Bye Week Open Thread
And to think, my Thanksgiving weekend was going so well.
I drove down to San Diego on Wednesday to visit the in-laws for Thanksgiving, had a lovely dinner, got some drinks with some of her friends, did some holiday shopping, and watched Battlestar Galactica for the first time. I even taught my mother-in-law how to play Wii for the first time. That was fun. I was going to drive back to the Bay Area this morning, hoping to get back early enough to catch part of the Civil War, and then help a friend move on Sunday, but alas, it is not meant to be. Found out late last night that my car refuses to start, and I don't know why (already tried jumping it). Gonna call AAA in the morning, but until this gets figured out, I'm stuck in Southern California until further notice. No plans, nothing to do but sit around and watch a bunch of football today.
So, anyway, here's what I'll be watching:
Broadcast TV:
#22 Georgia Tech @ #11 Georgia, 9:00AM - CBS
Auburn @ #1 Alabama, 12:30PM - CBS
#4 Florida @ #20 Florida State, 12:30PM - ABC
#3 Oklahoma @ #12 Oklahoma State, 5:00PM - ABC
Four rivalry games featuring seven ranked teams, and I'm really only expecting Oklahoma at Oklahoma State to be close. An upset Cowboy victory would straighten out the Big XII South and send Texas Tech to the conference title game, leaving Texas the luxury of sitting around and waiting for a BCS bid. Oklahoma, on the other hand, could use some style points to stay ahead of Texas; simply beating the 'Pokes may not be enough to get them to Kansas City. Either way, I think the only way Texas is denied a BCS bid is if Oklahoma wins, but so poorly that Texas passes them, where the Longhorns somehow lose to Missouri in the title game.
Meanwhile, Alabama and Florida get tuneups before the SEC title game, though, as the cliché goes, rivalry games can be unnecessarily difficult. I think both the Crimson Tide and the Gators assure themselves of a BCS berth simply by winning today.
Basic Cable:
Virginia @ Virginia Tech, 9:00AM - ESPN
South Carolina @ Clemson, 9:00AM - ESPN2
Kansas @ #13 Missouri, 9:30AM - Versus
Maryland @ #21 Boston College, 12:30PM - ESPN2
Baylor @ #7 Texas Tech. 12:30PM - Comcast Sports Net Bay Area
Kentucky @ Tennessee, 3:30PM - ESPN2
#23 Oregon @ #17 Oregon State, 4:00PM - Versus
Notre Dame @ #5 USC, 5:00PM - ESPN
I hope you get Versus; if you don't, find a friend (or a bar) that does. With a Rose Bowl berth on the line, I'm expecting this Civil War to be a doozy; let's say ... decided late on some clutch (or not-so-clutch) field goal kicking. If that doesn't sufficiently intrigue you, know this: in all likelihood, an Oregon State victory sends Cal to the Holiday Bowl, while an Oregon upset kicks the Bears down to the Emerald.
The rest of the slate features some surprisingly non-intriguing rivalry games. Battles in Virginia and South Carolina just don't compel me, and calling Maryland at BC a rivalry only proves how screwed up the ACC expansion was. I will be shocked if ND or Baylor comes within 4 touchdowns of USC or Texas Tech, and the thing that puzzles me most is this: Tennessee has, like, 4 different rivals in the SEC (Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Vanderbilt), and they end the season with Kentucky? Kentucky? Maybe I'd care if it were a basketball game...
Pay-Per-View or No TV:
Syracuse @ #16 Cincinnati, 9:00AM
Washington State @ Hawai'i, 8:00PM
Cincy has already clinched the Big East title, making their home game against Syracuse even less compelling. Meanwhile, Wazzu mercifully ends its season in Hawai'i, which is a pretty nice consolation prize for such a terrible, terrible season of football.
