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Cal vs. Oregon - Post Game Thoughts

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So I'll be honest.  I wasn't expecting to win today.  I was thinking Cal had a 33% chance of winning.  Today's game surprised me - pleasantly.  Perhaps it's because we had 5 turnovers but still won.  Perhaps it's because if you ignore Best's one long run (which he fumbled on), he only averaged 3 yards a carry and yet we still won.  Perhaps it's because if you ignore Vereen's longest run of the day, he only averaged 2 yards a carry and yet we still won.  Perhaps it's because Tedford has been saying how crucial Riley would be to counter Oregon's fierce pass rush and when Riley was knocked out of the game we still won.  Perhaps it's because despite 7/19 3rd down conversation rate, we still won.  Perhaps it's because we had a bobbled FG hold and some disappointing punts yet we still won.  And for about 10 minutes in the 3rd quarter, I was convinced we were going to lose as Oregon gashed us for 200 yards in like 5 minutes yet we still won.

It seems like we made errors left and right - yet we still won. 

When most people make so many errors and still win, they probably smile at the insane amount of luck they were blessed with.  But I feel like today, despite all the errors, we won because the team willed the win with hard tough solid play despite the conditions.

(1) Defense fairly dominant.

Duck QBs were 11/32 with 2 INTs.  They averaged a pop-warner 2.6 yards per pass.  That is horrible.  I mean, absolutely horrible.  Offensive coordinators will get fired for having a 5.0 yards per pass attempt average.  But 2.6 yards per pass???  Granted, the rain had an effect... but Cal's defense clearly played the pass pretty well.

On the down side, Oregon's two Jeremiahs averaged 5.9 and 4.6 yards per rush (Duck RB Jeremiah Johnson averaged the former; Duck QB Jeremiah Masoli averaged the latter).  If you take away both of their longest runs (only 19 and 21 yards respectively) they averaged about 5.0 and 3.5 yards per carry respectively.  The former is decent, and the latter is sub-par.  Thus, it appears, statistically at least, that the defense did a bad job containing Johnson on the zone reads, but a good job containing Masoli on the zone reads.

But for the most part, the defense played pretty well and kept Cal in the game.  Aside from Oregon's first scoring touchdown drive, and the 3rd quarter, Cal's D was fairly dominant.

Mike Mohammed had a whopping 14 tackles (10 solo!).  Pain Train (toot! toot!) had 11 tackles (8 solos!).  Pain Train also had 3 tackles for a loss and a sack.  Nobody stops the Pain Train.  And hello D-Hag (Darian Hagan) with 3 pass breakups.

Star-divide

(2) Riley, please slide, don't be a hero.

I mean, I get it.  I know you're a competitor and you want to get that extra one yard, but it's not worth a concussion.  Slide, and get up to fight another play. 

Riley had already ran for the first down and it's not like it was a game-ending situation where he had to score or the team would lose, so he should have slid.

Once you sustain your first concussion, you're like twice as likely to get another one later on (something like that).

(3) Offensive line does alright.

As for the run game, as I said earlier, Best and Vereen were only able to average around 3.0 and 2.0 yards per carry respectively (ignoring both of their single large runs).  That's not that great.  Once again, the rain had an effect so we have to sort of temper the expectations a bit, but still... not great.

As for pass protection, well, we all saw Longshore get destroyed from behind but aside from that one the pass protection was actually pretty good.  The OL only let up one sack, and only one QB hit.  Not too bad for a bunch of young guys without extensive starting experience.

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(4) Two QBs

Okay, I know this whole QB controversy has been taking a toll on the fan base.  I think we're all a bit tired from battling it out over our favorite QB (Riley sucks!!!  Longshore is the greatest QB EVAIR!!!), but thank goodness we have two quality QBs.  Well, I know some of us would debate whether Longshore is a "quality" QB (cough cough Olsonist) but at least he's not Kevin Craft.  I mean, we're all sane enough to rather have Longshore instead of Craft, right?  Right???

Back to my point, as Tedford has said, having two starting QBs on roster is a luxury and it really proved to be a luxury today. 

