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DBD 12.10.08 As a birthday gift I'm going to make a DBD!

Royicon_tiny by royrules22 on Comment 428 comments

Yes I know either Rishi or Twist or Hydro was supposed to do it. But seeing that it is my birthday (and I'm officially not a teen anymore!) and that I'm pulling an all nighter to finish two projects I decided I'll reward myself with my first ever DBD!

Pointless Twist-style discussion:

Who will Cal play for that open slot we have in 2009? Many folks on BI seem to think it might be UC Davis. Chances are thought it might be some directional State school.

What jerseys should Cal wear for the bowl? I want the original mustard top jersies (the one we wore against Oregon 06 or Tennessee 07). I do think that the yellow jerseys are going to be there.

We need a CGB tailgate

Jahvid Best is a man among children (a.k.a. Jacquizz)

Syd'Quan Thompson will be our starting QB in 2009

Nude Sushi is the best Cal invention ever

Implementing rag dolls are a pain in the ass

Now the links:

Alex Mack wins the Draddy Award (Academic Heisman)

California center Alex Mack won the Draddy Trophy on Tuesday night, given to the top senior scholar-athlete in college football.

He beat out 14 other players from all levels of college football, including Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel and Texas Tech quarterback Graham Harrell, and received the award at the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame awards banquet.

Official Emerald Bowl page

Ken Goe (The Oregonian) thinks Cal has a good chance against Miami

I like Cal's chances in the Emerald Bowl against Miami, a poor imitation of the Hurricanes' powerhouse teams of yesteryear. The Bears have been solid defensively all season. Tailback Jahvid Best's return to health gives them a game-breaking dimension in what amounts to a home game.

I don't know much about basketball but here's A Conversation with Assistant Coach Jennifer Hoover of the Cal's womens basketball team

Being from the East, can you comment on the "East Coast" bias that seems to exist in women's college basketball?

From my point of view I think it's just purely a lack of exposure. I rarely saw anybody but Stanford on TV, and that was back when I was a player growing up, when (Jennifer) Azzi was there ... The East Coast people are asleep when most of the (west coast) games are occurring and you think 'TIVO'. Well the college basketball world will TIVO it, but just the average fan that's looking for a game?

In case you missed it:

Cal v. Clemson 1991 Citrus Bowl Part 1
Cal v. Clemson 1991 Citrus Bowl Part 2

Now we can wait for Twist to wake up and post some meaningful links in the comments.

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Tom Schneider, blogger extraordinaire and ex-Golden Bear, is covered in the Chronicle. I did enjoy these comments from Tom on his blog:

On a conversation with a teammate from Florida:

“I’m pretty sure he was speaking English, but I honestly understood about 2 percent of what he said.”

On Leo and Una, the team’s mascots:

“I’m pretty sure they (tranquilize) the heck out of the lions because they are passed out the entire game … probably for the better.”

After a game at West Georgia:

“Note to self: Do not commit any felonies (and get caught) while I’m down here. Not only is the death penalty more prevalent, prisoners have cleanup duty after college football games. On the bright side they get three hots and a cot. I think cable as well. I don’t have cable.”

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 6:49 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ben Braun and his former players, still keep in touch:

Johnson continues to play close attention to Stanford and his other former team, Nevada, while Braun stays in contact with some of his former Cal players. Braun got a text message from Theo Robertson after the Bears’ loss to Missouri on Sunday.

“I just told him to keep his head up,” said Braun, who might need that advice himself this season.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 6:54 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, nobody saw this coming. This is a true nWo style run in!

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 7:36 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always though royrules22 had a little Scott Hall (er, Razor Ramon?) in him.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 7:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And another one for the good guys!

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 7:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another Mack Draddy link:

California senior center Alex Mack was named winner of the 2008 Draddy Trophy as the nation’s top football scholar-athlete during a ceremony at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York Tuesday night.

The Draddy Trophy, also referred to as the “Academic Heisman,” is one of college football’s most sought-after and competitive awards, recognizing an individual as the absolute best in the country for his combined academic success, football performance and community leadership. The award comes with a 24-inch, 25-pound bronze trophy and a $25,000 postgraduate scholarship. A total of $277,000 was awarded to Mack and the other 14 Draddy Trophy finalists at the National Football Foundation & College Hall of Fame’s Annual Awards Dinner.

“It was amazing to win,” Mack said. “Academics and football take up so much of your time and you have to make so may sacrifices. Just to be recognized as a finalist was an honor. I was very surprised. The first thing I said up at the podium was, `wow.’ It is a big honor to be selected.”

VBall to take on Illinois:

BERKELEY, Calif. – After making short work of first and second round opponents, the Golden Bears head to State College, Pa. for their third consecutive NCAA tournament regional semifinal with a shot at revenge on their minds. As one of 16 remaining teams in the 2008 NCAA Division I Women’s Volleyball Championship, Cal will face No. 14 Illinois in one regional semifinal match for the right to take on defending champion No. 1 Penn State in the regional final. The Bears fell to the Nittany Lions in the national championship semifinal a year ago and would like nothing better than to knock off undefeated Penn State. But first, Cal must get through an Illini squad that finished third in the Big Ten conference and which has won its last seven matches heading into the weekend. After hitting a rough patch in the season, the Bears have since won five of their last six and are in position to clinch Cal’s best record in school history.

THE FACTS: No. 8 Cal (25-6, 13-5 Pac-10) earned the right to advance to the University Park Regional Semifinal of the 2008 NCAA Division I Women’s Volleyball Championship with wins over Siena College and New Mexico State last weekend. The Bears will face No. 14 Illinois (26-7, 15-5 Big Ten) in a 12:30 p.m. PT match on Friday, Dec. 12 at the Rec Hall in State College, Pa. No. 1 Penn State (34-0, 20-0 Big Ten) draws Western Michigan (28-6, 14-2 MAC) in the other semifinal match at 3 p.m. PT, Dec. 12. The winners of each match will play in the University Park Regional Championship Match on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 1 p.m. PT. The final will be broadcast live by ESPNU with Beth Mowins calling the action and Karch Kiraly providing color commentary. Live statistics and streaming video links for the two semifinal matches can be found at www.gopsusports.com.

