USC Post Game Thoughts
Okay, I'm tired and drained. This loss takes a lot out of you, and it's worse when the fanbase is fighting amongst itself over Longshore vs. Riley... still. So excuse me if I keep this short.
The game was winnable. But we didn't win for various reasons:
(1) No running game. Best averaged 2.3 yards a carry. Our OL couldn't create big enough holes for Best. Credit USC too, those bastards played well.
(2) Penalties. We had 8 for 50 yards. Most were on offense and put the team in 1st and 15 situations. We shot ourselves in the foot. This was exactly what we needed to avoid to win the game.
(3) No passing game. No passing game was a product of spotty OL pass blocking, some drops, and some off-target passes. Our make-shift and young OL got beat fairly consistently.
Winning games is simple. Don't penalize yourself and execute. We couldn't do that and we made the game harder on ourselves to win.
So what else...
(4) Timeouts. Okay, I haven't looked at the game yet, but it's hard to tell if the offense had to take timeouts because of the QB or because Cignetti didn't get the play in on time. This usually goes un-noticed by most fans, but sometimes the QBs aren't at fault for having to take timeouts if the playclock is running low. Sometimes the OCs just can't get a play in on time and the QB has to take a timeout. This has happened before in previous games. Perhaps that's what happened this game.
(5) Defense kept the game winnable. Like I said in my previous post - this game came down to Cal offense versus USC defense. I wasn't worried about Cal's defense so much. I knew they'd keep us in the game. It was just a matter of the offense scoring. For the most part, they played admirably. Yes, they were missing some tackles, but let's stay grounded here - Johnson and Gable are shifty and elusive guys. They're not easy to tackle. They were making our guys look a little worse than they are.
(6) Screens. I know lots of fans hate them. But we were calling them to set up the fake-screen TD pass play. That's why you run screens - aside from relieving pressure on the QB against aggressive defenses.
(7) Negated TD pass. It sucks, but it was the right call. The refs said it was "ineligible receiver downfield" but then ABC news after the game said that the refs clarified it later and said it was "illegal formation." And yes, it was illegal. We had only 5 men (yes, five men, even though earlier I said 6) on the LOS. Only the offensive linemen were on the LOS. Ross, Boateng, and Tucker were all off the LOS. At least two of them needed to be on the LOS. Specifically Tucker, and either Ross or Boateng.
(8) Cignetti's playcalling seemed relatively fine to me. We passed the ball 31 times and rushed the ball 20 times. I know this isn't our usual gameplan but passing the ball is how you win against USC if your running game isn't working. Credit here has to be given to USC's players. They sniffed out screens really fast. They tackled well. They shut down running lanes. They maintained their gap assignments. They played really well. I know it's easy to say Cignetti sucks because our offense sucked, but USC's defense really made things incredibly hard for Cignetti and the offense. So I think the main reason for our offense not being effective is more because of USC rather than Cignetti.
(9) USC purposely trying to injure players. Tony touched on it in his post-game thoughts. I just want to say, that the one USC player who hit Riley late on one play drawing a roughing the passer penalty looked to do it on purpose. The ball was out, and he clearly was staring down Riley and shoved Riley to the ground well after the play as if to purposely rough Riley up. Seemed pretty obvious to me.
(10) Longshore. He was 11/15. He looked good at times, then bad at times. He got away with two INTs that were negated by penalties. The benefit of having Longshore in the game is that he usually has a good completion percentage. But the bad thing is that the few passes he doesn't complete too often seem to be INTs.
(11) Riley. He was 4/16. He definitely brought more life to the offense but let's be honest here - he wasn't that much better than Longshore if at all. He over threw some passes.
(12) Receivers limited the QBs. There were some drops of catchable balls. They negated a touchdown pass. They're green and there's not much else we can do about it but get them playing time. As they improve, so will our offense.
(13) Longshore vs. Riley. I guess I have to talk about it.
First, let's address why Longshore started instead of Riley. Riley missed Tuesday's practice. Riley was still feeling the effects of the concussion through Tuesday - and thus may not have been 100% (mentally) during the early week film sessions and gameplanning sessions. Longshore on the other hand wasn't all scramble-brained and thus probably had a better grasp on the gameplan and thus that's why he started.
Second, I was torn between Riley starting and protecting his health. I know Riley's mobility can give the defense more to defend, but at the same time I was nervous about Riley getting hit hard again and perhaps sustaining another concussion so soon after his first one. Concussions often take longer than a week to heal. If you sustain a second concussion before the first one 100% heals, well, your brain can start bleeding and you can die. So I was really hesitant and nervous to see Riley out there against a defense that is known for its big-hit mentality.
Third, is the QB controversy alive and well again? Well, I don't know. Our season isn't over yet so I don't want to hear about needing to play Riley since we have nothing left to play for (this shouldn't be understood as me saying we shouldn't play Riley at all, but merely that we shouldn't be saying that Riley should be playing since the season is over). The season is not over in the sense that we have nothing left to play for. We do have something to play for - it's the Holiday Bowl. I know a lot of us don't like it, but put your personal feelings aside, we can still get to the Holiday Bowl and it would be a great end to the season. Let's just play the guy who gives the team the best chance to win. Perhaps it's Riley, perhaps it's Longshore.