Like Longshore or not, we might need him next week against U$C since Riley could be questionable from his concussion.

(5) WRs a pleasant surprise

After weeks of seeing nothing by the dropsies, they started plucking balls out of the air including some key sideline and 3rd down catches to move the chains!  I think there were perhaps only two instances where the balls slipped through waiting hands. 

(6) Longshore's performance

Let's get straight to it.  Last week, the concensus appeared to be that I gave an overly generous grade to Riley last week.  This week, after careful consideration, I think Longshore deserves an "A".

He was less than 50% today (13/27) with a lowly 5.0 yards per attempt.  But considering the rainy conditions, today's performance is essentially a Peyton Manning-esque performance and clearly cements his position as the starter against USC. 

Longshore converted some crucial 3rd down throws, along with that 4th and a mile throw.  He didn't throw any INTs, and could clearly be seen going through his progressions (oh noes!!!).  At least, from the student section I could clearly see him checking the field on multiple different passing plays.  Overall, considering the field was essentially an Olympic sized pool for half the game and a few balls went through the WRs' hands like they were still ghosts for Halloween, Longshore did pretty well. 

So like I said, today's performance clearly cements Longshore as the starting QB for U$C.

Clearly. 

As clear as muddy water.

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(6) Fans

Well, props to the fans who decided to come and stick it out.  I think some people left at half time which was kind of lame although at the same time, I can somewhat sympathize if they didn't have a poncho. 

The crowd noise sounded fairly loud considering there were only perhaps 40k people in the stadium. 

The mic-men did pretty well today.  They kept the students going through Oregon's no-huddle offense and were very smart to keep the rest of the stadium very involved too. 

Although, I still wish the mic-men would stop the whole "Give me a C!!!  No no no, louder, blah blah blah, we need to be louder, that's a lame 'C'..."  That just plain annoys me.

The players seemed very aware of the crowd today.  Many times I saw the players (especially in the fourth quarter) turn around and motion to the crowd to pick up the noise.  I'm not sure if this is because the crowd wasn't as noisy as usual due to the smaller numbers, or if because the players thought this was a crucial moment in the game.  But I think the players should continue - or if they haven't been then they should - be more active in getting the crowd involved.  Let's be honest here, not all the mic-men have the respect of the students.  Few can actually get the students to be loud on command.  Furthermore, not everyone in the stands is paying attention to the mic-men or the student section.  But most people are watching the players on the field or sidelines.  If the players on the field and sidelines take more of an active part in interacting with the crowd and getting the crowd to be loud, it would be beneficial to the team.  Not only would the crowd be louder, but it would help train the crowd to be louder more often.

That being said, it was cool to see Riley pump up the student section after being taken off the field.  It was also cool to see Follett run over to the offensive huddle on the field during a timeout to pump them up and encourage them to score after the defense forced Oregon to punt.  The last time I saw a player do what Follett did was Lavelle Hawkins during the U$C game last year (2007).  In the fourth quarter, he was standing by former DB Coach Littlejohn (who was signaling in the play to the defense) so the defensive players would see him and yelling encouragment to get the stop so the offense could get one last shot.

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(7) Offensive gameplan

Typical rain gameplan.  Try to run early.  We tried.  Oregon was bringing down their SS into the box.  We phailed. 

Then we started passing, and did you notice Oregon started respecting the pass?  They kept two safeties back.  On passing situations, they played cover 3. 

The Ducks become more balanced on defense when they began to realize that we weren't just going to run all day long because it was raining.  Consider, we passed 39 times today!  39 times!!! Typically we'll pass around 20-30 times in most (normal) games.  But 39 times in ridiculously rainy weather while the field was a pool?  Cignetti said: "respect the pass, Oregon."  And they did. 

(8) Defensive gameplan

Typical Gregory gameplan against Oregon.  Assignment football.  Man coverages on ambiguous downs (downs where the offense can run or pass) for the most part to defend the zone read.  Zones coverages on passing downs. 