Oh, and when the Civil War is done, since I'll still be stuck in SoCal, I'll turn to my trusty ESPN Gametracker to follow the finals of the Global Sports Classic featuring:
California vs. Florida State, 7:30PM
In case you hadn't heard, the Bears topped UNLV in the tournament's opening game last night (no, those two games last week don't count) 73-55. I especially liked Jerome Randle's line:
18 points on 5-11 shooting, including 4-5 beyond the arc and 4-4 on free throws, 6 rebounds, 8 assists to only 4 turnovers, and a steal.
5 Bears scored in double figures, and the Cal defense held UNLV to less than 30% shooting. They take on 6-0 Florida State tonight, and while I think this is a game the Bears can win, they haven't yet played back-to-back games this season, so we'll see how well the defense holds up on tired legs.
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Have you considered screaming really loudly at your car? That’s what I do.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:31 AM PST
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Good news, everybody!
My car works again! Hurray! Good riddance, southern California.
Bad news…gonna miss most of today’s football action. Oh well, still beats fighting through Sunday post-Thanksgiving traffic.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:02 PM PST
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I really hope my plan worked. My washer wasn’t working yesterday, so I hit it really hard and then it worked. I’m a magician!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:00 PM PST
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Don’t sleep on Baylor! Robert Griffin, baby. Robert Griffin and track stars!
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 9:06 AM PST
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Don’t forgEt Max Zhang blocking 3 shots a game while only playing 6 minutes per. TOOT TOOT!
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 9:09 AM PST
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I'm rooting for Tech
and the triple option
A shame the Civil War is on Versus…then again, no one really figured this rivalry game to be that prominent on a weekend filled with rivalry games.
The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.
by carp on
Nov 29, 2008 9:29 AM PST
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I love that I can root for OSU today...
…not so much that I like OSU or dislike Oregon, but I don’t have to do something that makes me feel dirty, like hoping U$c or Stanfurd wins to propel us into the Holiday Bowl.
by LovinBlue on
Nov 29, 2008 10:36 AM PST
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Wow. Anyone watching Mizzou play Kansas on CSN… Please stop telling me they have the BeSt OfFeNZ eVaIR
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 10:58 AM PST
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Georgia Tech-Georgia
This GT option offense is fantastic today. They’ve scored 26 unanswered points and have gone up 38-28.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 11:55 AM PST
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Indeed
I love watching the option. I would hate trying to defend it, though.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:00 PM PST
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Yeah, it reminds me of the first quarter and a half against Air Force last year. That was a tough offense to figure out.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 12:17 PM PST
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Am I the only Cal fan who hates watching the option?
BOO!! THE FOOTBALL WAS MEANT TO BE THROWN
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:28 PM PST
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i know this game is high scoring
but can you really call it a “shootout” when GT is running the option?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:31 PM PST
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You can just call it a blowout!
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:36 PM PST
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not yet you can't
georgia within 3
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:37 PM PST
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Dwyer for 63yds
3rd play of the drive. Guaranteed.
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:38 PM PST
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Clemson is busted up Sout Carolina tpp
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:11 PM PST
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S E C ! S E C ! S E C !
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:12 PM PST
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*busting
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:12 PM PST
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Who are Grambling State and Southern?
And why are they on NBC?
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 12:27 PM PST
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I don't know
but I’m sure they tackle better than Georgia’s LBs and Secondary
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:29 PM PST
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they are Historically Black Colleges
and their marching bands are fantastic. Grambling has 3 auditions to get into their band – music, marching, and dancing.
i think this game is on TV every year.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:30 PM PST
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Thanks. I can appreciate that.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 12:35 PM PST
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It is
biggest rivalry of historically black schools
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:36 PM PST
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Stuckey for Kansas is having a beautiful game in the secondary.
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 12:33 PM PST
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ok, i'm outta here
enjoy the games, folks. go beavs!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on
Nov 29, 2008 12:37 PM PST
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Kansas is really taking it to Mizzou.
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 12:40 PM PST
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DINNER AT THE MANGINO'S!