Our QB situation sucks - and it's not Tedford's fault. Tedford would love it if one guy could just really pull away from the other and consistently perform in the "A" game range. Neither is doing that. What more is there to say? We're lacking a dominant QB this year. Both have some good and some bad.
Final Thoughts:
Let's stay sane. Let's stop fighting with each other. Let's stop arguing about Longshore and Riley for the week.
Remember, most of us predicted an 8 or 9 win season. We're 6-3. We're on track for par. The sky is not falling. We were playing a great team today with our worst offense in the past few years. We can still make the Holiday Bowl and that would be a success for the season.
Let's rest, relax, recoup, and focus on Oregon State. Let's get along. Let's have a "truce" for the week. No Riley talk. No Longshore talk.
Go Bears!
0 recs |
121 comments
Comments
What worries me about next week...
is that Cal has been a piss poor road team this year. I hope the game OSU was the one we hoping for this week in that the whole team plays well and puts together a complete game.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
by Hey Bowles Hall! on Nov 9, 2008 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
But look who we’ve played on the road this year. Maryland, WSU, Arizona, and USC. Aside from WSU, the other three teams are all respectable teams. I don’t think our losses this year on the road are so much due to the fact that they are on the road but the fact that we’ve played the better teams on our schedule on the road.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you look at historically in the Tedford era
with the exception of the Oregon game last year, Cal hasn’t been able to beat the better teams on the road. Tedford hasn’t won in LA yet, and we lost at Tenn. in our OOC game 2 years ago. Hell, even Arizona in 2006 beat us on the road.
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
by Hey Bowles Hall! on Nov 9, 2008 8:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post
I’m pleased with their effort. I feared a blowout as many were predicting. Yes, Cal was penalized but that can happen when you play a crazy fast defense who has more talent than you. We nearly tied the game up and the score was 10-3 going into the final quarter.
I might also be the only Cal fan who likes both Longshore and Riley. I think Riley gets over-amped and tries to do to much this leads to decisions like what we saw at the end of the game at OSU last year (sorry), the overthrows, and the non-sliding while scrambling. I think he’s very talented and could be a great one in the future. I like Longshore’s audibles at the LOS and his ability to lead the team. His slow footed-ness is less of a problem because he usually seems to either throw the ball away or step up and take a hit. This year, perhaps in effort to win the gig, it seems like he throws the ball away less and perhaps forces some throws.
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
by carp on Nov 9, 2008 5:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In a side note, the biggest reason I'm looking forward to the Big Game
besides the fact that it’s the Big Game is that if Stanfurd loses to USC (which normally would be a sure fire thing but witness last year) they will need to beat us to be bowl eligible… that would be soooo sweet if we could be the reason why they don’t make it to a bowl this year…
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
by Hey Bowles Hall! on Nov 9, 2008 5:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Playcalling
The playcalling was interesting (and frustrating). USC was absolutely BEGGING us to pass the ball the entire 1st half. They consistently played cover 1 (OK, so maybe that’s all you need if you have a guy like Mays back there…) and left big gaps for receivers and seams for QBs. They had no respect for our passing game, none. I don’t think Cignetti took advantage of that until the 2nd quarter, when we finally completed an out (which took advantage of the soft DB technique on our slot receiver). But overall USC knew that they could put 8 (sometimes even 9!) defenders in the box without much risk.
It seemed like the playcalling really became more aggressive in the 2nd half. The plays were there! But our Bears just couldn’t take advantage of it. It reminded me so much of Texas Tech in ‘04—the playcalling (I still think) was good, but the players just couldn’t execute.
Longshore’s 2nd pick was just a horrible decision—he threw where there wasn’t a window (3 USC defenders, 1 Cal WR) and ignored the fact that he had numbers on the opposite side of the field. I thought he was just looking off the safety, but no he actually thew it there! I was so frustrated after that play! For a guy that understands the offense, I just don’t get why he would try to make that throw.
Not to say Riley was any better. As I mentioned, the playcalling really opened up in the 2nd half, and Riley tried to take advantage. But a good decision plus poor accuracy means bad result. The turning point of the game was the tipped INT in the endzone—I don’t think Riley saw the DB lurking in the throwing lane. The USC DB was playing far off of Boateng and gave up inside position pretty easily, so it makes me think Petey was luring Riley into trying to make that throw.
Overall such a frustrating offensive game to watch. I hope the Bears can pull it together for next week!
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 5:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think that a lot of folks are missing the fundamental issue with the offensive playcalling
On defense, Cal uses a 3-4 and, in general, does a really nice job of maximizing the talent of its players.
On offense, particularly against the Trojenz, the same problem is manifest that has been there all year: the coaches are NOT coaching to their players’ strengths/maximizing what is available to them. To wit:
1) If you are going to play Riley, then move him around, have him run the ball, etc. He is a very good quarterback on the move, not so good in the pocket because of his lack of accuracy. If you make him a pocket passer with playcalling, then there’s no point in having him in the game.
2) Get Jahvid more touches. He’s the one guy who can really hurt the Trojenz. If the run game isn’t there, then pass him the ball. This is a no-brainer, and I was stunned that Cignetti/Tedford did not do a better job with this.
3) More variety in the run calls. Will got ONE touch, and did great. Needs to get 3-4 touches. Riley, in the game, needs to run the ball (again, why have him in there if ya’ don’t). Run some misdirection. Run the damn counter pitch play that ALWAYS seems to work. Break tendency by running out of pass formations (and passing out of run formations).
