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Immediate USC Post Game Thoughts Thread

Put your post-game thoughts here.

This game came down to Cal's offense versus USC's defense.  Our defense kept the game winnable for 3.75 quarters.  Our offense just needed to score. 

As back breaking as the ineligible receiver penalty was - I think it was the right call.  It looked like Boateng and Ross messed up their alignment.  Boateng covered up Ross, and when Ross went down field, well, that was that. 

On the other hand, the phantom penalty was obviously an incorrect call.  Perhaps USC would have scored later on, perhaps not.  We'll never know.

But what we did do, was help ourselves lose the game.  We had 8 penalties for 50 yards.  Many of those penalties were on offense.  False start.  Holding.  False start.  Holding.  The list goes on.  We shot ourselves in the foot with a machine gun tonight.  We were fighting with one foot on offense.  It was ugly. 

Longshore was just okay.  He had a good completion percentage (11/15) but he threw 2 would-be INTs. 

Riley on the other hand, well, he didn't do any better.  He certainly gave more life to the offense and made USC's defense watch out for his running ability but he went into overthrow-athon mode tonight.  Quite a few throws were over thrown.  A few were dropped, a few were off target.  In general, neither QB was great.

Our OL played pretty poorly.  We had no running game.  The QBs were pressured...

Ugly all around on offense.

Well, let's stay sane.  This wasn't wholly unexpected.  This game was closer than Vegas thought it would be - we all knew that it would be. 

But the game really came down to Cal's offense versus USC's defense.  USC's defense won.

 

ADDENDUM

Apparently the "ineligible receiver downfield" was really an "illegal formation" penalty.  I concur.

Cal only had 6 men on the LOS.  Boateng and Ross were off the LOS (one of them should have been on the LOS), and thus Cal only had 6 men on the LOS.

Although it looked like Boateng got up on the LOS - he didn't do so prior to the snap.

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easy

inept offense, solid defense that finally caved because our offense couldn’t move the ball.

“L”

We should all pray Pete Carroll will get run over by a 18 wheeler for CAL to win.

by ultraseven on Nov 8, 2008 8:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think the Riley is better than Longshore meme

Should die. Both quarterbacks were horribly below average. Neither were good. Neither gave us a chance to jack squat.

by LeonPowe on Nov 8, 2008 8:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

er

neither gave us a chance to DO jack squat.

by LeonPowe on Nov 8, 2008 8:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No no, according to many of the fans here. Only Longshore could have won the game for us. Surely they know what they are talking about. Surely Longshore is the best Cal QB ever!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

STFU. They both suck.

by BeastMode on Nov 8, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Way to go smart guy! Calling our QB of the future a POS is really positive thinking. Damn, you are really a great guy! YEAH!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t see Mansion, Bridgford, or Sweeney mentioned ANYWHERE! What are you talking about? XD

by BleedinBlue on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, here’s your positive spin: It didn’t matter who the hell we started, both guys have equal strengths but in different areas. Happy?

by BeastMode on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s stay calm, guys. The whole offense played like crap. Let’s not just pin this on Longshore or Riley. Neither QB played great, and neither did the entire offense.

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by HydroTech on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Still lots of drops, lots of bad routes. Not recognizing blitzes. False starts. AND, poor QB play.

by BeastMode on Nov 8, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

not the WHOLE offense

Tucker had a suhWEET game.

The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die

by Calfan on Nov 9, 2008 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mommy, daddy, stop, please stop!

by BleedinBlue on Nov 8, 2008 8:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the entire offensive squat

needs to go back to basics and learn how to pass, catch, and block, and perhaps suck a lollipop. I only hope most of the key players on D will stay next year.

by ultraseven on Nov 8, 2008 8:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm OK with the loss but...

Will this damage Cal’s psyche for the next several games? I don’t want to see a repeat of last year where the team folded after losing to OSU.

by Tizoc on Nov 8, 2008 8:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nah. I have Big Game tickets. It’s impossible.