I’m sure there’s plenty of food to go around (although I doubt any of it is leftovers)
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:45 PM PST
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He makes the Fridge look like Kate Moss.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 12:55 PM PST
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That's funny
I imagine Twist makes Kate Moss look like the Fridge… from what I’ve heard around here
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 12:56 PM PST
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That is true. I do have a woefully inadequate penis.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:01 PM PST
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hahahahahaha
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:03 PM PST
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The Fridge makes Kate Moss look like the Wasilla of Corvallis.
or something
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on
Nov 29, 2008 1:13 PM PST
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I miss Sarah Palin. She was funny. I sort of wanted to see her be the VP just so we could have years and years of Tina Fey doing impressions of her.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:17 PM PST
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I agree with HydroTech. The absolute boon of comedy would have WELL outweighed the epic global collapse.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:02 PM PST
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"We’re gonna take it week by week. If she wins, I’m done," [Tina] Fey tells TV Guide in the Oct. 20 issue. "I can’t do that for four years. And by ‘I’m done,’ I mean I’m leaving Earth."
It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.
by thenick on
Nov 29, 2008 11:25 PM PST
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Men's basketball is on ESPN2 tonight at 7:30 so no need for Gametracker.
by The Hombre on
Nov 29, 2008 1:02 PM PST
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Just in time to switch over after the Civil War...
I just hope Randle isn’t worn out after doing everything last night
Go Bears!!
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:24 PM PST
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Riley to Morrah in te Holiday Bowl baby
Whooo Whooo
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:03 PM PST
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Hot wings for everyone!
Care of Mangino.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 1:04 PM PST
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And you mean EVERYONE
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:04 PM PST
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Some great games this morning...
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:02 PM PST
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Some great *defenses this morning
Fixed.
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 1:03 PM PST
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Missou about to go down?
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:03 PM PST
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I’M SO EXCITED FOR THE CIVIL WAR!!!
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:05 PM PST
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Me too. These great morning openers have me excited for the Civil War.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 1:07 PM PST
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Sort of ironic, how if Oregon State wins, that the Pac-10 will get two teams into the BCS when it’s arguably having a down year.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:06 PM PST
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Welcome to the genius of the BCS.
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Nov 29, 2008 1:07 PM PST
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It seems like every conference has 'had a down year' this year
except for Big 12. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a bad bowl record.
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:08 PM PST
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What happens to Mizzou
Hydro,
Mizzou just lost to Kansas… what happens if they lose the Big12 championship? Does this mean they miss the Holiday?
BTW: That game was the game of the year.
by danzig on
Nov 29, 2008 1:09 PM PST
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I’d love to give you an answer, Danzig. But that question is probably one for Ragnarok.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:11 PM PST
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It's the bowl's choice
it seems like it’s between OK State, Mizzou, Nebraska (assuming the Cotton takes Texas Tech)
And this is all assuming the favorites win out in the conference
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:11 PM PST
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The Cotton will take the loser out of the Big 12 South scrum (non-BCS one), probably Texas Tech; the Holiday Bowl probably takes Okie State, unless they have a huge mancrush on Chase Daniel.
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Nov 29, 2008 1:17 PM PST
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QUESTION FOR THOSE WHO WERE AT BIG GAME
What the heck happened on our failed PAT? They never really showed replays on TV. It looked like Nate got the snap down fine, but nothing happened. As in the kicker never even started his approach, so then Nate rolled out.
I know it wasn’t a fake PAT by the way the OL was blocking. So it definitely wasn’t a fake, but what the heck happened??? Did anyone get a better look? I didn’t even see the play, I was busy rolling up people.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:14 PM PST
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Botched blocking assignment = Nate goes down?
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on
Nov 29, 2008 1:31 PM PST
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bad snap (to longshores outside shoulder)
no way for him to get the ball down to kick, so he stood up….tavecchio tried to get outside for a pass (his asignment on a blown snap) and it all went nowhere.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on
Nov 29, 2008 2:49 PM PST
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Thank you.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 6:14 PM PST
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Don't sleep on Baylor!!! (on Versus)
QB Robert Griffin is just as studly as Pryor. They took it to Mizzou earlier this year.