And, as an aside, Hydro, you’re killing me by not touching on Tedford’s inability to use the challenge effectively. This shortcoming hurt in the Maryland game. It hurt again yesterday. He HAS to fix this, and use his damn challenges — especially on scoring plays. It would have changed the complexion of the game.
All of that being said, the Bears are getting better as the season progresses, and I am now very excited about the receiving corps of Tucker, Ross, and Boateng (not to mention adding Calvin to the mix next year) combined with Riley’s gradual improvement (he deserves a pass for yesterday). And the Bears still have an outside shot at the Rose Bowl if they win out, so there is absolutely no reason for anyone to hang his/her head yet.
by RickySanchez on Nov 9, 2008 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree to an extent...
Longshore probably could have hit some of those intermediate passes in the 2nd half, but that’s assuming he would have had the time to do it. I’m not so sure he would have. Not a knock on Longshore—it’s a knock on our depleted O-line.
But playcalling is more than just maximizing a player’s skill, it’s about exploiting the defense, trying to establish tempo and momentum, and setting up future plays. At this level, it’s pretty rare to totally physically dominate your opponent (though SC came close). So sometimes the plays need to take advantage of what is available and hopefully the players are good enough to execute it. It was maddening to watch SC continually play cover 1 (or less) on 1st and 2nd down, and have our passing game not be able to exploit it. The Bears were not good enough yesterday, unfortunately :(
My own side note: I can see where some of the SC fans’ criticism of Sark comes from. The plays are generally well-designed, but I really didn’t notice any amount of “setting up” future plays from SC. Their offense really just seemed like a mishmash of plays. Now, they’re really talented, so of course it works. But I wasn’t impressed with the creativity of the SC offense at all.
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
Since the departure of Norm Chow, I think the $C offense has been incredibly talented, but otherwise uninspiring. That is why — to me — they appear so maddeningly beatable. The gap between $C and Cal is now razor thin. Barring some bizaare ’07-like meltdown, the $C game at Memorial should be very fun next year.
by RickySanchez on Nov 9, 2008 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I should say
that I agree that one of our offense’s biggest tendencies is to run out of running formations and pass out of passing formations. That’s been going on for a few years now. Not sure why it’s happened, but it’s something that other teams can definitely key on.
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is something worth looking into. I’ll examine the game again and check it out.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh crap
now Hydro is going to review film and come back to say I’m full of it. I guess that’s an honor?
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 9:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to say you're full of it
But merely to see if you’re on to something.
A lot of fans have been complaining about playcalling lately. I can’t fully critique playcalling since you can’t see the WR routes on passing plays and I haven’t scouted USC, but you can see if there are formational tendencies or down and distance tendencies.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No worries Hydro
I’ll be interested in seeing the results as well.
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 10:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
do you think we'll ever see the video game view
as the #1 angle for football broadcasts? It would be awesome to have that perspective.
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
by carp on Nov 10, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot
…where I read it, but Carroll said that they purposely wanted to have a very conservative game plan considering CAL was creating a lot of turnovers.
by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 9, 2008 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that Cal and U$C were basically the same teams going in, only U$C was better. And then they played the same conservative game plan. Sanchez played better than expected. No big mistakes and a couple of nice throws.
It is interesting that Carroll chose the conservative no-lose approach against the aggressive approach because without running up the score, U$C can’t make the case of dominating a ranked team. U$C won but they didn’t help their BCS case.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 9, 2008 9:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
USC is very much alive for the BCS. Even if they don’t win the Pac-10 they will probably have a good shot at an at-large bid depending on the quality of their final three games. Right now the at-large contenders are
SEC Championship loser
Big 12 South runnerup
Utah & Boise State
If one of those teams loses an additional time, Trojans should be right in the hunt.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying our best chance to screw over the Trojans is by losing to Oregon State? Nah. Funny thing is that U$C is in the same position we were in in 2004 when we got screwed out of the Rose Bowl. It could happen that if OSU wins out and goes to the Rose Bowl that U$C could get shut out of the BCS regardless of how they do against Stanford, ND and UCLA.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 9, 2008 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1) If you are going to play Riley, then move him around, have him run the ball, etc. He is a very good quarterback on the move, not so good in the pocket because of his lack of accuracy. If you make him a pocket passer with playcalling, then there’s no point in having him in the game.
2) Get Jahvid more touches. He’s the one guy who can really hurt the Trojenz. If the run game isn’t there, then pass him the ball. This is a no-brainer, and I was stunned that Cignetti/Tedford did not do a better job with this.
3) More variety in the run calls. Will got ONE touch, and did great. Needs to get 3-4 touches. Riley, in the game, needs to run the ball (again, why have him in there if ya’ don’t). Run some misdirection. Run the damn counter pitch play that ALWAYS seems to work. Break tendency by running out of pass formations (and passing out of run formations).
And, as an aside, Hydro, you’re killing me by not touching on Tedford’s inability to use the challenge effectively. This shortcoming hurt in the Maryland game. It hurt again yesterday. He HAS to fix this, and use his damn challenges — especially on scoring plays. It would have changed the complexion of the game.