Regardless of how anemic our offense was this game our D played spectacularly. I’m sure our O can do enough, and our D can score some TD’s too, for the last 3 games.

by BleedinBlue on Nov 8, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, it was the 1st and 20s which totally murdered us

And some inaccurate throws to open receivers

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Riley is the future. Period.

I challenge anyone to say otherwise. I’m waiting…

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no no no, Beau Sweeney

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by HydroTech on Nov 8, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

scratch that

It’s all about Bridgeford

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by HydroTech on Nov 8, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. Maybe. Look, I hate to argue. We lost, OK? We lost this game. Blaming it on Riley is beyond Laughable. It is contemptible!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And not recognizing Riley’s flaws are just as bad as Longshore’s is laughable.

by BeastMode on Nov 8, 2008 8:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I give up. I feel like shit. What do you want me to do? We lost. Period. We lost this game. We have to try to pick up the pieces and move on. While not waving a flag of surrender, I am offering détente.

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I just really wanted this. We all did. Nothing we can actually do. Let’s just hope they pick up the pieces, and our receivers and Riley improve. We still have a Holiday Bowl in our sights.

by BeastMode on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think we played just well enough to win.

Two bad calls separated this from a 10-6 Cal lead going into the 4th. Just too many mental mistakes all over the place. Cignetti’s got some ’splainin to do.

Oh, and our O-line inexperience finally cost us.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 8, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think you hit the nail on the head. The false starts and other penalties plus sacks were pretty much on the O-line. Ah well, maybe next year.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

if everything went our way (nd many things did) we could have won. But plain and simple, we got outplayed.

by Moscow Doug on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We out-penalized ourselves for the loss

I think Riley will get better with experience. I’m definitely not giving up on him. Just show up for us next week kid; our D will keep us in it!

This was Riley’s first half at the Coliseum… it was daunting I imagine

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

help

I’ve lived in Russia for more than 3 years, and I’m moving back to the states on Nov 20th. I want to go to the Big Game, and there are apparently tix available. But I went to the Cal website and they wanted $66!!! Seriously? Is that what tix cost now? Or should I try to get a scalper at Shattuck BART?

by Moscow Doug on Nov 8, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Since it is in Berkeley this year, you may have to pay that. Last year at the farm it was a graveyard.

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

In Soviet Russia, tickets buy you

Your 2008 Athletics: It's Nothing Personal.

by PaulThomas on Nov 8, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s pretty close to what the true price is. The season tix were $300 or so, and if you consider supply/demand for the Big Game vs. the other games, that sounds about right.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 9:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THE COVER AND THE UNDER FOR THE WIN!!!!

We played admirably against ‘TEH BEST DEFENZ EVAIR’ … Let’s win out with some pride!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:37 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

we need a different mentality

it’s not “protect riley”, its do what it takes to win. riley was cleared before the game…START HIM!!! Longshore is crap…and Cal lost this because of coaching decisions. Not to start riley, and not to request replay on sc’s touchdown at the end of the half. concussion are recoverable. start your best players. end your caution. don’t get too sensitive on me bears….

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 8:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is just silly. Riley had plenty of chances the second half, and he failed to capitalize. While I’m not blaming the loss on him, to pin this on coaching suggests that Riley didn’t have an opportunity to win the game, when it’s quite clear he did.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 8:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, I would respond, but I am already too beaten down by the rest of the Longshore lovers. So you’re right! It’s all Rileys fault! HE SHOULD HAVE WON THE GAME!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, take this play off, CaliSeth. Maybe take the whole night off.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm Gone.

Keep up the Riley bashing! You guys are doing a great job!

Ciao!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks! I’ve been working on my Riley bashing all day long.

My newest claim: “President Obama shouldn’ts it down with Riley without preconditions!”

