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Pac10 Roundtable Week 12

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Boo!  That's so scary!  Oh noes! Run!  Here's another thing that's scary.  Football season is almost over.  Also, imminent financial collapse of the world's economy.  What?  That's horrific!  Almost over!?!?!  OH NOES!  Just three games remaining.  And we don't even know much about that third game.  Except that it won't be in Pasadena.

That might be the scariest fact of them all right there.

Either way, we are ramping up basketball coverage.  We have all worked together to get some basketball related questions in there.  I am sure as football season winds up and basketball season continues forward, the focus will shift.

Oregon State will be represented by Building the Dam.  The Washington schools chime in with CougCenter and our newest SBN blog, UW Dawg Pound.  Conquest Chronicles and What's Bruin, Dawg? corner the SoCal market.  Finally, Pitchfork Nation comes to us from the hot state of Arizona.

Behind the fold, find the questions.  And, to a much lesser extent, the answers.  We brought our heads together to bring you these bad boys, so I hope you enjoy them!

Finally, we've been posting a lot recently.  Check it:  B-Ball Recap; Arizona analysis; Marshawn v. Browns; Top25; Bowl Scenarios; OSU Thoughts; Pete Newell Memories; Big Game Memories 

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1.  The Pac-10 has 7 bowl contracts to fill and currently only 5 spots filled. Stanford, UCLA, and Arizona State all sit in the middle of the Pac with 6 losses. Out of those three teams, which, if any, will make it to post-season play?

I'm gonna go with none.  Cal, Arizona, and USC will all win their rivalry games to keep the Cardinal, Sun Devils, and Bruins home for the Holidays.  I think Arizona State's got the best shot, though, finishing vs. UCLA and @ Arizona.

A bigger question:  do any of these teams deserve to play in a bowl game?  6-6 is hardly something for most teams to be proud of, though Stanford at least looks like a team on the rise, especially given where previous coaches Buddy Teevens and Walt Harris had left this program.

For the teams that miss bowl season, they can spend the time playing "what if?"  What if Arizona State hadn't lost at home to a middling UNLV squad back in September?  What if Stanford hadn't given away late leads at Oregon and UCLA?  Only UCLA, who went 1-2 vs. Tennessee, BYU, and Fresno State and competed in the Pac-10 despite being down 1 quarterbacks and a host of other injured starters, can really look in the mirror and say "it was never meant to be this season."

2. Is there anybody NOT rooting for OSU to win out and go to the Rose Bowl?  Anybody?  I think even Pete Carroll has to have a spot in his heart for this story.  And if OSU does win the Pac10, pushing USC to 2nd, do you think USC will make a BCS game or find itself in the Holiday Bowl? 

Ultimately, it appears USC will get a BCS spot.  Now, that they have switched from 2 at large bids to 4.  Coulda helped Cal lo those many years ago (i.e. 4).  But hey whatever helps USC and hurts Cal, right?

3.  Let's take a stroll down b-ball lane.  What are your Pac10 rankings for B-Ball?

Hey, why does basketball get to be b-ball?  What about baseball?  Or, for that matter, bocce ball?  Bowling ball?  Base-ketball?  Brontosaurus-ball?  Every one just as legitimate as an abbreviation as basketball.

Anyway, what about this ranking?

1. UCLA
...
some other teams
...
10. Oregon State

Oh, you wanted me to rank all of them?  Oh, I dunno.  How about this?

1. Bruins
2. Sun Devils
3. Cougars
4. Trojans
5. Ducks
6. Wildcats
7. Bears
8. Cardinal
9. Huskies
10. Beavers

PS What is your Pac10 B-Ball ranking?  And don't cheat off your neighbor.  No peeking!  Or, alternatively, peaking.

4.  Now that we've seen your B-Ball Top 10 (with assuredly UCLA at the top and OSU at the bottom), who is your surprise team this year?  And why is it Cal?

Hey, don't rule Cal out of this thing.  I know that their chances would be a lot higher were they to still have Ryan Anderson.  But they will have offensive firepower.  They always had a lot of shooters with players like Theo Robertson and PatChris.  They just had a) injuries to Theo, b) a terrible offensive game plan under former coach Ben Braun and c) poor PG play.