(1) I disagree about moving Riley around. Riley has gotten his name from scrambling – not from designed roll outs. There is a difference between ad libbing and designed rollouts. Tedford is not trying to make Riley a pocket passer either. Every QB will have to make throws on plays that aren’t designed rollouts – Riley is no exception. Perhaps the reason why Riley didn’t have many if any designed rolling pockets yesterday was because the coaching staff thought he didn’t need it since he has escapability. The reason why Longshore gets them is because of his limited escapability. But to force Riley to throw on the run can alter his mechanics and perhaps lower his accuracy. My main point is that I think many of us are confusing the scrambling Riley with a rolling out Riley. They are different. Just because Riley is a pretty good ad libber doesn’t mean he’s necessarily going to do just as well on designed rollout plays.
(2) Best didn’t get more touches because our run game wasn’t working. As for passing him the ball, our passing game wasn’t exactly the greatest. Best cannot do everything himself. I don’t think it’s so simple as getting Best the ball. What we really needed more of last night was better OL blocking.
(3) California Pete talked about this in a previous comment but he noted that fullbacks in the Tedford offense usually only get around 1-2 touches a game. And yes, Will did great on his run and breaking tackles after contact, but the main reason why he did well to begin with was OL blocking up front.
(4) Sure, Tedford has always been a conservative challenger – but USC’s touchdown was really fast. I’m not even sure they showed it on the replay screen last night for Tedford to see. Remember, he doesn’t always get the same great angles to see the play like we do from TV.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you seeing the same Riley I'm seeing?
1) Dating back to the Oregon State game last year, Riley has always looked good on the move, and mediocre in the pocket. Whether by design or ad lib is a moot point.
2) No excuse. He’s the best offensive player on the field. Have to get him at least 15 touches. It is that simple. And I think the criticism of the O line is a bit excessive. Outside of Oregon State, that is the best any O-line has looked against $C, particularly in pass protection.
3) And part of the reason why he did well is because it was a quick-hitting play that the $C defense clearly wasn’t keying on. Again, gotta mix things up, particularly against stout defenses.
4) No excuses. This is a major problem that he needs to correct. If ANY scoring play in a tight game looks fishy, you HAVE to challenge it. The challenge is there in the rule book. Gotta use it, or you’re not doing your job as a head coach. Again, that could have been the difference in the game. Frustrating that he didn’t seem to learn from the Maryland game. I do not think this is being over critical. It just requires a change in one’s thought process.
by RickySanchez on Nov 9, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I'm not seeing the same Riley you're seeing
(2) Best had 16 touches this game.
(3) It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on specifically what else could have been mixed up on offense. What specifically did the coaches fail to do? What should they have done instead?
(4) Again, I think the whole play happened really fast and it really did look like a catch. I personally can’t blame Tedford. Perhaps Tedford DID learn from the Maryland game but didn’t challenge because it really looked like a touchdown or he didn’t see the replay (if it was even shown). If you have suggestions for Tedford, Rickey, feel free to email Tedford. But you’re not going to convince me that Tedford should have challenged the play – not when I don’t know if Tedford even got to see a replay and since it happened so quickly.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The point Ricky’s trying to make is that Tedford should have a replay guy on his staff who takes a look in the booth immediately after it unfolds. As far as I know he relies solely on referee review—I haven’t seen him challenge plays directly without reviewing the stadium screen.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but how many of us thought that it truly wasn’t a catch after it first happened? I mean, not just thought “maybe he didn’t catch it.” But thought “I saw the ball hit the ground without a doubt!” Even if Tedford had a dude sitting somewhere with the game on TV to tell Tedford if he should have reviewed that play, I don’t think that would have helped Tedford since it wasn’t really shown until well after the play that it wasn’t caught.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but how many of us thought that it truly wasn’t a catch after it first happened?
Me! Me me me me me! Pick me!
I’m volunteering for the job Coach! Just give me your cell phone # and I’ll call you from my TV when you should challenge.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree, that catch looked good in real time and in multiple slow-mo angles. Even if Tedford wasn’t completely sure about the catch, it would have been hard to overturn, and I bet he thought it’d be better to save the challenge just in case there was a more obvious and harder-to-recover-from dispute later in the game.
Either way, our offense couldn’t get it done, and I don’t think challenging this play would have changed that.
by sec119 on Nov 9, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The first slowmo I immediately said "bobbled"
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 11:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you can clearly see the ball hit the ground.
by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 10, 2008 1:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, we lose 10-3.
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 10, 2008 7:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My question is, isn’t the replay boot supposedly reviewing every play, regardless of coaches’ challenges? That’s the rule, right? Where the hell were they? On a TD pass that was low with the receiver hitting the ground, wouldn’t checking for the ball be the first thing that you do? WHY DO WE ALWAYS GET FUCKED??
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Nov 10, 2008 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plagiarizing myself from a comment I posted on JO's blog
I find the replay rule extremely frustrating. EVERY touchdown should be reviewed from at least a couple different camera angles to verify that it’s a good play. There is absolutely no reason to rush the extra point; they could even have the TV timeout during this automatic replay period. The routine could be: (apparent touchdown), pause two minutes to verify replay and run commercials, extra point, kickoff. The game takes no longer to play, and it even gives coaches a bit more time to ponder a possible two-point conversion, which wouldn’t be a bad thing.