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 8:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Phantom Touchdown II

Wow! Two phantom touchdown victories for $C now.
First of all, I’m very proud of how the Bears played tonight. Our defense won against their offense, and looked absolutely great. Kudos to Bob Gregory AGAIN. AND, Cal won the special teams matchup as well. To blame Riley for the loss is just plain stupid. Totally agree with the decision to start Longshore (based on preparation) and start Riley 3rd quarter — he made things happen. Again, again, AGAIN this loss belongs at the feet of the offensive coaching staff (including Tedford):
1) Tedford just hasn’t figured out how to use the challenge (basically, he sucks at it and needs to correct it). This is not just a one time thing, this is a pattern. On a scoring play like that, pull the trigger on the damn challenge!!!!!!! Notice how Carroll doesn’t have this same problem. (That being said, I think Tedford will improve on this)
2) I’ve basically said this a bazillion times this year, but to make Riley a pocket passer is just plain stupid, and that’s what Cal did with its play calling in the second half. If you’re gonna do that, ya’ might as well leave Longshore in the game.
3) Not enough touches for Jahvid. If the run game isn’t working, then throw him the ball.
Go Bears!!! The players have nothing to hang their heads about.

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Run game not working b/c of O-line. Some of the sacks were pseudo-sacks b/c of coverage and/or bad decision-making. Regardless, the USC D-line came to play and we couldn’t do anything about it.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

Run game not working because of 1) too many 1st and 15 and 1st and 20’s, and
2) Not enough variety in play calling (gotta use the counter pitch play; gotta get Will more touches; gotta get designed runs for Riley).
The O-line was solid against a phenomenal front 7. Pass protection was outstanding. Jahvid came one finger tackle away from breaking one at the LOS.

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:03 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All those 1st and 15’s or 1st and 20’s? They came b/c of false start’s and holding’s on the O-line. That’s why I say the O-line had the most responsibility for the loss in the game.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 9:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

But didn’t seem like Cal had any more stupid penalties like that than the usual. Just seemed like the officials called holding a little more than usual (on any given play ….)

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which...

Did you see the hold on Hagan on $C’s 2nd touchdown that they missed???

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

At that point, I was too depressed to pay detailed attention. We always play USC close, but we can’t finish. Always the bridesmaid, never the bride.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 9:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ain't that the truth, brother

At least I didn’t make the mistake of watching this in a sports bar with $C fans per usual. (I feel for ya’, Twist…)

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I specifically say that I’m not blaming the loss on him. Your response speaks for itself.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 8:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Despite the loss, I’m proud of this team. They kept it close for nearly the entire game. Our defense kept trying to hand us the game on a platter, but we’d drop the platter or have the platter thrown a little too far over our heads. Our offense played how we all expected them to play against one of the nation’s top defenses: inconsistently. Both QBs had their chances and neither could really do anything with it. Of all our losses so far this season, for me, this one stings the least.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 8, 2008 8:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

AGREED

Arizona stings much much more.

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BENCH RILEY!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's all his fault! He ALONE lost this game! I knew Cal grads were smart, but you've proven it tonight!

"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."

John F. Kennedy

by CaliSeth on Nov 8, 2008 8:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Often times when my parents fight it starts like this:

Mom" We should do A."
Dad “We should do B.”

Then they fight for a bit and then become sarcastic and bitter and start going:

Mom " We should do B. I didnt want to do anything important today, anyway. Lets do B."
Dad “No, lets do A. You want to do A. Why do I have any power in this? A it is.”

Seth, do you want to be my parents? You have a cohice in all this. You have a choice.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 8:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. It’s like we lead identical lives.

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by 408 on Nov 8, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you my dad?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 9:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, then, how come you want to do B so much?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched it at a local sporting bar. It was fun, but hte loss sucked.

Of curse, USC fans being as they are 2 harassed me on the way out. As I turned to leave one girl said “Are you happy for the USC win?” I said “Yes, even thouhg I wore my Cal hat and Cal jersey, I was, of course, rooting for USC to win. I don’t know why I wore all this Cal stuff even though Im a USC fan.”