Womens BBall to take on Oklahoma in BIG MATCHUP in San Ho!

Friday, Dec. 12, 8:00 p.m.: No. 9/7 Cal at San Jose State

Saturday, Dec. 13, 6:00 p.m.: No. 9/7 Cal vs. No. 5/6 Oklahoma (at San Jose State) (Radio: KALX 90.7 fm, TV: none)

The California Golden Bears hung on to a spot in the top 10 in the national rankings after being handed their first loss of the season Sunday, Dec. 7, falling 82-73 to No. 22 TCU. After spending two weeks with a program-best No. 3 ranking, the Bears are ranked No. 9 in this week’s Associated Press poll and No. 7 in the USA Today/ESPN Coaches’ poll. The Bears were ranked No. 9 in the preseason in both polls.

The Bears will take on their third ranked opponent of the season when they face No. 5/6 Oklahoma Saturday in the finale of the Basketball by the Bay tournament at San Jose State. Cal has six wins over ranked opponents since 2005-06 and an overall 6-16 mark over that same span.

The loss to TCU ended the Bears’ streak of seven wins to open the season, the best start in program history. It also put an end to a 33-game non-conference home win streak. Prior to Sunday, the Bears had not lost on the home court to a non-conference opponent since Dec. 8, 2002, when they fell to Colorado in the final of this same tournament, at the time called the Oakland Tribune Classic. In regular season action, the Bears are now 34-6 against non-conference opponents since Boyle took over the program in 2005-06. Their best regular season non-conference record came in 2006-07 when the Bears had just one loss, to No. 14 Vanderbilt in Nashville, to go with 10 non-Pac-10 wins.

Mens BBall to take on Utah tonight:


California Golden Bears (6-2) at Utah Utes (5-2)
Wednesday, Dec. 10, 5 p.m. PT / 6 p.m. MT, Huntsman Center, Salt Lake City, UT
Radio: KYOU (1550 AM)
TV: The Mtn.

California ends its two-game road trip with a visit to Utah Wednesday for a 5 p.m. PT tipoff. The Golden Bears hope to bounce back from their second loss of the season before a 10-day hiatus for final exams, after which Cal resumes action Dec. 20 against Nevada, part of a six-game homestand at Haas Pavilion.

The Bears are coming off a 93-66 loss at Missouri last Sunday that stands in sharp contrast to the six wins thus far in the Mike Montgomery era. Compared to its only other defeat, a narrow decision against Florida State Nov. 29, Cal shot only 35.9 percent from the field, hit only 56.0 percent of its free throws and was outrebounded 48-38 against the Tigers in Columbia.

The Bears continue to pace the nation in three-point accuracy, having connected on just over half their attempts (50.5%). Junior G Jerome Randle is leading the way from behind the arc, hitting on 23-of-37 attempts for a 62.2 percent success rate, No. 3 in the country.

Randle also leads the squad with 20.3 ppg after scoring team highs of 15 at Missouri, 24 vs. DePaul and personal-high tie of 26 against Florida State. He is dishing out 4.5 apg and owns a team-best 12 steals.

Cal mens rowing coach to receive highest rowing medal:

BERKELEY – California men’s crew head coach Mike Teti received the USRowing Medal, the highest honor that the rowing governing body can bestow, USRowing announced last week. Teti and other award winners were honored at the USRowing Annual Awards Reception on Dec. 5 in Atlantic City, N.J.

The USRowing Medal is given to a member of the rowing community in the United States who has rendered conspicuous service to or accomplished extraordinary feats in rowing. Teti, who took over the Cal men’s rowing program following the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, China, served as USRowing’s men’s sweep head coach from the fall of 1996 through August of 2008. During his tenure, Teti led the U.S. men’s eight to Olympic gold in 2004 and Olympic bronze in 2008. The victory in 2004 marked the first time the U.S. had won the Olympic title since 1964.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 7:46 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even when you don’t do the DBD, you kinda still do the DBD.

Go Bears!

by RollOnYouBears667 on Dec 10, 2008 4:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you want to be the one to go from link to link at the official Cal site to include them? You can if you so dseire.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 4:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just think it’s funny when on the one day someone else does the dbd you still post the majority of the links. That wasn’t a complaint.

Go Bears!

by RollOnYouBears667 on Dec 10, 2008 4:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, the person who starts the DBD doesnt have to have the MOST links. Or ALL of the links. They just start the FanPost so all other links can be put in. We want as many links as possible in here. Well, at least vaguely Cal related links.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 4:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal in need of makeover:

SALT LAKE CITY — As the Cal basketball team prepares for the most challenging game left on its nonconference schedule, coach Mike Montgomery says the Golden Bears “need to grow up.”

Cal (6-2), coming off a 93-66 loss at Missouri on Sunday, tonight faces Utah (5-2), a team with losses to Idaho State and Division II Southwest Baptist and a 14-point victory over Oregon.

How should the Bears fare at the Huntsman Center?

“A lot depends on where they are (mentally) and how they react,” Montgomery said of his squad. "They’re going to need to grow up. We’re playing good people. If you want to be a good basketball team, you relish these challenges.

Pac10 weaker than normal:

Here’s what we feel comfortable saying about Pac-10 basketball so far this season: It’s not as good at the top as it was a season ago, as good in the middle or any better at the bottom.

At this same stage a year ago — adding up the records of teams by matching the number of games each team has played to date — the Pac-10 had a composite record of 57-15. This year, it’s nine games worse at 48-24.