I’m not sure if a booth review would have overturned the first USC touchdown. It was close. But in a game that tight, it sure could have made a big difference. I also would like to see a replay of the called-back TD by Vereen. With Boateng’s adjustment before the snap, were the Bears really illegally lined up? Can we examine a photo and determine who truly was and was not on the LOS?
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 10, 2008 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Just imagine if we had lined up correctly, possibly 10 – 10, maybe some trickery at the end. You never know, look at Penn St.
by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 10, 2008 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take away that touchdown and the game changes completely. If they go into halftime 6-3 instead of 10-3 it’s a totally different game.
It’s times like this I wish they’d never discovered CougCenterium.
by Maharg on Nov 10, 2008 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s probably 6-3 in the 2nd half, so maybe Riley doesn’t throw into double coverage in the end zone.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 10, 2008 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it’s only 6-3, USC all of a sudden sucks!
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a big difference between 17-3 and 13-6 (or whatever the final score would have been depending on that one successful Riley drive)
by BearsNecessity on Nov 10, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In ’06 we were up at half…
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am harsh on the OL
Because I believe it all starts with them. If they can dominate with run blocking, a team can win a game without throwing the ball much. If they can pass block very well, then QBs will feel more comfortable and the WRs will have more time to get open. It all starts with the OL.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with Hydro.
We all knew going into this that we were basically playing our 2nd string OL (except Mack). They did not play very well. But it is a lot to expect young, inexperienced backups to play well against the best D in the nation on the road. So we have to be reasonable in our expectations.
With the exception of Mack, Morrah and Will, our starting offensive unit is very green, and they play like it. If we had the kind of offensive unit we’ve become used to, we could do a lot of damage with the way this defense is playing.
Proud sponsor of CougCenter Week.
by OskiMonsta on Nov 10, 2008 10:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The New Deal
Hydro, I was not overly disappointed. There were a lot of positives.
The Defense kept the game winnable.
The Offense kept the defense off the field.
Our best chance was winning the turnover battle and this almost worked.
We had a conservative game plan and stuck with it.
As I’ve said, I think OSU will find it difficult to score on Cal’s defense. I particularly liked the focus of the team in the face of a very tough opponent. I think that speaks well of our chances of winning out. 9-3 + Holiday Bowl = good year.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 9, 2008 5:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I’m disappointed even though there were positives. I’m mostly disappointed because we had opportunities to at least tie the game up but kept shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties, and just not making plays on offense that were there.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m with you Olsonist.
Our D played a great road game against a very dangerous, though underperforming offense. Nonetheless, they have been putting up 40+ a game, and we held them under half that. Lots of yards, but few points. That bodes well for OSU.
Proud sponsor of CougCenter Week.
by OskiMonsta on Nov 10, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually pretty light on this
Our chances to win this one were low. This isn’t like losing to Oregon State last year or Arizona in 2006. A winnable one, but once we started making mistakes it was over. It’s to our credit that the Trojans didn’t blow us out outgaining us 3 to 1 in total yards and 6 to 1 in rushing yards.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Losing to AZ hurt worse
Sure, I was sad, especially since we were in this game for so long, with so many chances. But I was SO happy the Defense did a great job. Our detractors all figured we’d be ‘exposed’ as not having a ‘real’ defense. Well we do have a real defense and they did real well. I can take that to the bank.
The offense was woeful, against a very good defense, and that hurt, that stung. We had many chances, and we blew many of them with penalties. A little bad luck (did the tipped endzone Riley pass have to be caught for an INT? Couldn’t it just have been an incompletion, oh football gods?), too, and we were underwater.
But it didn’t sting as much as the AZ loss. I think USC is very legitimately a top 5 or top 10 team, and we played them very very close. That’s good for Cal football. Look at their stable of running backs! The depth they have for recruiting – and we played them very close.
Don’t get me wrong, all of Sunday, I would start feeling good about life for this or that reason, then I would suddenly remember that we just lost, again to U$C, and I would get a knot in my stomach. But losing to a great team is better than losing to a mediocre team (and much better than taking a bad loss).
So let’s get hyped about pounding some Beaver next week, and take it as a ‘quality loss’. Shed only a few tears for missed Rose Bowl, and try to finish the season really strong – we need to for recruiting!
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 10, 2008 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and it bears mentioning
That the QB debating post game has been fairly light compared to earlier this season.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 6:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's true
although things were getting a bit heated in the 4th quarter thread last night.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Neither Longshore nor Riley cracked the nut of the USC defense. However, neither Riley nor Longshore melted down in the face of an extremely tough defense. This was especially so given that the run game couldn’t take pressure off the pass game.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 9, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That USC defense, especially the D-line…how did they lose to OSU again? and why won’t we lose to OSU?
by sec119 on Nov 9, 2008 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
turnovers
USC made lots of offensive mistakes at Oregon State, giving the Beavers a short field a couple of times. They also had a lot of trouble finding Quizz behind their much larger O-Line.
If we can take care of the football, I like our chances pretty well.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 9, 2008 7:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
basketball
Do still hate that the only meaningful touchdown in this game bounced like 5 times and yet wasn’t reviewed. Should be over it in 9 more months.
by need4jahvid on Nov 9, 2008 6:23 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One thing I noticed about Riley..
Sorry Seth and Olsonist I have to say this.
