg? corner the SoCal market.  Finally, Pitchfork Nation comes to us from the hot state of Arizona.

Behind the fold, find the questions.  And, to a much lesser extent, the answers.  We brought our heads together to bring you these bad boys, so I hope you enjoy them!

Also, we've started again with that posting.  Check it:  Interview with Gary Tyrrell, Women's B-Ball PrimerBeastmode. Top25.  Eating The Enemy.  Fake PAT One.  Fake PAT Two. 

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1  Over the weekend, a number of USC Trojan comments appearing on the InterWebs made mention of how disappointed they were to be going to yet another Rose Bowl (UCLA game notwithstanding). Has the Rose Bowl game gradually lost its luster under the BCS format?

Oh god no.  Or at the very least, I'd like to think the very thing us Cal fans have been drooling over for the past 50 years will be as good as we remember it.  Were any of us to remember it.  Which we don't.

What this means is that USC fans are, as we all knew slash know, terrible, terrible people.  They are happy with nothing and demand only the finest.  Oh no, *only* the Rose Bowl.  *Only* your 46th straight BCS game.  Oh noes!

Shut up.  Cry me a river.  We're going to the Emerald Bowl, because OSU decided not to field a defense on Saturday.  And USC fans are somehow upset bc they are going to the Rose Bowl.  Also, Joey is using my towel.  This world isn't fair. 

2.  Oklahoma jumped Texas in the latest BCS poll. Is this an example of the BCS getting it right or does it add more fuel to the growing calls for a playoff system?


Well, from a BCS perspective, it doesn't really matter.  The issue here is with the Big XII, and their inability to break the tie in the South division based on the on-field results.  The BCS will take the conference champion, and they let who that team is be decided by the member conferences.  Situations like this enhance arguments not for a college football playoff, but for a Big XII playoff.

More generally, though situations like this are an example of the BCS working as designed.  Remember, in 2003 USC was jumped by both Oklahoma and LSU into the national title game despite the voters' preference for the Trojans.  Shock and outrage and a split national title ensued, and the setup was changed to give the polls more power to manipulate the BCS standings to create the matchups and outcomes desired.  In this case, the voters felt (or were lobbied to feel) that Oklahoma was the superior team and deserved to play for the Big XII South title, despite their head-to-head loss on a neutral field to Texas.  The system works.

Of course, one could easily argue that the system is stupid, and we should just have a playoff.  But then, what would college football pundits write about each December?

3.  Arizona State is one win away from becoming bowl eligible with a tough game at Arizona this week. Can the Sun Devils pull it out and get to the post-season?


ASU has put together a few solid wins here.  Played well against OSU, in Corvallis.  But I'm not sure they'll be able to knock off Arizona.  Cal fans know how tough it can be to beat Arizona at home.  Sure, ASU just took a whooping to UCLA. But firstly, its UCLA.  Secondly, if you look at it, ASU's D was the true hero that day.  The ASU O did not do much.  But the ASU D picked off Craft 40 times, running 38 of them back for TDs.  Tuitama is a MUCH better QB than Craft by a magnitude of 1,000,000,000.00.  Plus Marshawn.  ASU's D was pretty strong that day, but credit must be given to Craft, too.  With Tuitama playing much better than Craft, I don't think the ASU D will be able to put up as much of an amazing game. 

So, it seems likely that Arizona will win and ASU will sit this Bowl Season out.  Disappointing for many ASU fans who had high hopes for this year.

4.  Is it better suited for the conference as a whole to send the most teams possible to bowl games or only ones that have a legitimate chance at victory...aka teams that won't further embarrass the Pac-10?

Well, the obvious and incredibly easy answer is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.  More schools is more money.  More money is better facilities, better recruiting, better football.  So, even suffering an embarrassing loss in a BCS game helps the team.  If you have any Pac10 pride, you'll want them to get as much money as possible.  So, as many teams in the bowls, it is!  Anybody who answers otherwise isn't as ruthlessly oriented to money as I am.

5.  What's the deal, OSU?  Look, I get it, ruin your own season, that's fine.  Nobody cares about that.  But to ruin Cal's season?  And to cost the entire Pac10 millions and millions of dollars?  What's up with that?  I mean c'mon!

This is the very question, I posed.  And I have yet to get a solid answer.  Building The Dam told me to suck it.  Which I did. Didn't get much more than a sore neck.

Addicted To Quack said we should win our games.  Which, in my view, we did.  However, as I noted there, a completely uncontrollable series of referee mishaps, illegal opponent maneuvers, and not so hilarious Rube Goldberg-esque inanities combined to help steal 4 of those victories from Cal.  COMPLETELY UNCONTROLLABLE!