And then on the way out I looked n the directions of a USC fan and then turned to say Bye to a friend. The USC fan, apparently thinking I was trying to dodge him, said “I see you over there! You cant hide from me!” Luckily, we were walking the EXACT SAME DIRECTION HOME! Ai! Awkward!

I tried to laugh it off, but found out that a)hes happy he didnt go to Cal bc he doesnt want to be a hippie and b)Berkeley girls are ugly. I was going to mock his girlfriend, but she, trying to root on USC and yelled “GO UC!” It was more than enough to keep me from jumping in.

I would have been a LOT better with thia loss if I wasnt harassed by all these fans on the way out, merely minding my own business.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 8:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

a loss against sc stings the least...

i disagree…raise your expectations!!! we determined our own destiny!!! stop sounding like the hilary clinton of the sports world! fat, ugly, and complaining! let’s win!

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

STOP THIS STUPID RILEY vs. LONGSHORE SHIT...

It’s hard to do anything with 1st and 20s… Penalties murdered us.

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

proud of the team?

There’s no moral victory. It’s a loss, a “L”. It doesn’t matter how or where.

With that said, the D played well and I’m sure everyone tried hard. But the offense just isn’t good to beat any better defenses in D-1 level right now.

by ultraseven on Nov 8, 2008 8:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We'll get there...

Of course this loss sucks hard, but it’s done with. Let’s rebound against some Beaver

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the team could use little more than some Beaver right now.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 8, 2008 8:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It has already. I love Beaver!

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d cuz its time for Beaver Week

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by 408 on Nov 8, 2008 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

carp's resisting the temptation to post NSFW pics

Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.

by carp on Nov 9, 2008 6:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you, Carp.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 7:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

link link link

fap fap fap

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by CBKWit on Nov 9, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 7:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I am a beaver beater believer

by CountDuku on Nov 9, 2008 11:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

1959...

just became further away…

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 8:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I hate you

Today is HATE day for me. I learned to hate USC A LOT. And I hate you

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 12:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

msu, ucla, and oregon all have something to say if you say our offense is really that bad

and next week is next week, another chance for PAIN TRAIN

by WilltheBear on Nov 8, 2008 8:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

i love it...bruins nation should pay attention

they’ll justify their self-worth by winning another women’s water polo NC

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 8:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

6-3

Right on track for 8-4. I’m happy to be right.

Also had the under. Never been less happy to make money off a Cal game.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 8, 2008 8:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Let me rephrase that: I’m satisfied with that record considering it’s supposed to be a rebuilding year.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 8, 2008 8:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

With our D

This is rebuilding?

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 8:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention, I’m cautiously optimistic about our defense next year as well, with the emergence of underclassmen at all the positions.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 10:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We get everyone back on the DLine and Secondary

They trick is going to be the linebackers. Mohamed and Young are solid, Kendricks is playing as a true frosh, DJ Holt and Devin Bishop will be in there…if they can just be good (not great like this year), we’ll be in great shape on D.

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by CBKWit on Nov 9, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If NCAA 09 has taught me anything

Mohammed the Prophet, Holt, and Kendricks are MONSTERS as LBs. Even better than Follet and co.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 7:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Other things NCAA 09 has taught me: when people run they take stutter steps every four yards. And a cornerback covering a receiver will just stand there when a ball is passed his way if his ‘awareness’ is low.

by sec119 on Nov 9, 2008 7:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

the defense played great tonight,but

the defensive backs missed a lot of open field tackles that went for big gains.

by GreekBear39 on Nov 8, 2008 9:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

just got back from the game

I’m a current u$c grad student, but a Bear fan through and through (class of 2005). wore my “still no Stanfurdium” shirt in the sc student section. no problem there, luckily.

boy, did we have chances. the TD called back due to ineligible receiver/illegal formation, and the tipped pass for an INT in the end zone.

our defense played well, all things considered. before the game, I predicted that it would come down to whether our offense could score against usc’s defense. sadly, they couldn’t, and we lost.

by the federer express on Nov 8, 2008 9:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The worst thing about this game

is that I’m going to have those two repetitive USC fight songs stuck in my head for the next week. 3 hours of listening to that is inhumane.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 8, 2008 9:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

seriously

the usc marching band has gotta be the most obnoxious band in the country

by the federer express on Nov 8, 2008 9:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

berelium97

you deserve it for having such a passive attitude….riley was cleared to play!!! Don’t worry about his head!