Masoli had a few plays where he had some 1 on 1 coverages down the field but continuously checked down to shorter options.  I was surprised.  I know on one instance, Oregon was driving south and Masoli had been flushed from the pocket and was rolling East.  He had an open WR 25 yards down field along the sideline in a crease (seams of zone coverages), seemed to see the WR, yet checked down to a 5 yard route.  Not sure what was going on there.  On another instance, an Oregon WR split Cal's two deep safeties down the middle and was wide open, yet Masoli checked down again.

Gotta hand it to Gregory for putting together a solid gameplan.  I'll have to check to see what was going wrong in the 3rd quarter, but other than that, Gregory gets props from me.

(9) Longshore

Okay, I was kidding about the "A" grade.  Olsonist and CaliSeth can stop being mad now.

I think a "B" is fair.  Certainly, Longshore wasn't OMG SPECTACULAR BEST QB EVAIR!!!  But considering the circumstances, he did fairly well. 

As I said earlier, there were a few drops.  There looked to be a few throws that perhaps got away from him (slipped out of his hand).  He didn't throw any INTs - although Oregon defenders certainly got their hands on at least two balls partly because the balls were (purposely) thrown high and partly because the WRs didn't go up for the ball.

He threw some great strikes for crucial 3rd and the 4th down conversion... not too shabby for a QB whom so many of us have given up on.

(10) What to improve on? 

Penalties.  We had 9 penalties for 85 yards.  That's essentially a touchdown or at least a field goal off of our penalties. 

You can bet the team is going to get punishment up-downs (punishment exercise) for every yard of personal foul yardage. 

Every small mistake, no matter how small, can't happen.

Just look at Oregon.  At one point in the game they were knocking on our endzone door with a 3rd and 1 from like the 5 yard line, but got a false start which put them at 3rd and 6.  They failed to convert, and settled for a field goal - or so they thought (they missed the field goal).  One small false start can absolutely KILL a drive.  We can't have false starts.  We can't have illegal ball snap/infractions or whatever they're called. 

No personal fouls.  No pass interference.

To beat USC we have to play perfectly.  USC has been penalized a fair amount this season.  If we let them make the mistakes, the game will be winnable.  If we start making mistakes.  We lose.

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(11) How we'll win the remaining 4 games.

The key to us winning is in passing the ball.

Our OL is inconsistent when it comes to run blocking yet it's still probably the "strength" of our offense if you can consider it a strength.  But defenses will continue to stack the box and force us to pass - so we have to pass to keep defenses honest. 

If we can win games by just running, well that's just dandy but how often is that going to happen outside of playing WSU?  Not that often.  Not against USC that's for sure. 

We're going to need a balanced offense from here on out to win these tough games.  We'll need the OL to open up bigger rushing holes more consistently. 

We'll need our passing game to be more productive to keep defenses honest.  Our passing game has to be an option and not a 3rd down last resort. 

If our offense starts playing at a level we've come to expect from previous years' offenses, we'll take three of the next four games and perhaps all four.

Poll
Which defensive player should win the "CGB Defensive Player of the Game" award?
Mike Mohamed (14 tkls)
24 votes
Pain Train (11 tkls, 3 TFL, 1 PBU, 1 sack)
110 votes
Cameron Jordan (10 tkls, 2.5 TFL, 1 sack)
19 votes
Worrell Williams (9 tkls, 1 INT, 2 PBU)
39 votes

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Also needs to include Ezeff for inspiring fear into #23’s soul.

by Rishi on Nov 3, 2008 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

And the student section

We helped wreck him!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 3, 2008 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I can't blame her

She was very unpopular and not very good at managing the crowd. It’s too bad she felt bad enough to quit, though.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 3, 2008 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Her voice was too shrill.

by Rishi on Nov 3, 2008 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I think this is more it than anything. People don’t like to be yelled at by people who sound like their mom, angry.

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
Now Go Away.
And Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

When the 5’2 girl in front of me is yelling, “That’s the wrong cheer, you dumb b****,” it’s time to put down the mic.

by royb on Nov 3, 2008 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember a fairly large group actually chanting “put down the mic! put down the mic!”