Riley is going to kill his receivers. His tendency to overthrow has caused our WRs and Morrah to jump high to catch it and when people like Malaluga or Cushing see that they salivate. This puts the WRs at a really dangerous spot and at a MUCH higher spot to get hurt seriously. Of course this also avoids INTs but it’s still not good…
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 7:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yeah...I wonder if he's just too amped up?
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
by carp on Nov 9, 2008 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Carson Palmer is the worst at this in the NFL
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 7:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it too, Roy. I guess I have no answer… None at all… I am no longer sure who should start at QB. I will leave that to Tedford from here on out. I give up. My bombastically pompous attitude towards the whole issue sickens me. I know nothing…
Go Bears.
"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."
John F. Kennedy
by CaliSeth on Nov 9, 2008 10:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be too hard on yourself, we’d all like to know the answers to these questions since we all want the Bears to win. And I’m sure it’s even more difficult for Tedford and co, despite or perhaps due to all the extra info they have.
by sec119 on Nov 9, 2008 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You just can’t win, can you, Seth?
What I like about Cal is that our drunken idiot fans use terms like “bombastically pompous.” I love you, Seth!
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No, I cannot… but perhaps the Bears can!?!
"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."
John F. Kennedy
by CaliSeth on Nov 10, 2008 12:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was trying to spell “a jerk” but he was so drunk it ended up as bombastically pompous
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 1:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 10, 2008 7:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple things you didn't address Hydro
[caveat is that I was at the game and did not have the benefit of replays or commentary]
1. I thought Mack had a pretty bad game. He looked responsible for a couple of illegal snaps (faking or stuttering with the snap), I think he also moved his shoulders on another snap causing a false start, and he had the bad snap when Jhavid was lined up as the QB. As the only “healthy; OLman and as the senior All-American on this team, he needed to "set the tone” and have a much better game. Disappointed in his performance.
2. The O-Line flat out got hammered (this is connected to your point of no running game, but I think it needs separate recognition). I know it’s not anyone’s fault because there are essentially 3rd stringers and people playing out of position, but they got their asses kicked by the USC D-Line. They were getting no space for the backs, and giving no time for the QBs to work.
3. Was Tedford slow on challenging Phantom Touchdown II. I know SC kicked the extra point quickly, but it sure looked like a bounce from the other end zone (where I was at essentially) so why didn’t Tedford get in a ref’s face to challenge? This was a huge play that should have been reversed.
4. I know the refs sucked both ways on calls, but it seemed that they had a directive to err on SC’s side on 50/50 calls. With Penn State losing earlier in the day, I think the PAC 10 had an agenda to get USC closer to the Nat’l Champ. game, as unlikely as that may be – but maybe I’m just pissed b/c every call seems to go against Cal’s way on the most critical plays.
Thoughts?
"You can have the alimony. But I want some pussy payments!" - Chris Rock
by oaktownmario on Nov 9, 2008 8:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
5. Although the D did it’s job by keeping it close, it was oh so frustrating that Gregory didn’t seem to adjust to the numerous play action roll outs to the left that SC kept using to convert 3rd downs. It was obvious by the 3rd quarter that Sanchez was not going to make long throws, yet the play action, roll out to the left kept working for 7, 15, 20 yards, with no adjustments by Gregory. I thought by the 3rd quarter he should have shadowed the TE and RB’s out of the backfield for tighter coverage, but no adjustment was made.
"You can have the alimony. But I want some pussy payments!" - Chris Rock
by oaktownmario on Nov 9, 2008 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cal hasn’t made adjustments for that misdirection roll out — backside post in about 4 seasons. It ALWAYS works against the Bears. If I were an opposing OC, I would probably run that on every play.
by RickySanchez on Nov 9, 2008 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad defenses have adjusted...
…too our own waggle play. Will T just doesn’t get the same yardage that Maderino used to.
MCCLESKEY!!
by Paulie on Nov 9, 2008 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But Will did have our best run of the game.
Proud sponsor of CougCenter Week.
by OskiMonsta on Nov 10, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it was the exact same play
that SC used to ice the game down the stretch last year. They’ve done it, what, 7 or 8 times against us the last two years and it’s worked every time. It’s frustrating on TV because you can’t see what’s going on in the secondary – so, people who were there, what’s going on?
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Nov 10, 2008 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
response to Oaktown
(1) Yeah, Mack drew 2-3 penalties himself. Not a great game based on that. I haven’t rewatched the game yet so I’m not sure I can comment on his individual blocking but the penalties weren’t helping us.
(2) Yes, the OL got fairly dominated last night. I actually think they were doing better in pass protection rather than run blocking but overall it wasn’t great.
(3) Tedford slow to challenge the phantom touchdown? Perhaps the phantom touchdown was just too fast. I’m not even sure Tedford had a chance to see it on the replay screen if they even showed it. Tedford doesn’t have all the great views we see from TV so I don’t really blame him there.
(4) Refs sucking? I don’t think they were that bad. The only call I disagree with was the phantom touchdown but that was a touch call. It was hard to see in real speed.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mack blocked well
but he seemed oddly jittery…
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They did show it on the replay screen
and JT had to be quick IF that’s the only thing he saw. But to the naked eye from the other end of the field, it looked like the ball bounced to me.