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 9:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

what happened with usc's first touchdown?

did it look like it should have been disputed?

by the federer express on Nov 8, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but it wasn’t…

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 9:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

meanwhile carroll disputed everything...

that’s a coaching (up in the booth)error

by oski4u on Nov 8, 2008 9:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

They haven’t talked about the $C game yet. Just their general mediocrity and stat quoting.

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rece Davis:

“USC got pushed,,, by the sturdy Golden Bears…”

I just heard

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 9:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If somehow we could've combined 2006 O with 2008 D

I can only imagine…. As Twist would say, Triple Le Sigh….

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 9:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Cal failed to make game-winning plays on all sides of the ball

As good as the defense played, they failed to make the play(s) Cal needed to win the ball game. Obviously, so did the offense. How different this game would have been had Williams made that pick, or had Boateng not covered up Ross. The Bears came out the better team in the 3rd quarter and should have taken control of the game. But once again, they didn’t.

If we philosophically dismiss this season as a “rebuilding” year, then we’ve got nothing to complain about, especially if the Bears can win at least two of their last three—as they should. But it is still so very, very, very frustrating to lose to USC, yet again, in the same sort of excruciatingly painful way that we’ve lived through the last five seasons. Five!!

There’s definitely a lot of reason for optimism for 2009. Hopefully the Bears will have good fortune on the injury front next year so that an efficient offensive unit can gel. But this year, combine a new offensive coordinator—the third new one in three years—with absolutely no continuity in personnel week to week at receiver, offensive line, AND quarterback, and you’ve got a recipe for a very inconsistent, mistake-prone offense. Especially when matched against SC’s defense.

I love living in Los Angeles, but it’s going to be sheer hell for the next month listening to Trojans fans whine about how they should be playing in the National Championship game. No you shouldn’t. You blew your chance up in Corvallis, and your team makes far too many mistakes. The penalties almost killed you again tonight. I’ll still be pulling for you to win out, though, so you can bag a trip to the Fiesta Bowl, bring in some extra $$ for the conference, and open up a possible Holiday Bowl spot for the Bears. Sorry, Trojan fans, but the Beavs are going to Pasadena. Good for them.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 8, 2008 9:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

OSU does not beat Cal, @Zona, Oregon

I don’t see it at all.

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 9:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The game in Tucson will definitely be a difficult challenge for the Beavers. But let’s face it: OSU has probably the top two playmakers in the conference right now in the form of Stroughter and Rodgers. I like their chances.

But don’t get me wrong. I really REALLY want the Bears to lay the wood on them in Corvallis this Saturday.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 9, 2008 7:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But it is still so very, very, very frustrating to lose to USC, yet again, in the same sort of excruciatingly painful way that we’ve lived through the last five seasons. Five!!

And that’s what hurts so bad. We’re not getting blown out. These games are winnable. But we always fall short, by a few calls here or there, a few missed passes, etc. So it goes.

by sec119 on Nov 8, 2008 9:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I think it’s actually more likely that Cal get into the Rose Bowl (relies on UCLA upset of $C, which is very possible given coaching staff and solid Bruin D)

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:32 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I don't see that either...

More likely would be the Furd!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 9:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly possible

Stanfraud looked pretty good at Autzen. Damn that Harbaugh.