13-7 after 1st Quarter
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:17 PM PST
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If Robert Griffin had more of a team around him, Griffin would be putting up comparable stats to like Vince Young.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:18 PM PST
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Does anyone else feel like Tim Tebow’s apology to Gator Nation (back when Florida loss to Ol Miss) was sort of ridiculous?
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:28 PM PST
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Yeah
I agree. It was ridiculous. Football is a team game but Tebow was trying to be a hero or something and blame the loss on himself. Ridic.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:33 PM PST
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Did you just agree with yourself?
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 1:34 PM PST
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Yes, I like to talk to myself.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:37 PM PST
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Doe anybody else feel like HydroTech’s talking to himself to CGB nation (back when it was 1:33) was sort of ridiculous.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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Yeah. I agree. It was ridiculous. Blogging on football is a team game, but HydroTech was trying to be a hero or something. Ridic!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:03 PM PST
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Redonkulous
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:35 PM PST
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I have a really hard time imagining Tim Tebow being successful in the NFL.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:42 PM PST
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What about at LB?
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:43 PM PST
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Oh yeah, sure. I really don’t see him as an NFL QB. His release isn’t slow, but then again it isn’t exactly NFL fast either. His passing experience is pretty limited in Florida’s run heavy offense. I just don’t think he quite has the passing tools to be an NFL starter.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:46 PM PST
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I agree, Hydro.
What do you think about Graham Harrell? NFL QB?
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:50 PM PST
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Yeah
I do like Graham Harrell. They guy has incredible incredible accuracy. He’s EXTREMELY accurate. The biggest problem for him though is his lack of size for a pocket passer and his lack of escapability. But I think Harrell could probably be a decent 4th round pick or so.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 1:51 PM PST
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I agree with everything you've said
to yourself
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:56 PM PST
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Sounds like you just described Drew Brees
except Brees has escapability
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 1:59 PM PST
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I agree with everything you’ve said in regards to what I said to myself.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:02 PM PST
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Harrell is the best of the Big 12 QBs, and maybe McCoy is right behind him (Oklahoma and Nebraska QBs typically end up in the shitter). But it depends which offense he gets put in. I usually don’t like big college football QBs making the leap to the NFL though, you can just look around and see the carnage.
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Nov 29, 2008 1:59 PM PST
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reaching for the goalline = ALL BAD.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:03 PM PST
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HE HAD POSSESSION AT THE ONE
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Nov 29, 2008 2:03 PM PST
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I like how we're all watching this game
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 2:04 PM PST
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I should not be watching the game and should be studying instead.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:08 PM PST
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And miss that amazing two point conversion?
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Nov 29, 2008 2:09 PM PST
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Amazingly lucky.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:09 PM PST
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Tough test on Garlic and Onion Theory?
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 2:09 PM PST
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Yeah, I had to write a paper on the whole Chicken and the Egg theory too last week.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:13 PM PST
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damn it!!
I have Versus in my apartment at Berkeley (a free basic cable package) but not in the HD package at home for dish network. This sucks!!
by racsan on
Nov 29, 2008 2:03 PM PST
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The Versus Channel:
Where BCS dreams go to die….
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Nov 29, 2008 2:07 PM PST
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Okay, I should study for a bit.
But I’ll be back for the Civil War! See you guys in a few hours.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 2:14 PM PST
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Thank God Griffin didn’t go to the ’Furd…
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 2:19 PM PST
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I dunno. Weren’t we 2-0 against Dixon? The Bears haven’t usually been beaten by mobile quarterbacks.
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Nov 29, 2008 2:22 PM PST
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Baylor is GASHING Tech
Robert Griffin and the run game is carving up that defense.
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Nov 29, 2008 2:37 PM PST
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Now comes 42 points from Texas Tech.