A few reasons why:

# Too much talent defected all at once last spring. Three Pac-10 players were taken among the first five picks in the NBA draft, six went in the first 15 selections and 12 of the top 54 choices were from the conference. All eight Pac-10 first-round picks were freshmen or sophomores.

# The current freshman class can’t match the newcomers from a year ago — or 2006-07, for that matter. Last year’s Pac-10 rookie class featured franchise-caliber players in Kevin Love of UCLA, O.J. Mayo of USC and Jerryd Bayless of Arizona — stars from Day 1. Much-hyped replacements Jrue Holiday of UCLA and DeMar DeRozan of USC may be terrific eventually, but so far they look like freshmen. And would-be Arizona freshman Brandon Jennings is closer to Tuscany than Tucson, playing professionally in Italy.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 7:47 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outside of noting Jonathan Dwyer’s 128 yards in the first half against the Hurricanes, not a single mention of Miami in ESPN’s review of the ACC regular season or picks for the all-conference team.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 8:08 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

<3

Thanks Roy. I got hammered with work this morning and decided to do it since they’re apparently laying off people in the company.

Happy birthday!

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 8:44 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, when I first saw this DBD, I was very excited, Roy. I couldn’t believe that you remembered my birthday! How thoughtful!

Then I saw that you were only celebrating your OWN birthday. You don’t love me after all! How disappointing…

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 8:50 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, how did your boss take it when you called in “sick” today?

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 8:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Isn’t this the day people were trying to get everyone to call in “gay”?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 8:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Giants did that last year.

I think the Giants did that last year.

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 8:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For Twist, they’re one and the same.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 8:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t play coy with me. You are always so good at playing coy. Hmmmm.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 8:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

very mild NSFW

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I think the Giants did that last year.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If it is true HAPPY BIRTHDAY ragnarok!

Everyone who shares my b-day is awesome!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Dec 10, 2008 8:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, now I feel non-awesome.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 8:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 8:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More so than usual.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 9:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is!

you can check my facebook page.

Happy Birthday, Roy!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 8:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone else who posts here also has a birthday today, but I forgot his username.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Dec 10, 2008 12:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Schneider and pineapples

I hope this guy makes it…

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:03 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

neat

i hadn’t seen that blog before. guess i’ll put it up on the blogroll.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone seen Reno 911 Miami The Movie?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:08 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yea, I’ve seen it. What do you want to know?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know…is it funny?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you like the show, you’ll like the movie.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:14 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m a law enforcement cheetah!

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reno is a lot like Mayberry on the TV except that everyone’s on crystal meth and prostitution’s legal.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:17 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes. Yes, I have.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this came up during a “south florida funny” google image search w/ the safe search on:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u67/oscar0099/funny.jpg (mild NSFW for language)

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:12 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Now I had to write something on the bat. At Memorial Stadium, the bat room was not too close to the clubhouse, so I wanted to write something that I could find immediately if I looked up and it was 4:44 and I had to get out there on the field a minute later and not be late. There were five big grocery carts full of bats in there and if I wrote my number 3, it could be too confusing. So I wrote ‘F—k’ Face on it.”

from that article

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal’s best bowl moment:

Best Bear Bowl Moment: You’ve got to venture all the way back to 1938 and the days of Vic Bottari to find a truly meaningful Cal bowl victory. The "Thunder Team", as it was dubbed, shut out Alabama 13-0 in the Rose Bowl, en route to the Bears’ second and last national championship. Cal finished its season

via scout.com

Man, winning the NC in the Rose Bowl against an SEC team? Why can’t real life be like this anymore?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:25 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How many national championships does Cal believe it owns in football? College Football Data Warehouse says they can lay claim to as many as five, but most likely only two, in 1921 and 1923.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right...

The 1937 season had Cal finish 10-0-1 (Donovan McNabb is confused), while Pitt finished 9-0-1, but Pitt was consensus national champions.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, anything before the AP poll starting naming national champions in 1936 is a retroactively-named championship, so it’s going to be especially well-disputed.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 9:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well there were a couple organizations that were polling during that time period that nonetheless selected Cal, including the Helms Athletic Foundation and the College Football Researchers Association. CFRA chose Cal in 1920 and 1922 whereas Helms selected Cal in 1920 and 1937. My 1921 and 1923 mentions above were incorrect.

That said, because so few teams traveled and none of those pollsters could watch games on television, the post hoc mathematical formulas, in my opinion, are fairer and likely a better reflection of who was truly the national champion.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because so few teams traveled and none of those pollsters could watch games on television

I actually think this is a pretty good argument for there being no such thing as a national champion for years that far back.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, the post-hoc mathematical formulas made USC the national champions in 2002 and 2006.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m just saying, if you’re going to name a national champion from the early days of college football, or pre-1950, the formulas are probably a better reflection of where teams stood.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, maybe so. Though, if that’s the case, we are going to eliminate a lot more years than pre-1936, no?

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably

It’s all a fun exercise, really. But I think all of this mathematical models and guesswork and such are the reasons that the term Mythical National Championship (MNC) has become prevalent. Because without a real playoff, how do we know?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I spent about two years figuring out why the NC game was called the ‘MNC’

by turkey on Dec 10, 2008 11:10 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bear in mind, though, they had radio and pollsters back then probably had more clue about each team than they do now.

They read the articles in the newspaper and poured over clippings before submitting a vote. Now, a Harris voter votes Penn State #1 because he thinks they’re undefeated (even though they’re not).

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t think you get nearly a good a feel for a team by listening on radio versus watching on television.

And, I think your second point is why I, personally, would prefer the AP poll included in the BCS rather than the Coaches and Harris polls.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 9:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AP opted out after the debacle of 2004.