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
Now Go Away.
And Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

If she was 5’4 or 6’2, would it be different?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

No, there is great honor in knowing when to get off of the stage. I thought the guy this game did fine. He may like to spell a little too much, but maybe he’s just learning how!

by zoonews on Nov 3, 2008 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The first mic man is really good. He works the crowd well.

by Rishi on Nov 3, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I was only there Q1 and Q4 but it all seemed fine.

by zoonews on Nov 3, 2008 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

It was thinly-veiled sarcasm.

by Rishi on Nov 3, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm very surprised at our WRs

They did a better job than Oregon’s!

And I think we finally have our go-to receivers: Boateng, Tucker and Ross

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 3, 2008 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

Remember this was a new crew. It was going to take awhile. Get used to liking them.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Nov 3, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Our WRs definitely outplayed theirs. (See Williams, Jaison, who looked ready to go home in the 4Q.)

I think we are starting to see a nice week-to-week progression. If they can continue to improve, we might actually have a passing attack. That 1st TD drive looked like some Armed Forces Bowl shiat!

Go BEARS!

I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.

by OskiMonsta on Nov 3, 2008 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it possible

the WR’s did something special to help them catch the ball that they don’t normally do?

Perhaps there is a special stickum adhesive that works really, really well.

I suppose they just “figured it out” that we see so often with college football players but it seems weird that it happened on a rainy day.

Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.

by carp on Nov 3, 2008 9:51 AM PST reply actions  

I don’t like that you take out the longest run, but not the shortest run. All the runs are data points, no? Or if you’re worried about outliers, just use the median. /stats

What was crazy about the run vs. pass percentage was that Longshore’s first thirty million plays were all passes. I was amazed that there was no run up the middle or anything similar to ease up on him, but that’s the luxury of having a backup game-ready QB.

by sec119 on Nov 3, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

Good point

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 3, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone know how many passes Nate attempted in the 4th quarter? I’m pretty sure it was close to ZERO.

by MCM711 on Nov 3, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate was 3-4 passing for 25 yards in the 4th quarter, but all 4 attempts came early in the quarter before the Byrd muffed punt set up Vereen’s final TD run. Once the Bears were up 10, the Bears did “run-run-run-punt” on their final two possessions of the quarter.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 3, 2008 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t like that you take out the longest run, but not the shortest run. All the runs are data points, no? Or if you’re worried about outliers, just use the median.

I generally like taking out the longest run if it’s an outlier. I don’t usually bother with the shortest run for the opposite reason; i.e., taking out one 0-yard run doesn’t change the average much.

agree, though, that taking the median would be a better measure of how effective and consistent a running game is.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 3, 2008 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

What about calling all runs of 20+ yards as 20 yards? I’m just uncomfortable with taking out a data point, even if it’ll skew the mean.

by sec119 on Nov 3, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I like removing the top run

Honestly, we know Best/Vereen can bust the big one. But the real question is whether they can average 4 yds a rush when they DON’T break loose. Those runs are what earn first downs.

by ohmangoAs on Nov 3, 2008 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

that's probably fair

there are a lot of runs that, once they reach a certain point, can be basically scored as ‘taking it to the house’. if the field was 300 yards long, it still would have been a touchdown.

the problem with using the median is that sometimes the median will be extremely low, especially with passing statistics. you could pile up decent numbers and, if you pass less than 50%, your median will still be 0.

there are plenty of ways to skew data to make a certain point. i agree that removing data points can be especially misleading, but sometimes the data suggests that one piece is a true outlier, and it would not be disingenuous to discard it. what if, for example, the longest run was 80 yards, but the second longest was only 6?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 3, 2008 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted for WW #1

because he read that route perfectly and put us in a great position to score when we needed some separation. He was all over the field like our other LBs throughout the game. Thank you Worrell!!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 3, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

ditto!

Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.

by carp on Nov 3, 2008 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

Hope is dangerous, but Glory is addictive.

by AndBears on Nov 3, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Pain Train

He had a monster game both live and on TV. In addition to the stats listed on the poll he also came over and gave Riley a pep talk after his big hit ( I doubt Kevin will remember it) and inspired the offense to score a TD after the punt recovery. That guy is awesome.

by CountDuku on Nov 3, 2008 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

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by TwistNHook on Nov 4, 2008 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for embedding that. I guessed which option to pick, and I guessed wrong.

by suessbear on Nov 4, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You almost had me with the early "A" grade :-)

I was all gearing up for my rebuttal, but fortunately I read your entire post first. I totally agree with your “B” evaluation, and I’m very very happy our 2nd quarterback is Longshore – who would be a starter at many Pac-10 schools. Though I want Riley healthy and back for U$C.

Did you see the Chronicle article with the graphic showing both of their passer rating stats in a chart? Riley was just going straight up before he got hit.

The offensive gameplan was REALLY a pleasant surprise to me. I mean there were a lot of wrinkles that I think gave Oregon a hard time (if we hadn’t turned the ball over, it would have been a blowout apparently). All those passes at one point, like you mentioned…

There’s still too much running Best up the middle from an obvious run formation (sorry Jahvid, but power runs into big D-linemen is not your strength), with 8+ guys in the box and the O-line doing nothing special, but aside from that, I was impressed and happy, like you, with a LOT of what I saw. I think we have some innovation going from the coaches, and it’s a good thing. And the WRs really made me happy today. In those conditions, they performed better then they had all year, IMHO.

I agree if we can get O production and cut mistakes down we have a solid chance to run the table. If we can’t…well, it’s 2/4 or 3/4 with some luck.

Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS

by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

JW...

do you know why Willard wore a teeny-tiny jersey that basically left his whole midsection exposed? I’m sure it worked with the ladies…maybe it was a fad…

Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.

by carp on Nov 3, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

From what I remember

A lot of players were wearing their jerseys that way. Mick Barsala, JW, one of the Zomalt brothers.

by LeonPowe on Nov 3, 2008 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I never ASKED him...

But there were many others sporting the midriff look ‘back in those days’. I assume he liked the fresh air, and was immune to abrasions because of his titanium alloy skin.

And yeah, chicks dig it.

Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS

by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, the 3rd Down converstion rate FELT much higher

Can you calculate it at different points during the game? It just felt like 70%+ for a while to me while watching the game. And I thought the punts at the end must have been where we started to really drop the rate, which was too bad (sealing the deal is what great teams do, instead of just hanging on for the win), but it was also due a lot to conservatism with a decent lead. So I kind of give the O an ‘excuse’ for a lot of the 3rd down failures in the late game.

I think what they converted early on was much more meaningful, and I’d like to know how it was in 1Q, 2Q, 3Q…

Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS

by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

by quarter

1st Q
Cal 5-7 (also converted one due to Pass Interference)
Oregon 0-2

2nd Q
Cal 1-5
Oregon 0-4

3rd Q
Cal 0-3 (also converted one due to Pass Interference)
Oregon 2-4

4th Q
Cal 1-4
Oregon 2-7

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 3, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

blah, blah, blah, stats = HELLA

Hope is dangerous, but Glory is addictive.

by AndBears on Nov 3, 2008 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I guess I'm biased to the 1Q

But the first quarter WAS awesome in terms of conversions. It just broke their defense’s will, and I think set up the game for Cal.

Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS

by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And I believe one of those was the 4th and 14.

4th and 14!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely I would give Longshore a B grade, leaning towards a B+ since he had to come off the bench. He did well holding the team together in difficult circumstances, especially when he got sacked from behind and he held onto the ball. He was aggressive until the game was in hand in the 4th.

Riley’s run reminded me of Cattouse’s pursuit angle or that Texas DB pursuit angle for that matter. Riley (and Cattouse) could get away with that shit in HS but these guys are bigger and faster. He’ll learn or die. Tedford should be all over him for that.

All in all, I was expecting a win. I thought our defense would do well and it did. Everything else was a pleasant surprise, particularly the WRs and the stitched together OL. But I didn’t think Oregon could run or pass against that D and they Didn’t.

How will we win the remaining 2 games?