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Still think $C is due for another conference loss this year given their overwhelming underwhelmingness.

by RickySanchez on Nov 8, 2008 9:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great photos

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 8, 2008 11:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I sat way too far up to see this, grrr! When was this?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 9, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

how long till....

the “we’ll get em next year” comments roll out? let’s face it, the 2003 victory was sweet. but it won’t happen again for a while. the only way cal will see the rose bowl in the foreseeable future is if usc shoots itself in the foot somehow. save for 2004’s southern miss debacle, cal has never responded well to being in “control of its destiny.”

i don’t know what it is, but even though we play sc close most years, they always just have that extra “push” to pull out the W. and with the number of times they’ve done this to us, i’m not going to dismiss that as luck.

whatever tedford has done to bring out the best in his players and this program, carroll just happens to do it better over at usc. that’s not an insult to tedford by any means, but just the reality of the situation.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Nov 8, 2008 10:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Revenge...

Let’s just throw the game against OSU next week.

Sure, it kinda sucks for us, but to keep USC out of a decent Bowl Game….

I don’t know. Think about it.

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by bears'R'us on Nov 8, 2008 11:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

uuhhh... ... ... no

I get you’re point, but I think a Holiday Bowl for Cal is more than what most expected at the beginning of the season. Let’s fight for that.

by JohnnyCalifornia on Nov 8, 2008 11:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Cal played well.

As usual, the PAC-10 refs game U$C their phantom TD.
Our D kept the score low.
The O ran down the clock and moved the ball and kept the D off the field.
We executed our game plan pretty well.

No, we didn’t win. But they do have an incredible defense and ours was pretty good too. We certainly were in the game late.

I wasn’t expecting a win but I thought we played well and perhaps helped spoil their title chances.

OSU will have a hard time scoring on this D.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Nov 8, 2008 11:07 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

The game next week will be a defensive battle.

No one has really been able to stop Rodgers… if he goes off, the Beavers win. Stop him, the Beavers lose.

The Beavers are at home… they are very tough at Reser.

Giving [Batum] the freedom to go for steals is going to be like giving a redneck six boxes of ammo and a quarter mile of empty Bud cans. - Dave

by Cablinasian on Nov 8, 2008 11:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I……….agree??? What insanity is this world coming to!?!?

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 7:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Editing Privileges.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Nov 9, 2008 9:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If our game plan was for USC to make their usual bonehead collection of penalties to keep Cal drives alive, then, yes, we executed it to perfection.

You’re right: a fantastic performance by the Cal defense, and a questionable (at best) USC touchdown. But good execution is not how I’d describe Cal’s offense last night. From the high snap to Best on the very first series, to the timeouts needed to avoid delay of game, to the receivers lined up in the wrong place on what should have been Vereen’s touchdown, to the stumbling over their own feet, it was a comedy of errors.

Sanchez was efficient. Cal was not. Ball game. I’ve seen this script before, and I’m getting really tired of it.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 9, 2008 8:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

As I Longshore supporter, I understand why JT played Riley.

It was an F’N jailbreak up front, we needed a mobile QB… A mobile but accurate QB which Riley was not. Nevertheless I was very proud of the Bears. We killed Vegas and with some different officiating we could have won.

by JohnnyCalifornia on Nov 8, 2008 11:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Just got back from the game. Some scattered shots:

1. Oline was newb and showed it. Penalties, crappy holes, poor pass protection galore.

2. Weather was great.

3. SC took advantage of opportunities, we did not.

4. Three timeouts called due to play not being ready? Playcall management = poor.

5. Best tripped on himself twice. Longshore once.

6. On SC’s screen pass TD, we had two defenders lined up against three of their receivers.

7. How many times did Sanchez fake the handoff, roll out, and complete the pass to the TE for an 8-12 yard gain?

Bottom line: Inexperienced Oline, key dropped balls/overthrown passes, penalties galore, SC takes advantage of our mistakes = SC win.