If there was any doubt, JT could have engaged a ref early on – “hey, didn’t that ball bounce? You guys should take a look at that.” Then when he gets a call from some one “upstairs” he says OK we’re challenging without then having to get the ref’s attention. I don’t know, i know it was a fast extra point, but I thought JT blew it.
"You can have the alimony. But I want some pussy payments!" - Chris Rock
by oaktownmario on Nov 9, 2008 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps I just missed it then. If you can see from the other side of the stadium that it truly looked like the ball hit the ground then I guess I just missed it. If it was that obvious then yes, Tedford should have challenged but who knows what he saw.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying I was 100% positive at the time, but as soon as he caught it I told my buddy
“Man, that ball may have bounced. Tedford should ask the refs about it.” The replay at the stadium showed it bounced and Carrol quickly got the extra point in. I imagine Tedford had a better view, but maybe it was obstructed by a player.
And contrary to others, I think that would have made a difference in the way the game was played. Maybe USC scores on the next play, maybe they turn it over, or maybe it’s just a FG, but it could have made a difference.
"You can have the alimony. But I want some pussy payments!" - Chris Rock
by oaktownmario on Nov 9, 2008 10:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the refs called back to interceptions, it wasnt that bad for Cal on the penalit.es
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The one was an obvious PI
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, but the “Shoving The Passer” penalty ended poorly for USC.
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everson Griffen
I believe that the player you’re referring to in item 9 was Everson Griffen. While the Conquest Chronicles game thread is less populated that CBG, we wanted him benched for the rest of the game for that hit on Riley. Cheap and stupid.
by DC Trojan on Nov 9, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
STOP HAVING CLASS. STOP IT. PLEASE. I’M BEGGING YOU!
YOU SHOULD BE ROOTING ON THE EVIL PLAYS. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, don't worry about it
much better than the trojan d line trying to rip off Echemandu’s balls in the 2003 game.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Nov 10, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And destroy Chase Lyman’s knee
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yes, the tackle and twist of the surgically repaired knee, circa 2004
I had forgotten about that
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Nov 10, 2008 10:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Echemandu's balls
They weren’t trying to tear off his balls – that’s very suspicious minded of you. If memory serves, he had collected their collective ass to hand back to them on a platter later, and they couldn’t quite reach to get it back – an aim issue, in other words.
Lyman’s knee – if you say so, I didn’t see that game.
by DC Trojan on Nov 10, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't credit USC for the screen pass protection...
Every single team we’ve played so far has sniffed it out without any trouble.
by elbarto83 on Nov 9, 2008 8:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would like to apologize for my combative language last night. It was a tough loss to take and I think it upset everyone. If I launched any personal attacks, please accept my sincere apology. After skimming through the game again today (sober) it is obvious Kevin had a really rough game. Nate was also having a rough game. I think it is safe to say both QB’s have some serious issues. I am done arguing Nate v Kevin. Whomever Coach Tedford goes with from now on is fine with me. I still hope we make it to the Holiday Bowl, but even if we don’t, things could always be worse… Just look at poor o’l Tennessee, LOL.
"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."
John F. Kennedy
by CaliSeth on Nov 9, 2008 8:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
give credit where it is due
Our D played very well. Yes, Carroll was conservative and made sure that Sanchez didn’t throw any picks (although the one Worrell dropped could have been a game changer), yes Syd whiffed on a bunch of tackles, yes we gave up big chunks of yardage several times on 1st and 3rd downs, but they kept us in the game. Giving up 17 to SC is more than acceptable, but we will not win any game when we score only three points.
The mistakes on offense – especially the untimely penalties, interceptions turned over by SC penalties, hanging our receivers out to dry on high and/or late throws – made it virtually impossible to win. And it is amazing how big and fast the SC guys are. They filled all the gaps and closed on all the floated passes, outside runs, and screen passes with blinding speed.
We were absolutely dominated by their defense, but they made enough stupid mistakes to keep us in it until late.
The good news? We get SC at home next year in October instead of November.
by 1988goldenbear on Nov 9, 2008 9:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I just realized I lost my fantasy matchup with Hydrotech by 4 points
And I gave back all my college football winnings today when I lost EVERY SINGLE FOOTBALL BET I made today.
For some reason these things bother me more than Cal’s performance yesterday. I think this is a bad thing.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 9:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tough...
I took Cal and the under and KC!…. I don’t mean to rub it in =D
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that IS a bad thing!
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 1:25 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for Hydro
Appreciate all the work you do! At the same time I m curious to know your football background. What is the highest level you played, do you have coaching experience, or is this madden-based knowledge? Not trying to be sarcastic/condenscending – just trying to figure out where your knowledge is coming from.
Keep up the good work!
by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 9, 2008 10:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was the waterboy
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 10:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Water Technician. Hmph!
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You sure do ask a lot of questions, Swish. Would you like my date of birth and credit card numbers too?
Surprisingly, you’re only like the second person to ask me these questions.
I’m a relatively private person, so I don’t like to give out a lot of info – although perhaps Olsonist already knows my identity since he can apparently figure out strippers’ stage names. So please excuse me if I refrain from answering all your questions.