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Nov 29, 2008 2:57 PM PST
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OMG did you see that DeCoud-esque block!
in the BU-TTU game?
The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.
by carp on
Nov 29, 2008 3:00 PM PST
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Is it possible to get a new thread for the Civil War?
were around 100 comments already.
The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.
by carp on
Nov 29, 2008 3:04 PM PST
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Why?
It’s not like we’re going to overflow like we do during a Cal game.
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Nov 29, 2008 3:06 PM PST
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TTech holds on. Texas’s hopes dashed again. Delightful.
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Nov 29, 2008 3:47 PM PST
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Ok. Well, I’m back from Mt. Diablo. Truly gorgeous day today. Except brutally windy. The top was INSANELY windy. It literally blew my sunglasses off my face. But fun hike. I’m incredibly tired. Here’s to OSU!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:05 PM PST
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Really windy? That blows.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:07 PM PST
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Hiyo!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 4:15 PM PST
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It might have also sucked
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Welcome.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on
Nov 29, 2008 11:02 PM PST
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any ideas about online osu/ou action?
Go Bears Go
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Nov 29, 2008 4:08 PM PST
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I can find something in a minute hopefully.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:09 PM PST
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If Oregon is going to win, their passing game has to exist.
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hahaha, Masoli threw the worlds worst pass and then 3 straight quick strikes leading to a TD. Ducks up 7-0.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:21 PM PST
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he can do the three step and throw.
it’s when he’s got to check down/scramble and throw that he blows.
Go Bears Go
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Nov 29, 2008 4:24 PM PST
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I turned over to the Tenn gam eand Erin Andrews was saying that Peyton Manning and Phil Fulmer rode horses up to Rocky Top (I guess it actually exists). Somebody needs to doa brokeback photoshop asap!
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is it bad that I wouldn't mind Oregon winning?
I mean, the Emerald Bowl sucks in terms of prestige compared to the Holiday Bowl, but it’s so close to home…
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Well, I’d kind of like to face one of the great BigXII teams. Esp. if we can snag an overrated Mizzou team!
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Nov 29, 2008 4:33 PM PST
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This is starting poorly for OSU.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:32 PM PST
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Ya, he did on that one play. But Oregon up 10. If Oregon can get up in a positon where they don’t need to rely on their passing game, their offense can be pretty tough to stop.
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Versus has the strangest advertisements. They’re all about hunting and fishing.
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It used to be the Outdoor Life Ntework. Perhaps they have a good relationship with their own advertisers frm the OLN days.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:43 PM PST
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I think McCants closes his eyes once he gets the ball
he’s always running into the line.
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Stroughter would have gotten more yards there if he hadn’t fallen down immediately after receiving the ball.
OSU cannot run the ball at all! Could end poorly.
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TOUCHDOWN OSU! GO BEARS!!!
Also, to a much lesser extent, Beavs.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:44 PM PST
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I love listening to that girl with that banshee wail near the press box. She sounded like she was dying on that 72 yard run.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:48 PM PST
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Oh man that was terrible!
It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.
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Nov 29, 2008 11:28 PM PST
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OSU is not playing like they have a Rose Bowl trip waiting for them.
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Nov 29, 2008 4:49 PM PST
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Actually, they’re playing EXACTLY like the Rose Bowl is on the line for them.
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Well, even if Oregon wins (which would suck a lot!), at least this is ging to be a RELALY good game. Intense stuff. Nonetheless, Go Beavs!
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This is reminding me of Pitt-WV last year.
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They need a run game and they need one soon… .They look completely one sided w/o Quiz.
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I think Oregon just might be the better football team. And they’re rested. That’s my analysis.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:01 PM PST
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My analysis
Needs more fly sweep.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:03 PM PST
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Clausen just threw the ugliest pass ever.
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Where the hell’s this Oregon offense been all year.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:10 PM PST
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At Arizona, first half.