And, sure, but you also don’t get nearly as good a feel for a team by watching on television vs being on the sidelines. Does that mean in the future, when we develop cloning and teleportation nanotechnology that polls based on television viewing should be invalid?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure I didn’t say the current system is ideal. I agree being on the sidelines or at the game generally, helps to understand how good a team really is. You just don’t see enough, even on television.

All of this points to the obvious conclusion, the only way to know who is really the best team in the country, or to at least have a clue, is by holding a playoff. Otherwise, the idea of “a” national champion is pretty silly. All we know at the end of the season is there are a handful of really good teams that should beat all the others – though we don’t know for sure.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Extending that logic, wouldn’t we need every team to play every other team to prove that they are the best?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 10:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. It is impossible to know for certain who is the best team in college football without playing common opponents. But, the closest we can get is by instituting an 8 to 16 team playoff whereby the best estimate can be derived.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:14 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In an eight-team playoff, Boise State wouldn’t be included, in spite of the fact that they’re undefeated. How would you know they’re not the best team?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Depends on how you choose the 8 teams.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about 8 conference champions —
ACC, Big T1e1n, Big East, Big 12, Pac-10, and SEC champs as automatic playoffs spots, and then some way to figure out among the MAC, WAC, Mountain West, C-USA, and Sun Belt champions who gets the final 2 spots. Include Notre Dame, if you want (or make ‘em join a conference, I don’t really care).

Not in the playoffs? Guess you’ll just go to a bowl game then.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 10:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, we trust the conferences to pick their best team?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Giants did that last year.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not? At least it’s settled on the field, requiring a team to win a conference championship before it can be a national champion. No more reliance on polls, computers, etc. (Unless if you’re in the Big XII South…)

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 11:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So rather than things that calculate based on strengths that a team shows, we’d rely on the way individual conferences organize tie-breakers.

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 11:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes. It doesn’t strike me as unpalatable to do it that way. And the conferences have an incentive to put their best team forward, so they’ll presumably design a tiebreaker to do that.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That still won’t fix potential problems or complaints that could arise, what happens if the Big 10 has two undefeated conference teams that don’t play each other, or a conference ends up with a 3 way tie like the Big 12 South. We just trust whatever bureaucratic setup they have?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 11:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If the Beers beat Detroit and Denver beats Atlanta in the American Southwestern Division East Northern, then Milwaukee goes to the Denslow Cup, unless Baltimore can upset Buffalo and Charlotte ties Toronto, then Oakland would play LA and Pittsburgh in a blind choice round robin. And if no clear winner emerges from all of this, a two-man sack race will be held on consecutive Sundays until a champion can be crowned.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beers Win! Beers Win!

by CountDuku on Dec 10, 2008 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wasn’t suggesting a “fix” to any problem or answer all complaints. I was just suggesting how to fill an 8-team playoff field. If an 8-team playofff is what we have, like the idea of making it a tournament of conference champions. As far as how the conferences choose to break ties, I don’t really have a problem with leaving it up to the conferences.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 12:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I simulated this in another thread, but that’s a lot more reasonable than the top eight in the BCS. Then, the at-larges would still be Texas and Utah and Boise State would still be left out, but this is more fair and has less to do with perception.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what about ranking the 11 conference champions? make the bottom 6 play a play-in game.

BYEs – Oklahoma, Florida, USC, Utah, Penn State

Play-ins:
Boise State vs. Buffalo
Cincinnati vs. Troy
Virginia Tech vs. Tulsa

That’s fair, but not necessarily compelling television.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No more or less compellting than the C-USA and MAC Championship games that were on TV last weekend. Or, for that matter, the December regular season games that have become so common in recent seasons.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 11:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course there is always a team that is excluded, whether it is #9 or #17. The point is, a playoff would provide a much better estimate as to who the best team in a given year is. Do you actually disagree? Or do you think the current system does a good enough job?

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know – on one hand, I like a lot of the current system. I really like how every single game counts. You cannot lose and complain when you don’t make it up. With a playoff, Oregon State over USC and Iowa over Penn State become just minor inconveniences that affect seeding, as opposed to the dream killers those games turned out to be.

On the other hand, there are times when it’s clearly broken. The best example I can think of is 2004 with undefeated USC, Oklahoma, and Auburn.

But the current system really just determines the MNC, not the “best team”. Last year, how many people thought LSU was really the best team? Or Florida in 2006? Did anyone think that USC could not have beaten both those teams? Does anyone not think that USC would beat Oklahoma today?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

completely agree

if you have a playoff, it really takes away the value of the regular season, and college football has the best regular season of any major sport. I like it the way it is.

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I agree college football has the best regular season of any sport. And, to some extent a playoff could take away from that and the traditional bowl games. If we don’t really care who gets the MNC, then a playoff is pointless.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Besides, what would college football be without complaining?

Seriously, it’s as big a tradition as the Rose Bowl parade, the dotting of the “i”, and Touchdown Jesus combined.

How boring would 2006 have been without the Florida-Michigan scandal? 2004 without Auburn and Cal? This year without Texas?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just admit it Rishi, you hate playoffs because you love John McCain.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the only way the ncaa will go for a playoff

is if all conference champions are included (same as every other sport)

which means 11 set spots. if you do a 16 team tourney, that leaves 5 at larges. This year that would be…..

texas, georgia, and some others.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Dec 10, 2008 10:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you take the Top 5 non-conference winners, you get Texas, Alabama, Texas Tech, Ohio State and TCU. Limit it to 2 teams per conference, and you substitute Georgia Tech for Texas Tech.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, in this scenario (limit 2 teams per conference), this is your bracket:

1v16 – Oklahoma vs. Troy
2v15 – Florida vs. Buffalo
3v14 – Texas vs. East Carolina
4v13 – Alabama vs. Virginia Tech
5v12 – USC vs. Georgia Tech
6v11 – Utah vs. Cincinnati
7v10 – Penn State vs. TCU
8v9 – Boise State vs. Ohio State

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:23 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, Bama, SC, Utah, Penn State and Ohio state win in round one.