Our running game has to be good enough to take defensive pressure off our passing game.
Our passing game has to be good enough to take defensive pressure off our running game.
Our offense has to be good enough to keep our defense off the field.
No turnovers.

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Nov 3, 2008 11:13 AM PST reply actions  

Plus...

Our defense has to be good enough to get our offense back onto the field QUICKLY.

by LovinBlue on Nov 3, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Rewatching the game on TV, it looked like there was a defender who came up on Riley from behind, whom Riley probably wasn’t expecting, and that defender’s helmet was what Riley’s head hit after the initial tackle. So hopefully Riley will see that on video, and remind himself that he can’t outrun everybody like he may have in high school.

by sec119 on Nov 3, 2008 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he learned that against OSU last year.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

But this time there was the real threat of brain damage!

by paleodan on Nov 3, 2008 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t there always, Paleodan? Isn’t there always!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged, for reminding me of that!

by sec119 on Nov 3, 2008 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d for flagging me!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Link to the Pac-10 release

http://www.pac-10.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/110308aac.html

Also, OSU’s Jacquizz Rodgers wins offensive POTW for 2nd time this season.

Go Bears!

by Ohio Bear on Nov 3, 2008 11:39 AM PST reply actions  

I was happy that we passed a lot. We need the practice, and we have to keep defenses honest.

The one thing that bugged me, and I don’t know if the stats tell the same story, but it seemed like we ran a lot on 1st down into Oregon’s 8-man front. Then we would pass on 2/3 against a 7-man front. I was really looking for more passing on 1st against the 8. I think with a beat-up O-line, we should almost always audible to a pass when we see 8 in da box.

I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.

by OskiMonsta on Nov 3, 2008 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

Also, the key to winning the next 2 games: which D will show up? The one that has looked awesome against the Ducks, Sun Devils, Spartans, etc.? Or the one that has looked bad on the road against the Wildcats and Terps? It looks like a home/road thing, which doesn’t bode well. Hopefully that will change.

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by OskiMonsta on Nov 3, 2008 11:45 AM PST reply actions  

This has definitely been a trend this year: D tends to play well at home, and come out VERY sluggish on the road (The Defense actually played pretty darn well in the second half of the Maryland game). But I do NOT think this is going to be an issue in the $C game. The D ALWAYS comes out fired up against $C and plays well. Pain Train simply will not allow the defense to not show for that game — if you recall, last year, he was throwing pelvic thrusts at the visiting Trojenz fams — it was kinda’ bizaare.

by RickySanchez on Nov 3, 2008 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Request to the mic men

I sit in Section TT, so I am close enough (and motivated enough) to participate in the various cheers MOST of the time. And I have the following comments:

First on the plus side:
- I LOVED the jumping (and took part despite my being with the old people.. oh wait, at 38, maybe I’m one of those)
- Kudos on the continued energy

Requests:
- “C – C – A – L” spells Ccal, but it was always most effective when Mike Montgomery did it that way.
- Just yell out with all your might the “What’s that spell? Who are we? And who’s gonna win”" part… don’t get all fancy with the “Whooooooooooooo’s gonna win?”
- It’s “Rooooolllll on you Bears!” not “Rooo-yall on you Bears!”
- “Roll on you Bears” is only cheered on our first first down after crossing midfield – no more, no less
- Whatever happened to “C-A-L whoya rootin’ for?”

by LovinBlue on Nov 3, 2008 11:59 AM PST reply actions  

One more comment

There is a special rule that “Roll on you Bears!” can be invoked if multiple subsequent penalties drive the opponent back over midfield AND we are not winning or doing well. We successfully invoked that rule at some game in 1990 or 1991 if I remember correctly.

by LovinBlue on Nov 3, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Did not know this

This rule is awesome. I am child of the Tedford era so Roll on you bears has mostly been of offensive progress, but I will do this if we push them back over the 50.

And the students seriously need to roll up the mike man if pull a “first and ten do it again” when its first and goal. I don’t know if it has happened this year but it happened a couple of times last year.

by CountDuku on Nov 3, 2008 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I contend that “Roll on you bears” is correctly cheered on the first first down after crossing midfield, and each subsequent first down that is appropriate (after a 10-yard run = appropriate; after a 49-yard pass is not appropriate.) As long as the Bears are methodically rolling down field, the cheer works. People should be smart enough to use it correctly (Also, the Roll on you bears cheers should never been done by the Mic Man into the microphone.)