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 5:11 PM PST
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OU-OSU announcer: “he’s going to find dickson, his tight end”
I believe this more accurately describes OSU so far.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:11 PM PST
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offensive pass interference fer sure, i would think.
alaska A residing in colorado.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:12 PM PST
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“Mark Sanchez pass complete to Damian Williams for 4813 yards out-of-bounds for a TOUCHDOWN.”
Anyone watching the USC game care to explain this?
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Nov 29, 2008 5:17 PM PST
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Sanchez threw it AROUND THE WORLD!
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 5:18 PM PST
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The Pac-10 had its first ever bounce pass last week, and now we have pass thrown around the world and caught out of bounds that still manages to be a touchdown. Pretty soon we’ll turn into the AFL.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:20 PM PST
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OKSt interception sets up an OU touchdown. OU leads 7-0
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 5:24 PM PST
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That banshee next to the press box is going to destroy my speakers.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 5:42 PM PST
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Oops
Calling those timeouts backfired
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by Thoroughbred on
Nov 29, 2008 5:42 PM PST
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Absolutely inexcusable on 3rd & 17.
Hello Emerald Bowl
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Nov 29, 2008 5:42 PM PST
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Maybe they won't buy out the Vegas.
Just maybe!
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Nov 29, 2008 5:43 PM PST
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I’m actually hoping for it. I don’t want to go on a roadtrip from Oakland to SF…
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
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Nov 29, 2008 11:10 PM PST
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I sort of want to go to Vegas too.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 11:11 PM PST
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helluva a run
alaska A residing in colorado.
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You guys are just as shocked as I am.
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 5:46 PM PST
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I had a feeling the Ducks would win this in a close one. I did not expect 445 first half yards.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:50 PM PST
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I agree.
this is what happens when you play osu and can pass, and your tail back has explosiveness.
both us and $c couldn’t throw reliably against them, and had limited explosiveness from the tailback. we both lost.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on
Nov 29, 2008 5:48 PM PST
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Can they show the girl with the “These Beavers Smell Like Roses” sign again?
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Nov 29, 2008 5:49 PM PST
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I am very disappointed that I missed that sign.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:51 PM PST
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GET ME A SCREEN CAP IMMEDIATELY!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 5:56 PM PST
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Holy shit I missed what happened
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I'm thankful we beat Oregon
The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:49 PM PST
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I don't know what the fuck the Ducks are doing
Are you kidding me?
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Typical Ducks
Even worse than our Golden Bears
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How we beat Oregon, I don’t know. That is an impressive victory. I was really hoping for a Holiday Bowl. :(! Maybe OSU can change things up in the 2nd half. But this looks bad.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:53 PM PST
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You doubt our ability to blow a 2nd half lead! Ha!
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 5:54 PM PST
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If this were Cal with a 20 point halftime lead, I know I’d be nervous!
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Nov 29, 2008 5:55 PM PST
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Nobody can screw up a 2nd half lead better than Cal. Don’t worry.
This is why I was freaking out when that CV3000 guy was talking so much trash. So stupid! WHY TEMPT THE GODS OF FOOTBALL!?!? Why? Triple Le Sigh.
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And somehow Cal still suffers as a result of this since we’ll be in a lower-tier bowl. Why football gods, why?!
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Nov 29, 2008 6:00 PM PST
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I really shouldn’t have dug up that Indian burial ground, pissed on the corpses, and then turned them all over and reburied them again. That was just a poor decision.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:01 PM PST
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I hate it when that happens?
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 6:01 PM PST
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You hate that and Shuhuskies.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 6:03 PM PST
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Yeah that touchdown in 20 seconds is a sign of things to come.
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This just in:
Oregon State has trouble against Spread offenses…
We should have seen this coming
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OK, I'm saying it now
In terms of Karmic payback, OSU very much deserves to lose. Too much confidence, too much trash talking, too many Rose Bowl references.