Oklahoma, Florida, Texas, and USC win in round two.

Florida beats Texas and SC beats Oklahoma.

SC beats Florida.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would we shorten the reg,. season?… this is way too many games for college players; we’d be third string play third string for the NC

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 11:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eliminate conference championship games, institute uniform tie breaker procedures. Week one of the playoffs would begin the week after Thanksgiving. The second round could begin the week after finals. Doesn’t seem impossible, but yeah, it’s a problem.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The week after finals? That’s not uniform for NCAA teams, in fact some school has finals pretty much every day during that time.

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure very few schools have finals after, say a couple days before Christmas.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note, the Vegas Bowl is on December 20th.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

few, yes, but teams have been known to decline invitations to the early bowls because of conflicts with finals.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The second round could begin the week after finals.

What week would that be?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 11:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh, post-finals week. I mean c’mon, hellooooooooo!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually, you just make each conf.

decide it’s champion by the first Sunday in Dec. (after the first sat), three more saturday’s in dec.

week off for new years, and then the nc game.

keep all the newyears weekend bowls for everyone except the nc game….lose the stupid bowls (maybe 15 total, rather than 30)

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Dec 10, 2008 4:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

three more saturday’s in dec.

Those three more saturdays when schools are in finals?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 11, 2008 8:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perhaps

though upsets do happen. and injuries.

this system doesn’t insure the best team wins, but it does ensure we have an undisputed champion.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Nati, Va Tech, and even Georgia Tech could offer stiff competition.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it’s just college athletics, I don’t see the huge cry fest over the need for a national championship. If you want one, go watch the NFL. In theory college athletics is supposed to be about more than championships?

by turkey on Dec 10, 2008 11:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huh?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A meandering way of saying I just don’t see how any playoff system is going to work, and that I don’t think it’s all that important.

by turkey on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree with you!

That was a meandering way of stating that I agree. With you!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have there been any surveys of how the players would feel about this? It’s already a long season, do they really want to play all those extra games?

by turkey on Dec 10, 2008 11:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh, they are probably fine with it.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, we’ve already got the massive economic slump thing going, so maybe more things will be like the 1930s soon!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 9:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal Cheerleader of the Year?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:38 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is there a contest?

is there a talent portion?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes…let’s have a CGB Cal Cheerleader of the Year (CGBCCoY) contest. Twist will have to interview her without being an idiot. So, I nominate “Sarah” (as a side note…to college or pro cheerleaders ever really use their last name?). Can I get a second?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 12:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Second. Absolutely.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 1:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You look at the group picture and you thinking, not so bad.
Than you click on an individual girl, have her picture show up, and reality sets in.
How I Met Your Mother was right…..the cheerleader effect.

by GoldenTorero on Dec 10, 2008 10:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think someone at a Sacramento Alumni thing heard Sandy Barbour say it was likely UCD. I think JO confirmed it in one of his pointless online chats.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JO merely restated the rumor from the Sac Grid Club thing.

If we have to play a I-AA team, Davis is a good choice (local, so there’s at least some interest — plus, my brother went to Davis), but I’d much prefer we played a relatively weak I-A team, like San Jose State or San Diego State.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 9:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SD State would be perfect, plus I’d totally roadtrip it down there to enjoy sunny Whale’s Vagina.

Screw playing D1-AA teams. We’re not the friggin SEC. I’m a season ticket holder and a Cal fan. I get twelve or thirteen games per season. I do not want to waste a game watching a D1-AA team.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SD State would be fine…Fresno St…that sounds too risky to me. I’d be ok with Nevada (Lake Tahoe in the Fall…awesome!)

I think Caltech used to have a DIII football team and they played in the Rose Bowl…most amount of empty seats ever.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course not Fresno. With Minnesota and Maryland on the schedule, plus a full Pac-10 slate, I think a “C” team that Cal should have no trouble beating is entirely called for. Nevada might not be a bad choice. Idaho is a popular punching bag, as is Utah State, New Mexico State, Wyoming and UNLV (upset of ASU notwithstanding). Basically, someone from the bottom of the WAC or Mountain West, the closer to the Bay Area, the better.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, as long as that C team is not from the FCS.

Seriously, San Diego State is an awesome choice. I’d really enjoy the road trip.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um

I think it will be a home game. I doubt we’d agree to a home and home with SD State.

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:12 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why not? We’re not a bunch of [expletive deleted] who take advantage of shoddy mid-majors for heavy paydays.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sandy is not going to agree to a home and home with a terrible team. No more road trips to Fort Collins.

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:20 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sigh.

I want to go to SD.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ashley looks like she has a pen15

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:39 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, well not her then.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colorado State was a 2 for 1, which is a little more acceptable. We did the same thing with New Mexico State and Louisiana Tech. (Admittedly, all deals done before Sandy became AD.)

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Admittedly, all deals done before Sandy became AD

Exactly.

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did we ever finish the Louisiana Tech series?

I don’t think we’ve played them away yet.

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We started the series away in 1997.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah

www.californiagoldenblogs.com

by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That game sucked.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 10:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Holmoe sucked.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tell me about it!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 10:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You would know, wouldn’t you?

Was it good for you?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it was 3 of the worst years of my life!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just 3? I thought all 5 were pretty bad.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 11:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twist spend two of those years in HS.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 11:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trying desperately to get into Stanford!!!!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, then, at least Twist experienced one undergraduate victory over stanfurd. I enjoyed no such satisfaction.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 10, 2008 12:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did and it was PURE GLORY!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 12:31 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we play 'em in '10..