I also contend that the overhand clap (the Gator-chomp-esque one) has been totally bastardized. It used to only be done when the other team did something awful or stupid (like say, get a penalty killing a first down) now it is used only when we get sacks. The origins of the cheer are that it was used mockingly against another team that used it regularly (for some reason, Wisconsin I think but could be totally wrong.) Doing clap un-ironically seems pretty stupid.

by Tedfordisgod on Nov 3, 2008 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I imagined you saying this post with your index finger triumphantly pointed into the air.

“I contend….”

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I pictured it more like

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Welcome.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Great show!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 4, 2008 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe that we permanently borrowed it from Wisconsin and it is called the fish clap. I’ll ahve to get back to you on my source for that info, it is somewhere on the interweb and hence totally trustworthy.

by CountDuku on Nov 3, 2008 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Good find on the fish clap

I was at that game and we indeed picked up on it to mock the Beavers!

by LovinBlue on Nov 4, 2008 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

cool

adding that link to our ‘resources’ sidebar now.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 4, 2008 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I had a sweet link on all the big game pranks over the years, I’ll have to find it again for Big Game week.

by CountDuku on Nov 4, 2008 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

about roll on you bears...

if the mic man does not at least start it with the mic the entire section is saying it at a different time. this causes a general rambling sound to be heard rather than the cheer itself.

by SillyFast on Nov 6, 2008 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What happened to...

“GO… BIG BLUE…. SHOW WHAT YOU CAN DO (clap clap)”?

by Rishi on Nov 3, 2008 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully dead

We’re not Michigan. Whenever I hear Big Blue that’s what I think of

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 3, 2008 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Same here. I always feel a little weird during that cheer. I’m glad we only do it a few times per season.

ಠ_ಠ

by Berkelium97 on Nov 3, 2008 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude I love that one, becaus of the two rounds going on at the same time.

Go Big Blue Show What You Can Do

and then also

Go Biiiiiiiiiiig Bluuuuuuuuuuuuue

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going to ask about it but figured it was too Michigan for people to care. We do like to subs"tit"ute “blue” for parts of female anatomy and then the (clap clap) with yelling “jiggle up and down”. It’s not real popular except for when we have 7th graders sitting near us.

by CountDuku on Nov 3, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I went by Gunther on Sat and yelled “Count Duku” really loudly. Nobody turned.

Also, as the game ended, I saw that two of Gunther’s friends slipped and fell over. One was apparently bleeding. Any knowledge as to how the people were doing? Was that you who fell?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry I missed you man, we were close but not that close. I was the dude twined up with my lady in the rain suits. We got partially separated from the group as they migrated at half time. I would say I might see you big game but it will probably be crazy, so maybe at the Washington game.

Yes those are my friends that fell, my buddy has this uncanny ability to suddenly get uber-drunk doing nothing. We typically do a lot of falling during the game but there are usually more people to break our fall. Everyone was alright at the end of the day.

by CountDuku on Nov 3, 2008 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Darian Hagan needs a good nickname

Hagan Dazs Interceptions?

help me out here…

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Welcome.
Now Go Away.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 3:47 PM PST reply actions  

Nnamdi Jr. ?

Really, I got nothing.

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 3, 2008 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

D-Hag not good enough for ya?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 3, 2008 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds too much like T-Bag

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I didn’t even notice Zoonews’ post. That makes two Tobias Funke references in one thread. UNBELIEVABLE.

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Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ve broken the Tobias Funke reference barrier?!?! And nobody thought it could be accomplished!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 4, 2008 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He was always D-Hag back in his early days. I’m not sure if he has a new nickname now. Sounds like a question for Okanes!

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by HydroTech on Nov 3, 2008 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I like this.

I like this a lot!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 3, 2008 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone Rec this post please

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 3, 2008 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

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