But for the most part – I’m one of you guys. I am a “student.” On home game Saturdays, you’ll find me in the student section whether I belong there or not. Thus, I’m probably not old enough to have coached. As for what level of football I’ve played, I think it’s safe to say I probably haven’t played on Sundays. As for this whole water boy talk, I’m not quite sure where that came from although I suspect it’s because my handle does have the prefix “hydro.”
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 9, 2008 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shush it you.
You were the hydro technician for the Cal football team. Don’t lie
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 11:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That Wario costume is pretty half-assed
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
by yellow fever on Nov 10, 2008 6:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hydro was one of the finest waterboys that Cal ever saw. He would make sure that his water bottles made it to their designated players. He was incredibly smart and knew the field well. Sometimes if an opposing player pressured him for water, instead of giving it over, he’d just throw the bottle away.
Very good at throwing the bottle away. Of course, he had a nasty habit on the road of giving water to the wrong player late in the game. Killer, killer thing to do!
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 10, 2008 7:51 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
A younger, less-Mormon waterboy battled him for sideline time in his final season even though he had led a powerful water-dispensing group the two years prior. Much debate arose from his benching, but Hydro always stuck it out, making sure his water was fresh and drinkable even while he was 2nd-string water technician.
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2008 8:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No longer the fan favorite, not the golden boy of years gone by, Hydro kept the pain hidden deep inside. But he was always ready to step in, always wanting to help the team that didn’t seem to need him anymore.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 10, 2008 8:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Hydro ever refresh our good ol’ Oski?
by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 10, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Omi-freaking-gosh-sakes!
That’s some pretty funny sh_t fellas!
And please, be kind and tie-this-gleeful-tale up. Make it come to a rousing conclusion! Perhaps a nefarious painkiller addiction in his drum and glum days of being 2nd stringer? Or an overzealous mastering of water bottle tricks . . . .gone array? Or a salacious tryst with a psoriasis-infected fat-girl equipment manager in the coaches office one unforgotten rainy post-game night?
I really don’t care how or where the poor m-fer ends up, I wanna hear his drama. His epic drama . . . . . of being named Hydro Tech!
"Surround yourself with people who can't live without football" - 1st tenet of 3 for Bear Bryant's 3 Rules of Coaching . . . . .
by BixBeiderbecke on Nov 12, 2008 1:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All I asked is where your football knowledge comes from.
If that is private information I apologize. I’m not intent on finding out your identity, but seeing how you seemed to get pissed off over a simple question I’ll refrain from asking you any further questions.
by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 10, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Swish, I was just joking with the whole credit card stuff. I’m not pissed off. I’m sorry if you thought so. Where does my football knowledge come from? TV, internet, books.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by HydroTech on Nov 10, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And me. I provide almost all of his information to him.
It’s times like this I wish they’d never discovered CougCenterium.
by Maharg on Nov 10, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hydro has also been know to contemplate the Pearl of Great Price in order to divine the meaning of certain of Longshore’s plays.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 10, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I played strong side OLB in high school and backup at the JUCO level and I can only speak from my experience, but playing ball doesn’t necessarily count for much. There are a lot of guys out there who have never played a down of football but are true students of the game. In my experience talking with these guys, they know as much as anybody who actually played. Sometimes Hydro, for example, pulls out stuff that even I didn’t know about. I don’t care whether Hydro played or not, he knows his sh*t, inside and out. The only advantage having played gives you is insight to the emotional, moral, team dynamics aspect. That, I think, you may not be able to fully appreciate if you have not played before. But in terms of strategy, design, schemes, etc, guys like Hydro get my respect cause they are careful studies of the game.
by SonofCalifornia on Nov 10, 2008 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oops, that’s ‘morale’ not ‘moral.’ i don’t know a thing about a team’s morality, ha ha.
by SonofCalifornia on Nov 10, 2008 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
HydroTech has asthma, a back brace, and painful painful acne. He’s never seen the sun, let alone played a down of football.
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Nov 10, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, pasty white guy eh? that’s a shame.
by SonofCalifornia on Nov 10, 2008 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was Mario from that picture posted?
by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 10, 2008 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
question....
was longshore injured for the second half? or just replaced?
it seems that Riley was even further off of his passing game than in the past, when tedford went to longshore.
all in all, the game met my expectations. solid play by us that we fuck up with untimely mistakes, that they capitolize on. Mistakes against good teams kill you every time.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Nov 10, 2008 8:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
From the SFGate:
Tedford decided to go with Riley in the second half.
“We felt like the pass rush was pretty heated and thought maybe Kevin could make some plays with his legs,” Tedford said. “I didn’t think Nate was playing that poorly. We went toe-to-toe with a very good football team.”
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 10, 2008 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no running game
pretty much equates to a L in any football game
by ultraseven on Nov 10, 2008 1:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Regarding the Holiday Bowl...
I’d be happy to make it there this year, not only because it would exceed my preseason expectations for this young team, but because we have a real chance at playing a solid Oklahoma St. or Missouri teams. (maybe even Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas Tech?) Should be a great game.
by SonofCalifornia on Nov 10, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I concur. I'd take any bowl but the Sun bowl.
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want love on the rocks in El Paso?
by BearsNecessity on Nov 10, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly, I prefer my intimate moments not to be viewed by all of ESPN…
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re in luck. The game’s on CBS.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 10, 2008 2:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure it would be Top 10 material, though
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

by 
