2009 (need one game)
Sept. 5 – Maryland
Sept. 19 – at Minnesota
Sept. 26 – at Oregon
Oct. 3 – USC
Oct. 10 – at Washington
Oct. 17 – at UCLA
Oct. 24 – Washington State
Oct. 31 – at Arizona State
Nov. 7 – Oregon State
Nov. 14 – Arizona
Nov. 21 – at Stanford

2010 (need one game)
Sept. 4 – Louisiana Tech
Sept. 11 – Colorado
Sept. 25 – Washington
Oct. 2 – at Arizona
Oct. 9 – UCLA
Oct. 16 – at USC
Oct. 23 – Arizona State
Oct. 30 – at Oregon State
Nov. 6 – at Washington State
Nov. 13 – Oregon
Dec. 4 – Stanford

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, I really want to see a top-notch OOC game. Seriously. Schedule a Texas, an Oklahoma, an Ohio State, a Michigan, a Florida, an Alabama, etc.

Fine, we can lose the game. But, damnit, I like intersectional match-ups. Let’s make it happen!

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Colorado’s not too bad…

I think Ohio St. is scheduled in like 5 years supposedly

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Not too bad” isn’t good enough. That’s what Tennessee and Michigan State were. Sure, Tennessee won its division and played in the SEC CG, and sure, Michigan State is third place in the Big Ten this year. But, damnit, let’s play the best.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok…sounds good to me. Although, it’s hard to schedule “the best” because that has to be done so far in advance that you don’t know how good they’ll be at the time you play them. Ohio St in 2012 will be without Terrell Pryor…

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By “best”, I really mean big name schools.

Tennessee is good, I shouldn’t downplay that. But even a Notre Dame or a Michigan would be great. That’s why I’m so happy we’re playing Miami in the Emerald Bowl. Win or lose, it’s a lot of exposure.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we have Ohio State lined up for 2012 and 2013.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Step in the right direction. I hope we can keep it up.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and @ Colorado in 2011?

do you have a link for future OOC games?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal Football Future Schedules

This is a compilation of everything I’ve been able to find online (confirmed only — no UCD rumors).

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cool! Thanks! From that link:

Steve] Holton [Cal’s Deputy Director of Athletics] said that coach Jeff Tedford has "an A-B-C philosophy’’ about scheduling. That is, each year he wants to play a school from the A list — a BCS-caliber team from a major conference. He wants a B team from the Mountain West or the Western Athletic Conference. And he wants a C team, or, as Holton said, "somebody you think you have a pretty good opportunity to beat.’’

I think, under this definition FCS teams (portland st., ucd, etc., and currently SD St) would fall under “C”. Nevada might be a “B”…Fresno St. most definitely is.

The B games are the most dangerous; lose and it’s “OMG.” Win and it’s “well, they’re ____.” Maryland and Minnesota are more B+ than A’s…as both carry that same type of risk than a school like tOSU or Tennessee.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, and an OSU is more risk/reward. Lose and it’s “oh well, Cal’s not elite yet”. Win and it’s “Damn, Cal is a big boy now”.

But no FCS teams!

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:38 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

earlier in the year I shared your same sentiments regarding FCS teams. But now I want an equal effin playing field with the big boys. And if that means the occasional FCS team…I’m ok with it.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Look, this whole “let’s beat up on mid-majors” is how we got into this whole “1-5 against MWC” mess.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WE didn’t… the shitty Pac-10 teams did. We dusted Colo St. like we were supposed to

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, Colorado State is bowl bound!

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, the problem was it was basically the bottom of our conference against the top of theirs. (Utah over Oregon State notwithstanding)

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, who’s better – Best or Quizz Rodgers?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jahvidizz Rodgerbest

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thankfully, the silly facts, er, statistics, say Best.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UDub used to be at the top of the conference. So did Wazzou. UCLA used to be good. Don’t forget these games are scheduled in advance.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maryland and Tennessee were definitely ‘A’ teams when scheduled

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Maryland really an A team? If that’s the case, next year we have 2 A level teams.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:56 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maryland was good…shawne merrimen and co…now they’ve built a reputation as “who the f- are these guys?”

As I said in my post below, I think Cal needs to carefully analyze their A, B, and C rankings

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 11:00 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maryland has had a stronger program than Minnesota this decade. I’d put them both as A- to B+ teams… not really challenging for BCS bowls, but not a B team from the MWC we should beat every year.

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 11:05 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but the Mtn West are “B” teams…

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure New Mexico and UNLV were looked at as C teams.

Honestly, I think it’s a stupid stat that gets thrown around, but still. ASU losing to UNLV and Zona losing to New Mexico were embarassing.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed. And, that UNLV loss was at home! Was New Mexico?

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no, that was a road loss, thank god.

though ’Zona lost to them last year at home, too.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:50 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF isn’t Stoops out of a job. They should have been at least 9-3 to finish the season.

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lowered expectations?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear that’s how you got married.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 11:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ZING

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I turned the ASU game off when they were up 20-10… driving and dominating every aspect of the game. I was so surprised reading the scores that night.

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m torn. As a season ticket holder, I don’t want to go to games against FCS opponents and I revel in the fact that the Pac-10, for the most part, schedules tough opponents. But, it without question puts us on an uneven playing field with the SEC.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actually, i think it’s the 9 conference games that puts us at a disadvantage.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That as well. Though, damn if that doesn’t make sense, especially when deciding the conference champion.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed. Conference games are retarded. Doubly so when they’re rematches.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

old article, but good points. Originally found via ragnarok’s link.

On Maryland:

With Tennessee and Minnesota this year and Michigan State and Maryland in 2008, "he’s a little bit more A-A-C,‘’ Holton said. The timing of the games can be critical. Maryland, possibly wary of Cal’s increasing stature, recently asked that the 2009 opener against the Bears be pushed back a week since Cal has a bye. Cal declined, not wanting to play Maryland and Minnesota in back-to-back weeks.