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Welcome.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2008 12:02 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if it's been discussed, don't care to read through all the posts

But the illegal formation penalty… Shouldn’t we be watching football, not formations… Did it really matter how many guys were lined up on the LOS that the WR burned USC’s DB?

Would that have really made a difference in that certain play?

I hate obscure penalties. Unfortunately, they are apart of the game

Oregon State: where play action defense and healthy QBs thrive

by The VD Special on Nov 9, 2008 1:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The rules are the rules

But I agree. This is why I prefer soccer, where the ref has the discretion to ignore fouls that are irrelevant. It’s actually a rather interesting paradox that we (the United States) have a culture that deeply distrusts authority and celebrates “mavericks” and “rebels” and rules breakers in general, but we nonetheless insist that our sports are governed by obscenely thick rule books that nobody fully understands. I guess this is because we don’t trust the refs either, and we somehow think more words on paper will clarify things to a point that eliminates all controversy and injustice. If only.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 9, 2008 7:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was impressed by their effort

Like many said here, they didn’t help themselves on offense.

The ’Zona and, to a lesser extent, Maryland loses hurt more than a good effort on the road.

Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.

by carp on Nov 9, 2008 6:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What was Expected

I agree on the playcalling seemed once again too conservative and predictable against SC. But all kinds of 20 yard gains were overthrown, dropped, or negated by penalties. How can you open up the playbook when people aren’t even lining up in the right place (it was the correct call, not an illegal formation because both receivers were on the line not off, so Ross was actually a ineligible lineman covered by Boateng) or running the right route?

You can’t hang this loss on Tedford or the coaches (although I’d like to see more screens and quick slants that QBs/WRs can’t f-up as easily or anyone see Maulanga lined up on Ross after motioning out of the backfield during the reverse, why not exploit that later), players need to step up. SC is a mortal football team which makes mistakes just like every other team does. Players need quit talking about “playing perfect” like Follett this week, players need to play their game and make the most of the opportunities that present themselves which were abundant on Saturday. The offense hasn’t been right all year but it is hampered by inexperience (some of which caused by injuries to the depleted O-line). We should celebrate the defense.

by bringbackbuddytrees on Nov 9, 2008 7:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Here's what we CAN hang on the coaches

This was a horrifically inefficient effort by the offense which at times resembled a Spring-practice scrimmage. It’s god-damned November and the receivers can’t figure out who’s supposed to be lined up on the LOS?!

To be fair, the total lack of continuity in personnel at every offensive position save center and running backs makes it difficult for any offense to find its rhythm. And playing USC’s defense doesn’t help either. But if ever there was a game that demanded mistake-free execution, this was it. It’s time to start playing for next year, and I’d thus like to see Riley under center. And I also doubt that Cal would have won last night with Longshore in the second half—although Nate might very well have made sure Boateng and Ross were lined up correctly on that called-back TD. But Riley was absolutely horrible last night, as incompetent in his management of the offense as he was inaccurate in his passing.

Once again, this game came down to the quarterback play. Sanchez did what he needed to do (like Booty and Leinart in years past), while Riley and Longshore (and Ayoob) came up short.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 9, 2008 7:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How the hell did we hold USC to 17 (or more accurately 10) points? I feel like everytime I looked up Gable was gashing up for 8 yards. Or their TE was catching a 12 yard pass. I mean I barely remember them punting. And I barely remember them not catching balls.

This was one of the greatest D houdini acts I’ve ever seen. I love this D!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 7:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

They only had one converted third down until the fourth quarter

This was truly a “bend but don’t break” sort of defensive game.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 9, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ted Miller at E$PN is an idiot

i know that U$C’s defense is really good, but the Cal offense was in their red zone 3 times last night. We had them on there heels, but the guys killed themselves with stupid penalties. He makes it sound that we were completely dominated last night.

The defense played great last night, they missed a couple of tackles that went for big gains, but over all, they did a nice job.

Ted Miller does not like Cal, never has, but you take away that TD by U$C in the first half and have different ball game.

by GreekBear39 on Nov 9, 2008 8:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

but they usually got to the red zone via SC's penalties...