Conquest Chronicles told me that OSU had ruined their season too and that I should "man up."  Firstly, emotionally, I'm still a boy.  Secondly, when did GOING TO THE ROSE BOWL COUNT AS A RUINED SEASON?!?!?!  I hate you, USC.  Finally, Conquest Chronicles bringing the hate.  LOVE IT!

So, there we go.  Those are our answers.  What are yours?

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Did you have the time of your life these last 14 Roundtable weeks?
Yes! I've laughed. I've cried.
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You're Chandler?

Wasn’t he the…nudge nudge wink wink…y’know?

It's spelled S-H-U-damn it I can't think of one!

by echris on Dec 4, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twist

If you didn’t have such a hot wife and a huge shlong, I’d totally ask you out

Hugh shlongs scare me, that’s why I’ve always enjoyed my little weiner

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you’re not the only one

It's spelled S-H-U-damn it I can't think of one!

by echris on Dec 4, 2008 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And maybe if you didn’t support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball I’d accept your invitation.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well I'd take it off

But now Takimoto supports me in my effort to support him in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball, so, Catch 22

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is what happens with Oregon and OSU get together. They screw Cal fans over, yet again!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

Remember last year when Cal was poised to take over the #1 spot after they beat Oregon in Eugene, and then LSU lost and everyone was chanting “WE’RE NUMBER 1! WE’RE NUMBER 1!”

And then this happened:

It really was all a ploy by Oregon and Oregon State. Oregon said “hey we’re gonna lose to catapult Cal to #2 so you can beat them.” Seriously, they went so close as to fumble out of the end zone. That’s how good they were last year. They had to fumble out of the end zone in order to not score.

DucksNBeavs 4Ever!!!

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chip Kelly is a genius! Planned fumble to throw the game to screw over Cal in a week!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And yet somehow he was made head coach.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t you get it? It was all the plan! He isn’t constrained by the game clock anymore. He’ll beat you one, two, three weeks later!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We might have won the battle by beating Oregon on 11.1, but we lost the war when they beat us on 11.28.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When did you win the battle against Oregon State?

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh. I’m gonna quote you on this sometime…

DucksNBeavs 4Ever!!!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't you dare

It was a joke..

Of course, Nick Aliotti thinks its true… Why couldn’t you name him head coach?

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now you should join us and screw over the Huskies! It’s fun!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I predict even were I to not join you, the Huskies wouldn’t stand much of a chance.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But it is more fun our way. Do some crazy ass EA Sports NCAA score on them.

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What was the final score for UO-UW?

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

140-3

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I predict we win 141-2.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 2:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s a lot of safeties!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No joke there is a bum here in Corvallis, he is affectionately known as Beaver Joe

And the Friday night before games, if you see Beaver Joe on the streets, you ask his prediction

He always gives some ridiculous prediction like 102-5 or whatever

Civil War 2004, he predicted the correct score. People got him sooooo drunk

Maybe that’s what BtD tagline should be: Getting homeless people drunk, one Friday night at a time

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His hot wife has a huge shlong?

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TwistNHook's Wife Has A Huge Shlong

TNHWHAHS — pronounced, tin-how-hawz

It’s spelled S-H-U-T-N-H-W-H-A-H-S

No? Ok dammit

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Too many Oregon posters

I think I have a contact high.

...Scuzzlin fo a Jack in Da Box

by Thoroughbred on Dec 4, 2008 2:43 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All you need is a little Bak Bak

Arguably the best looking Cal athlete since Marshawn Lynch

I support Takimoto in his effort to support Roger Kieschnick in his quest to becoming the best Kieschnick ever to play professional baseball.

by The VD Special on Dec 4, 2008 2:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That guy is shinin’ 7 days a week….365 days a week!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 2:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damnit! I failed!

It's spelled "S-H-U-C-F-A-D-O-D-N-C-S"

Please, ask me about CFADODNCS.

by JShufelt on Dec 4, 2008 3:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure that doing your best OSU impersonation will really endear yourself to them.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 4, 2008 3:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

...Scuzzlin fo a Jack in Da Box

by Thoroughbred on Dec 4, 2008 3:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa.. did they just fix it while I was in the process of posting that pic?? That was fast. I posted my complaint on their developer blog this morning… Does this mean they’re actually listening to me?

by danzig on Dec 4, 2008 3:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes danzig, they’re listening to you, tracking you, watching you download alluring Cal volleyball photos.

by BearsNecessity on Dec 4, 2008 3:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I shows up when you roll over the top of the video.

by CountDuku on Dec 4, 2008 3:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, I’m paranoid enough about my security as it is…

by danzig on Dec 4, 2008 5:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus I’m a Firefox user… and I’m not comfortable with the fact that 80% of Firefox’s financing comes from Google.

by danzig on Dec 4, 2008 5:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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