On Tenn vs Fresno St

ESPN, in particular, has taken an active role in getting nonconference teams together. It was ESPN, Coonan said, that got Cal and Tennessee interested in each other. "We already had Minnesota on the (2006) schedule, but Jeff’s not ducking anybody. He realizes the exposure of a game like that.‘’ Fresno State would quarrel with the no-ducking part of that statement. Cal hasn’t scheduled the ambitious Bulldogs since they beat Cal at Fresno 17-3 in 2000, during the disastrous regime of coach Tom Holmoe. FSU coach Pat Hill promises he’ll play anybody anywhere — e.g. Oct. 21 at LSU — and Berkeley is just three hours away. But if Cal is going to play an A school, it would prefer to play someone other than Fresno, even though it is Tedford’s alma mater. Part of the reason is that Cal has too much to lose and too little to gain by playing Fresno. "Four years ago, we could have brought in 30,000-40,000 Fresno fans,‘’ Holton said. "But now with our season-ticket sales, we’ve shrunk that (visitors’ allotment) down.‘’ He said, "Cal people will regard Tennessee as something special,’’ implying that they wouldn’t feel the same way about Fresno.

I think Tedford & Co need to carefully evaluate their A, B, and C rankings. Maryland, in national perception, is not an A. Neither is Minnesota. SEC/Big 12/good Big 10 teams are A teams. The Big East is a fine B+ game because they suck and a good team from the Big East will likely end up with a national ranking and a BCS bowl. The ACC is too risky and nobody likes them.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outside of a few elite schools, it’s often very difficult to know how good a BCS conference team will be in the 4-8 years in the future most games are scheduled.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 10, 2008 1:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure, but Minnesota and Maryland were never A, even when Maryland won the ACC (Minnesota maybe back in the fifties, but that’s a decent B game if you think of Tennessee as an A game).

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you have a far higher standard of an ‘A’ team than what Mr. Holton is talking about in the article.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 1:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is, each year he wants to play a school from the A list — a BCS-caliber team from a major conference.

Tennessee is the only team that is “BCS-caliber”, that is, of the caliber of making a BCS game on a year-in, year-out basis.

Michigan State? Maryland? Minnesota?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think all of this depends on your interpretation of ‘BCS-caliber’…

I don’t really interpret it as ‘on a year-in, year-out basis’… I interpret as an OoC game that pits Cal against a team that routinely finishes in the top portion of its BCS conference and has had a strong program with dedicated fans. Basically, a game that ESPN/ABC would like to pick up for its evening slot because both schools are good and fans of either conference could brag with a win.

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 2:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh, okay, I wasn’t aware it went like that.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, how many teams really challenge for a BCS spot year-in and -out recently. To me, that’s only SC, tOSU, Oklahoma, Va Tech (reflection of ACC), maybe Texas, maybe LSU,

Am I missing a team? This list can change so much in a few years too… What happened to Miami, Michigan, and FSU?

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 2:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Still, it’s the prestige factor I’m concerned with. Honestly, playing FSU this year would be more prestigious than playing Maryland.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed…prestige makes “L’s” not so bad and wins even better…

If we won at Maryland that would count for, say, +5 Youdashit points. Losing to Maryland counted for -10 Youdashit points. It’s not fair

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 2:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great, let’s become the new athletic directors at Cal.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We were probably going to get a bad rap no matter what because the conference had a down year… SC beat a BCS team that probably should’ve won its conference and got passed over because of other schools failing to beat MWC teams

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you think about it, Arizona and ASU stopped USC from making the title game.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:34 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pretty sure “BCS caliber” means “a team from a BCS conference not named Baylor/Vandy/Duke/Syracuse/Furd.” Not necessarily elite…

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 10, 2008 3:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno, if I see “BCS-caliber”, I think – good enough to make a BCS bowl.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve linked this page from our Front Page, BTW.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:42 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ohio State WAS on the schedule for 2012

They were trying to get out of it, not sure if they did or not…they scheduled us when we were at approximately the Youngstown State level

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by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They can’t pull out without penalty, can they?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There’s always financial penalties, but schools like Ohio State would have no trouble coming up with that kind of cash. I think it’s more that Sandy refused to accepts tOSU’s buyout.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:32 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if it was a big enough buyout

they might have balked at it anyway.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought this was Sandy’s doing. If not, that’s hilarious, thinking it was their C or D level game.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:54 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think they thought it was

going to be a fancy but regular occ game for them.

they try to do one fancy occ each year, texas a couple years ago, usc this year…otherwise, they don’t leave the state.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is the occ like the ACC? Or is it like Orange County County?

The Draddy Mack will make you jump jump

by Maharg on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That extra c is a typo.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As is the lack of an additional o.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 11:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so we’ll only get terrible teams @ home? Home/homes with only good teams?

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:24 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

what leverage does SDSU have to get us to come down there? If they say we won’t play you in Memorial if you don’t come down here, we’ll just move on to Davis, San Jose St, etc.

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by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fine, but no Division 1-AA teams. Please.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

but I don’t think Sandy Barbour does.

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by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 10:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

brb, lemme call her up and yell at her.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also, terrible teams can make more money playing a road game against a really good team than hosting a home game, and the good teams make more money by adding an extra game to the season-ticket package.

basically, more money for everyone if Cal-SD State is played in Berkeley.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but I’m guessing we’d like to at least have as many home games as away.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too risky for us fans

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you know what’s funny about that story? the main guy involved in the drug trade (and it was pretty much one main guy) got off with probation because the cops forgot to get a search warrant or something like that.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hahaha, wow:

“Attn faithful customers both myself and my associates will be in Vegas this coming weekend,” the 19-year-old student wrote in the text message. “So stock up, we will be back Sunday night.”