…not the quality of “their” (that’s how it’s spelled, by the way) play.

by DawgPound on Nov 9, 2008 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the contribution

How’s your season going?

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by CBKWit on Nov 9, 2008 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Guys Guys!

if SC doesn’t go to the Rose Bowl they’ll just head to another BCS game…they take the top 8 remember???

by DawgPound on Nov 9, 2008 8:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not by default; the Big 12 South runnerup and SEC champion loser will get in, and we have no idea how Utah or Boise State will fit in. It’d be easier for USC to win the Pac-10 outright.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 9, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a deuce either way...

I just want our boys to finish strong and bring home the axe. Go Bears!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 9, 2008 9:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Worrell Williams

is it just me or can he not wrap up tackles at all.

by rollonubears on Nov 9, 2008 10:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s you.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2008 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 9, 2008 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

it just seems to me, albeit ive probably only noticed his mistakes, that he always gets to the ball carrier but doesn’t wrap up. i remember one particular example where he should have had havili for a small gain but instead it was a first down. then again i’ve never played football so who am i to judge.

by rollonubears on Nov 9, 2008 8:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2008 12:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Next Year

Obviously, we are going to the Rose Bowl next year since USC will have a down year. But all I really want…

Is a friggen WIN in the city of Los Angeles. I’m moving out of town if I have to suffer another LA loss. (oh and lets beat osu next year too)

by YleeXOtee on Nov 9, 2008 11:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

"Obviously"?!?

what’s Obvious about it? SC doesn’t rebuild, they re-load. They’re already ranked #2 in recruiting for next year and they have 2/3rds the number of recruits so far as the #1 team (see scout.com)

I know the benefits of that won’t be felt next season, but next season’s players there were in the top 3 recruiting class of theirs too. SC has won 44 of their last 45 home games…thank you Stanford! I don’t think we’re gonna win there for awhile. MMMMMMMMMMMaybe next year in strawberry canyon, but not down there.

by DawgPound on Nov 9, 2008 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sheer optimism

How many times have we said this since 1959?

Seriously, what makes you think CAL can go to a RB game, aside from 2004? SC rarely has a down year, and guess what, this year is THEIR DOWN YEAR! CAL seems to be always worse than SC, and going into a SC game I wonder if the staff and players are already planning for the next game since it would be a foregone conclusion.

by ultraseven on Nov 10, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops, thats two wins in LA

one at UCLA and another one in the Rose Bowl when it’s actually the ROSE BOWL.

by YleeXOtee on Nov 9, 2008 11:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We’re 26th in the AP and Coaches’ polls, meanwhile Oregon State has moved into the top-25.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 9, 2008 12:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We'll beat the Beavers...

Get back in the Top 25 and cruise to a 9-3 record. Not bad for a year where expectations were set fairly low. It’s tough to see the D do so well, because then we want the whole team to fire on all cylinders. A strong finish, a good bowl game and hopefully a win is nothing to be ashamed of. Finish strong BEARS!

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 9, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

CAL will not bea the Beavers

this is a poor road team. I like our chances at home, but not on the road.

by ultraseven on Nov 10, 2008 10:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, they will.

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 10, 2008 8:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

BCS rankings

No BCS ranking for us. I’m surprised to see Wake Forest as #24. They received one point in the AP poll and only thirteen in the USA Today poll. The computers must see something about them that the rest of us don’t. Maybe they’re projected the win the rest of their games.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 9, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

BCS fan poll has us 25

This is a decent site that tries to cultivate “honorable” voters. Which is to say, that you can deviate significantly from the collective wisdom if you have at least some reasonable rationale for your votes, BUT if you are outrageously biases (you know who you are Southeasterners) then you never achieve official pollster status.

http://www.bcsfanpoll.com/fanpoll/

by YleeXOtee on Nov 9, 2008 4:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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