Although I would like to know how it feels as a fan base to be playing your ranked rival for the Rose Bowl and not be assuming the worst will happen. I can’t fathom that positive mindset
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Nov 29, 2008 5:56 PM PST
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Imagine the ’Furd beating us to prevent a Rose Bowl berth.
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FUCK THAT
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Did you wake up this morning saying “I hope to make Twist cry today?”
Because if you did, mission accomplished. And fuck you.
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Nov 29, 2008 5:58 PM PST
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USC 14 Notre Dame 0
In the battle of duh.
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Okie State 10 Oklahoma 7
Long way to go, but they’re pounding the ball at the LOS.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:00 PM PST
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Just like Oregon pounding the Beavs all over the place! Hiyo!
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didn't there used to be a "Beaver College" that was, for obvious reasons, renamed?
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
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Nov 29, 2008 6:02 PM PST
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Ya, similar to University of California at Labia Majora, it was just a puzzling naming decision all around.
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Mack Brown doesn't go to the Big 12 Championship if Oklahoma wins or loses
THAT’S WHAT HE GETS.
Unless Coaches vote Texas up…
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Alright… studying turned into a nap… nap turned into oversleeping… i’m awake, i missed 1/2 of the civil war, and now i’m going out to get some food real fast!!!
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 6:15 PM PST
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WAT DID I MISSSSSSS????????
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by HydroTech on
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Washington State is getting an invite to the Rose Bowl.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:16 PM PST
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in a rematch against Washington.
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by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 6:18 PM PST
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 6:19 PM PST
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Fumble?
I think his forward progress was stopped and that he was down. Commentators seem to think it was a legit fumble…if it was and the ref’s don’t give it to them, that’s a 14 point swing on officiating (the bogus PI in the pass that let the OU drive continue to a TD).
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Nov 29, 2008 6:27 PM PST
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That ref in the glasses fills me with no confidence whatsoever
The Bear Will Not Quit
The Bear Will Not Die
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Nov 29, 2008 6:27 PM PST
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Yeah, I think he’s the worst in the conference. Other opinions?
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Nov 29, 2008 6:28 PM PST
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I have seen him at games for years. WTF.
It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.
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Nov 29, 2008 11:32 PM PST
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correct me if I'm wrong...
winning the bowl game is very important for recruiting, next year’s preseason rankings, and going into the offseason with momentum.
I’m thinking an Emerald Bowl matchup against an ACC team might be a good matchup for this years squad. Knocking off a Big 12 team would be awesome but it might be a smidge unrealistic.
Of course, no one really knows how good big 12 teams are because they only play each other and have fluff OOC schedules.
The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.
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Upsetting a Big 12 offense with punishing Golden Bear defense has more upside than pounding on an ACC also-be-ran. But it’s perfectly justifiable to want that.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:32 PM PST
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No upside in playing an ACC team. You get no respect if you win but get jeered if you lose. And games against Miami and co. are very losable (see Maryland)
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Nov 29, 2008 6:36 PM PST
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Holiday Bowl pays much more than Emerald bowl, so it’d be better to go to H-Bowl.
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Also, Pac10, being the commies that they are, splits all the checks. So, 2 BCS teams>1 BCS team.
Oregon is really screwing over the entire Pac10 (including themselves) by doijg this.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:46 PM PST
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They have Phil Knight they could care less….
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
by Spazzy Mcgee on
Nov 29, 2008 11:11 PM PST
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What ACC team would make it to the Emerald?
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#5/#6/#7 According to Wiki
Anyone care to figure out who that might be by season’s end?
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I think Maryland is 5. North Carolina, Miami and Clemson all also qualify.
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Looking at the standings
It could be Maryland, Clemson, Wake Forset, NC, or Miami.
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No way they'l choose Maryland if they want us to come
They come to the Bay next year
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The Beav Will Not Quit
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Nov 29, 2008 6:38 PM PST
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but the beav will be blounted
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The Bear Will Not Die
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The sideline reporter woman sounds like Hillary Clinton.
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I swear they’ve run that off-tackle play about ten times for a thousand yards.
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That made me laugh a lot.
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 6:42 PM PST
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Given how OSU has defended it, why stop calling it?
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Maybe we should run the spread against OSU exclusively...
No team speed on D
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Good job by OSU to get back int ot his, but then Oregon just rips their heart out. People will complain about the officiating, fair enough, but maybe OSU should have played D. God I hate CV3000.
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what’s up with cv3000?
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He was talking SO much trash tis week. And I was all “Let’s try to calm down here.” And nobody calmed! There was no calming! Calming was minimal! AH!
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SC better not nap on Penn State...
If they play like they’d rather be in the Fiesta or Sugar bowls… I see this year ending badly for the Pac
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FUCK THE VERSUS CHANNEL
Nothing good ever comes from this station
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Bah, I turned it off. And by turned it off, I, of course, mean Mrs. TwistNHook wanted to watch “Forbes 20 Richest Celebrity Couples.”
Who knew JLo made more money than Marc Anthony??? Well, I do.
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Nov 29, 2008 6:52 PM PST
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Who are the 20 richest CGB commenters?
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JShufelt has to be up there. He gets all that Phil Knight money. Maybe he can give some to Cal for all he’s taking from us tonight.
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I’ve got a lot, but they are all in Bellotti Bucks, piss poor conversion rate.
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 7:06 PM PST
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With the imminent collapse of the American economy, we’ll all be using Belotti Bucks.
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these announcers are painful
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Oregon is costing the Pac-10 a lot of money tonight…
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each team in the Pac-10 is going to lose over a million dollars tonight.
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Sorry :-(
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Nov 29, 2008 6:56 PM PST
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we’re banning you, Jshufail.
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Fair enough. :-(
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Hey, don’t blame him. It’s not like he’s playing D for OSU. Well, it kinda is. It’s just not him doing it. I don’t know why OSU’s D plan was “What Would JShufelt Do?”, but I have to disagree with that gameplan.
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I do too. I’m an idiot when it comes to gameplans.
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
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Your “Don’t Tackle Oregon” gameplan is not doing great for OSU. One wonders how deeply you care about OSU’s continued athletic success.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:08 PM PST
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I’m the opposite if a defensive genius!
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
by JShufelt on
Nov 29, 2008 7:10 PM PST
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Yes and unfortunately due to your ineptitude, it appears Oregon will win this game. What a coincidence!
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:11 PM PST
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With a slate of irony. Sounds delicious!
It's spelled "S-h-u-h-u-s-k-y-h-a-t-e-r"
by JShufelt on
Nov 29, 2008 7:12 PM PST
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god, I hate irony sometimes. First, grandpa glasses and now this. HIPSTERS!?!?!?
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:15 PM PST
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Cal will go to a lower bowl and miss another .5 to .75 mil.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 6:56 PM PST
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It’s the BCS, the system you love and desire.
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 6:58 PM PST
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I do love it. I love it long time. but it hurts me sometimes, and I don’t know why. I don’t know why i stay in this abusive relationship. I don’t know why. I know the BCS loves me even though it hurts me.
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by HydroTech on
Nov 29, 2008 6:59 PM PST
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The onyl thing the BCS loves is Ohio State and SEC schools. And HydroTech. But mostly Ohio State and SEC schools.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:01 PM PST
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Hey, guess who’s getting into the BCS with an Oregon State loss?
HINT: It rhymes with FuckFries.
by BearsNecessity on
Nov 29, 2008 7:02 PM PST
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HOLY SHIT! UNIVERSITY OF MUMBAI IS GOING TO THE BCS! Hopefully, this can help heal their city after the terrible tragedies of the last few days.
PS So, one OSU is getting traded in for another OSU.
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by TwistNHook on
Nov 29, 2008 7:04 PM PST
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And Mack Brown. Never forget Mack Brown.
(☞゚∀゚)☞
by Berkelium97 on
Nov 29, 2008 7:02 PM PST
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