Now, with Monty in there, the PG play should improve.  Theo is healthy.  And you know Monty will have a solid offensive game plan.  Can't be worse than Ben "Pass the ball around the perimeter for 33 seconds before throwing up an off balance 3" Braun. 

Throw some modicum of defense in there and maybe something will happen. 

5.  With the legendary Lute Olsen out at Arizona, what are their chances of making the tournament this year?

50/50?  Honestly, it seems like Arizona has been in decline for the last couple years, with more of their top players leaving early for the NBA, and the overall talent level in Tucson hasn't been what it once was.  Chase Budinger returning means this team will still win a bunch of games and be competitive in the rest, but Nic Wise is no Jerryd Bayless, and the coaching turmoil has got to have some effect on this team.  Last night's loss at home to UAB may not be the last surprising loss the Wildcats suffer this year.

 

So, there you go.  What are your answers to these 5 questions?  Go Bears!

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Ducks at 5?

pure insantity. We already lost to the power that is Oakland (Michigan)….at home…

--www.AddictedToQuack.com, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Nov 20, 2008 7:33 AM PST reply actions  

So that score was real?!?

I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me when I saw that scroll on the bottom of the ESPN ticker.

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Nov 20, 2008 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

ugh

and Arizona already lost to UAB. yeah, ducks may be too high, but i think the pac-10 as a whole will be way down this year.

where do you have the ducks? 7? 8?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 20, 2008 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

PAC-10 Basketball....

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Nov 20, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Bowies in space — but which one?

by sec119 on Nov 20, 2008 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't the media poll have the Ducks at 9?

The Bruins are soft inside, Here’s some good ol’ fashioned homerism…

1t. UCLA
1t. ASU
3. WSU (Yay, football season’s over)
4. $C
5. Zona
6t. Bears
6t. UDub
8. Oregon
9. OSU
345. Furd

...Scuzzlin fo a Jack in Da Box

by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2008 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

If memory serves, the media poll at the Ducks at 7th, Cal 8th, and stanfurd 9th.

My unscientific try on this—
1. UC-southern branch campus
2. ASU
3. SC
4. WSU
5. Arizona
6. UO
7. CAL
8. UW
9. stanfurd
10. OSU

Realizing just how much Aaron Rodgers spoiled us.

by Ohio Bear on Nov 20, 2008 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

I’d like to see a scientific try at this!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 20, 2008 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

For a second there I thought you were going to introduce a theme ingredient…

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 20, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I peaked an hour ago...

1. UCLA
2. ASU
3. USC
4. WSU
5. UW
6. Cal
7. Arizona
8. Oregon
9. Stanford
10. OSU

7 in a row, baby!

by johnnycougar on Nov 20, 2008 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t necessarily think that Cal is going to make the tourney. They have a very similar team to the Dubs when they made the playoffs. Minimal inside presence, focus on outside shooting, minimal D. The dfff is that Baron wasplaying at a much higher level (respective to their leagues) than Randle.

So, we are going to need the O to be in high gear at all times to win games. But I think we can shock a few people.

I think we can at least be middle of the pack. Maybe better than these teams: OSU, Stanford, Oregon, UW. Maybe Arizona if they fall apart with Lute out. I don’t think we are better than WSU, USC, ASU, and UCLA. So, middle of the pack, not bad.

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Nov 20, 2008 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

I'm warching $C right now

Taj Gibson is a SAVAGE… I revise: Trojans are the best Pac-10 team this year. No one’s going to stop Gibson and DeRozan.

...Scuzzlin fo a Jack in Da Box

by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2008 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

Not a good sign for the Pac, considering they lost to Seton Hall.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 20, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you watch this?

They were up by 15 at the half and missed literally every shot in the 2nd half. I still think they’re good, and Gibson almost got a double-double-double. The Pac looks way down, and this bodes well for Cal.

...Scuzzlin fo a Jack in Da Box

by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2008 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

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