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think the Giants did that last year.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, he’s a dumbass, that’s for sure.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my other favorite part about that story

(and this is paraphrased second-hard hearsay)

reportedly, one of the students (majoring in law enforcement or some such), as he was being arrested, asked the officer “is this going to hurt my chances of working for Homeland Security?”

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 10, 2008 10:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah that was funny!

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Though seeing as it is DHS, it probably won’t.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice article on HOF voting by bruce jenkins
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/10/SPET14KP0O.DTL

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in clickable form

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Dec 10, 2008 10:38 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

I was really looking forward to some hawt Indian women in my DBD…

Rishi, don’t disappoint me tomorrow!

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bollywood’s Top Young Actresses

These hot babes are ready to rule!

They’re hot. They’re young. And they’re ready to rule.
We’re talking about Bollywood’s top young actresses, women in their 20s who look all set to take over the industry. A couple of them are on top already, and the rest are clearly raring to go.

Here’s a look at the top ten:

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 12:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Damn!!

I love Indian women… they’re all beautiful.

by danzig on Dec 10, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True story.

Except the ones at Berkeley don’t have the personality to go with it. Guess I’m going to have to go back to India to get married.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My ex had a great personality… Interestingly enough, she never hung out with any of the Indian chick cliques at Berkeley.

::Shakes head:: The one that got away…

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s the other part – most of the Indian girls I know at Cal were either Indus girls or ISA girls. Either way, there wasn’t enough – lack of personality, lack of attraction, etc.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't like the Indian clubs @ Berkeley

Which is why my non-Indian friends know more Indians than I do.. Kinda sad :(

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Dec 10, 2008 8:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I mean, they appeal to different demographics. I liked ISA when I was at Berkeley since they’re events were more culturally-oriented and less “let’s just get brown people together and get drunk”. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

by Rishi on Dec 11, 2008 9:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bo Almost Knows..

From Rivals:

From playing dominoes with some the Cal players to touring parts of the city with his family, W.J. Mouat (BC) Abbotsford student-athlete Boseko Lokombo took his first ever trip to the Bay Area over the weekend and said he enjoyed his experience.

Considered to be one of the top linebackers on the West Coast this recruiting season, Lokombo admitted to BearTerritory that he’s very close to making a decision on the college of his choice.

“It’s safe to say that I’ll make my decision really soon,” Lokombo said. “I’m thinking by the end of the month I will know my school.”

For some time now, it has been speculated that Cal and Oregon were the two schools that Lokombo was considering the most. Lokombo ended some of that speculation Tuesday evening when he confirmed that those two programs are “mostly” the two teams he’s looking at.

Bo Lokombo would definitely be one of our most athletic LB recruits. He needs to put on some weight, but with his frame, that shouldn’t be a problem.

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 11:02 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

canadian, eh?

I get distracted by the “True” chat ads…

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 11:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s gonna get confused, thinking a big stop on 2nd down will force the other team to punt.

by turkey on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If we have a Bak Bak and a Bo Lo, thatd be HUGE!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal vs. Washington Rewind on BI

Some good stuff in there.

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh Snap

Cal’s HC job is #6 behind UDub and Stanford according to the examiner.

I suppose this is better than when Tedford entered…but 6th feels low.

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 12:46 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note, this is written by essentially a USC blogger.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 12:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I were to take a stab at it:

10. Wazzu
9. Oregon State
8. Stanfurd
7. Arizona
6. Arizona State
5. Washington
4. Oregon
3. Cal
2. UCLA
1. USC

Numbers 2 through 4 are pretty interchangeable. UW and ASU are where they are because both programs have a history of at least moderately consistent success despite recent struggles. I put UW ahead because of it has a more impressive history and has the bigger name. Stanfurd is where it is because they have no fan base, the administration really doesn’t care, it’s hard to recruit top level athletes, and, ultimately, it is a stepping stone position.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 12:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i might even put ‘furd and zona lower…Riley’s had success

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 12:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah. True. And, they did have success for that year under Erickson. But, take away the coach and you have a small stadium, a school with at best average academics for the Pac-10, very little history, and for a lot of kids, probably not an ideal location.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 1:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good call…I didn’t know that.

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by carp on Dec 10, 2008 12:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can't read the article...

But is it talking about how good the jobs would be if they opened up right now? Or what?

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, pretty much. It seems as though the ranking isn’t just based on the here and now though. Because, if that’s the case, there is no way you could put UW or Furd ahead of Cal.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 1:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If all the coaches suddenly left today, it'd probably be:

1. USC
2. UCLA
3. Washington
4. Cal
5. Arizona State
6. Oregon
7. Arizona
8. Stanford (Academic requirements)
9. Wazzou
10. Oregon State – which makes whatever Mike Riley has done all the more impressive.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 1:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re probably right – I forgot about the Knight Nike fund.

Without that, then I’m right.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably

the Oregon stadium, locker room, and facilities count for a lot. And I think ASU is better draw because it’s probably easier for a coach to succeed there – weather, women, low academic standards, and I believe their facilities are pretty top notch too, but I could be wrong on that

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by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 2:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cal is a better job, being close to San Francisco and in the Bay Area.

The facilities are the sore point (well, and the hippies). ASU is in the middle of nowhere.

by Rishi on Dec 10, 2008 2:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, Cal is breaking ground pretty soon on what will be the best facilities in the conference, that has to count for something.

by BeastMode on Dec 10, 2008 2:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cha CHING $$$…

I hope we don’t get some sort of bad voodoo from the locals praying for the football team never to succeed

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it

by Thoroughbred on Dec 10, 2008 2:19 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly

in 4 years, this will change, but right now, we have a construction site

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by CBKWit on Dec 10, 2008 2:24 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs