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DBD 11.18.08 Et Tu, House Of Sparky?

Sometimes I feel so alone.  Living in the big city, surrounded by all the big people.  But they don't understand me.  They don't know my pain.

Yknow, it's not the same for other people.  For USC fans, hey you got Bruins Nation.  And for UCLA fans, Conquest Chronicles.  Oregon and OSU fans, they got Addicted to Quack and Building the Dam.  Even CougCenter (CougCenter!) has the ever mysterious UWDawgPound. 

But us?  We have nobody.  Nothing.  Stanford students aren't bright enough to start a sports blog.  Stanford sports aren't interesting enough to be blogged about.  So, where does that leave us?  Well, there is one other Pac10 team in our predicament:  House of Sparky.  They find themselves in an endless abyss of non-hating.  Arizona fans suck as much as Stanford fans. 

So, I propose we hate House of Sparky as if they were a Stanford blog.  They too have nobody to hate.  They can hate us back!  This should work perfectly.  We don't want to be those lame-os during the slow dance walking around the dance floor, pretending like we had a dance partner, but just can't find her.  You know the move I'm talking about.

Walking around with your face scrunched in confusion and your shoulders shrugged in complacency.  Oh ya, a real life actual human female HAD agreed to dance with us, but we just can't find her.  I'm sure she's around here somewhere and she'll show up very soon.  Just like my girlfriend from camp.

So, anyway, I'm not sure how we tell House of Sparky we've decided unilaterally to invade and occupy their blog as if its a Stanford blog.  Any suggestions?

 

Also, here is the Big Game Spirit Event list again:

Monday: Cable Car Rally... Noon at Union Square


Tuesday: Big Sail in SF at 12:30.... Night Rally... 9pm start at Bowles

 

Wednesday: Guardsmen Luncheon at Fairmont, 11am, Rally on Union Square... 12:30pm.....at Momo's restaurant in SF.... 7:30ish

 

Thursday: Treechopping Rally on Sproul 12pm, but no band there.... spirit yes

 

Friday: Noon Rally on Sproul, Bonfire at 7..... band will also be in City at Royal Exchange/Schroeders around 8ish

Can anybody clarify where the Big Sail starts?

 

Sentences handed down in Tree-Sitting case:

BERKELEY (AP) ― Three of the people accused of involvement in a tree-sitting protest against a sports training center at the University of California, Berkeley are facing jail time.

Alameda County Superior Court Judge Marshall Whitley sentenced Kingman Lim, Zachary RunningWolf Brown and Michael Schuck to five days in prison Monday and ordered them to pay an amount that has yet to be determined toward the university's attorney fees.

The judge sentenced six other people involved in the protest to 50 hours of community service each.

The nine people sentenced were accused of violating a court order intended to stop the protest.

Here is a complete list of tributes to Pete Newell.

VBall to take on SoCal teams:

Since stunning rival Stanford (currently ranked No. 2) on the Cardinal's home floor for the first time in 29 years (Oct. 19), the No. 7-ranked California volleyball team has won just three of its last seven matches. The Golden Bears look to right the ship with their four remaining regular season matches beginning with bouts against visiting Southern California teams, No. 9 UCLA and No. 10 USC. Cal will try to sweep the season series against the Bruins for first time in program history after claiming a 3-2 win at Pauley Pavilion Oct. 24. The Bears also have revenge on their minds as the Trojans come to Haas Pavilion on Senior Night. Cal fell in five sets to the women of Troy when they met in Los Angeles; the team's first Pac-10 loss. The Bears celebrate the career accomplishments of seniors Morgan Beck, Kat Reilly and Am'ra Solomon as they close out regular-season home matches for 2008. The volleyball matches are but a part of a big weekend on the Berkeley campus as men's and women's basketball are in action as well. On Saturday, Nov. 22, Cal's match against USC follows the 111th Big Game taking place at Memorial Stadium at 12:30 p.m. The Bears will also take on the Cardinal in men's water polo at Spieker Pool with first sprint at 10 a.m. Check CalBears.com for schedules, updates and information on all 27 of Cal's intercollegiate athletic teams.

THE FACTS: No. 7 Cal (20-5, 10-4 Pac-10) completes its regular-season home schedule by hosting No. 9 UCLA (18-8, 8-7 Pac-10) on Friday (Nov. 21) at 5 p.m. and No. 10 USC (16-8, 9-6 Pac-10) on Saturday (Nov. 22) at 5 p.m. The Golden Bears will honor their seniors during pre-match ceremonies prior to the match against USC. The Senior Night match will be broadcast live by Fox Sports Net. Paul Sunderland will call the action with Holly McPeak and Karch Kiraly providing color commentary. Live statistics through Gametracker and streaming video are also available via links at CalBears.com.

FREE FOR ALL: Both of this weekend's matches feature free admission for all youth 12th grade and below with valid student identification.

Men's soccer to take on USF:

The No. 10 California men's soccer team earned its eighth straight bid to the NCAA Championships when the 48-team field was announced Monday afternoon. The Golden Bears (10-3-5, 5-2-3) will host San Francisco in a first-round contest Friday, Nov. 21, at 1:30 p.m. at Edwards Stadium. The winner will play UC Santa Barbara in the second round on Tuesday, Nov. 25, at 7 p.m. in Santa Barbara.

This is Cal's 15th appearance in the NCAA Tournament, which is also called the College Cup. Under head coach Kevin Grimes, a four-time Pac-10 Coach of the Year (2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007), Cal has amassed a 6-7-1 record in the postseason. Overall, the Bears have a 6-14-1 record in the national tournament.

The Bears and Dons (9-9-2, 7-4-1) have already met this year. Cal beat USF, 2-0, on Sept. 26 at Edwards Stadium.

Mens XC going to NCAA Championships:

BERKELEY - For the second time in school history, and for the second consecutive year, the California men's cross country team will compete as a team in the NCAA Championships. The No. 20 Golden Bears received an at-large bid to the 2008 NCAA Division I Men's and Women's Cross Country Championships Monday, Nov. 24, at the LaVern Gibson Championship Course located at the Wabash Valley Family Sports Center in Terre Haute, Ind.

The majority of Cal's success this season can be attributed to the strong performances of seniors Yosef Ghebray and Mark Matusak. Ghebray paced the Bears at last Saturday's NCAA West Regional, taking seventh overall. Junior Michael Coe and sophomore Kari Karlsson have also been valuable contributors in the lineup.

Montgomery quotes:

On the passing of Pete Newell:
I knew Pete fairly well. Pete was a great ambassador for basketball in general, a very gracious man. He was good to everybody, had time for everybody and has had a tremendous influence on the game of basketball, so basically I think the game of basketball has lost a great friend. The '59 team (NCAA champions), all those guys are still very active and have stuck together, which you tend to do when you win. That's a great catalyst for a university.

On his memories of USF coach Rex Walters as a young player:
I recruited Rex out of high school, really liked him, but it didn't work out, which was really unfortunate because Rex was a very good player.

On the Dons' style under Rex Walters:
They're playing well. They've chosen a style that's a bit unorthodox and it's been paying dividends for them. They're very active. Walters has got pretty good athletes and pretty good numbers, so he's picked a style that's disruptive, trying to get you out of flow. It's kind of a matchup - first they'll pester-press after made [baskets] or dead balls, and go back to some kind of a match-up zone, switching man-to-man, however you want to characterize it, with the theory that you won't be able to run your stuff, that you'll get out of sorts and that you'll break down, which they've had some success with. They're looking to turn you over, get you confused and run out of that.

Former Cal golfer going to PGA Tour:

BERKELEY - Peter Tomasulo, who finished his California career as a two-time All-American and two-time All-America Scholar following the Golden Bears' 2004 NCAA National Championship, secured his 2009 PGA TOUR card after finishing the 2008 Nationwide Tour at No. 11 on the money list.

Tomasulo ended his season with a fifth-place finish Sunday, November 9, at the Nationwide Tour Championship at TPC Craig Ranch in Dallas, Texas. The top-25 money winners on the Nationwide Tour received PGA cards.

Peter now joins former Cal great Charlie Wi as the second Golden Bear to compete on the PGA TOUR.

Womens gymnastics gets new recruits:

BERKELEY - The California women's gymnastics team has signed six recruits for next season, as announced by head coach Cari DuBois. The signees will join the Golden Bears in the fall of 2009. Five of the six signees are from California, while the other comes to Berkeley from Illinois.

DuBois' six newcomers are Nicolette Lew (Chino Hills, Calif.), Stina Olivere (Naperville, Ill.), Arla Rosenzweig (Los Altos, Calif.), Chelsea Spomer (Forestville, Calif.), Madisyn O'Brien (Sebastopol, Calif.) and Mariesah Pierce (Aptos, Calif.).

"We have had our eye on these ladies for quite some time," DuBois said. "All six of these ladies are strong all-arounders. Not only are they talented, but they are also brillant and have great personalities. Their energy and their passion for the sport are contagious. This is definitely my largest scholarship recruiting class ever and we are looking forward to having a couple more walk-ons to help build this program.

Lew was a Level 10 national and regional qualifier in 2008 and 2007. As a national qualifier, she took sixth on vault in 2008 and placed 19th in the all-around in 2007. As a regional qualifier she finished fourth in the all-around in 2007, including second on vault and floor and third on beam. Lew was also a two-time state champion on bars and in the all-around and also won the championship on bars in 2008 and floor in 2007.

Olivere was a four-time Level 10 state/regional qualifier and a three-time Level 9 state/regional qualifier, including a championship on bars at nationals.

Rosenzweig won the state championship on floor last year and was a regional qualifier. In 2006, she was the all-around state champion and the regional bars champion.

Spomer was a three-time level 10 regional qualifier and a 2008 first alternate for nationals. She placed third in the all around at the state championships in 2008. Spomer was also the Level 8 regional vault champion.

Football bowl tidbits from Okanes:

I talked on the phone today with Bruce Binkowski, the executive director of the Holiday Bowl. He clarified that if there is a two-way tie in the spot his bowl picks, the berth would go to the team that won the head-to-head matchup.

That could be good news for the Bears if everything shakes down in their favor. If Oregon State wins out and goes to the Rose Bowl and USC doesn’t hiccup against Notre Dame and UCLA, both teams should be in BCS games. The Trojans surely will be selected for another BCS game if they win out.

If that happens and Cal wins out, the Bears would finish in a tie with Oregon for the Holiday Bowl slot. That means the Bears would get the berth by virtue of their regular season win over the Ducks.

Big Game Week festivities:

Big Game week got going in earnest this morning with the annual luncheon featuring both coaches and players from each school. Coach Jeff Tedford was there at Perry’s in San Francisco, along with linebacker Worrell Williams and right guard Noris Malele (Linebacker Zack Follett also was supposed to appear but had to beg out because of treatment).

Obviously, one of the major storylines for the Bears is they are in the position of trying to get the axe back, something that hasn’t happened since Tedford’s first year. Tedford and the players said you don’t really realize the magnitude of the rivalry until you’re on the losing side of it.

“Now that we lost the game, now it’s big,” Williams said. “(Stanford) is not just some team that we beat up on all the time. They beat up on us. Now it’s really a big game, especially for me. That was my first time losing to them. Now it’s really back as a rivalry.

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Cal nabs another nice recruit

Big safety Alex Logan out of Denver…

ESPNU likes him a little more than Rivals…

Look at his eval here:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?page=evaluation&recruitId=59

A nice compliment to that speedy DB Steve Williams who de-committed from Oklahoma (assuming he stays with Cal)

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 7:25 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice link to Gerard Ross.

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 7:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His hometown is (null), FL. I guess there’s no there, there.

by sec119 on Nov 18, 2008 7:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gerard Ross graduated from FSU in 2005 (See FSU bio: http://seminoles.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/ross_gerard00.html). null = Jacksonville, who knew?

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 7:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Safety is not an easy position to recruit. Usually teams just convert guys that mostly played CB and were a bit slower or convert LB’s that were a bit too small but have good pass instincts. If you can land a true safety out of high school with this sort of evaluation, there are good things on the way.

This was really needed by the way. Presumably, verbal commits will start coming in at a faster pace.

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 8:13 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re having loads of recruits coming to the Big Game, including Devon Kennard and some elite receivers, so I’d think we’ll hear more soon. Tedford and company seem to be strategizing differently this year, going after more of the elite players and recruiting outside of CA a whole bunch. You gotta believe Al Simmons and Kevin Daft have had something to do with the DB recruits. I don’t think we’ll have as many open scholarships as we’ve had the past couple of years either, so we’ll probably have a small class.

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 8:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is the Cal program good enough

to cut scholarship players in the event that, you know, they suck?

Agreed on the Big Game and recruits…let’s show ’em our very best effort! This Big Game is Big indeed.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I totally put that in the DBD! Ai!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Big Sail at San Francisco Yacht Club

See more complete information on all big game events at alumni.berkeley.edu/athletics

It also shows Men’s Basketball vs North Carolina A&T in Walnut Creek? Monday at 7:30? Can someone explain why the hell I’d want to go to Walnut Creek?

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:13 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also other Saturday Events

Time Event Location
9:00 a.m. Men’s Waterpolo vs Stanford Spieker Pool
10:00 a.m. March to Victory Memorial Stadium
10:15 a.m. Fun Zone Maxwell Field
11:00 a.m. Pre-game Rally Sproul
12:30 p.m. Cal vs Stanford Memorial Stadium
7:00 p.m. Women’s Volleyball vs UCLA Haas Pavilion

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

w v-ball vs. UCLA

I might have to go to that one…

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:27 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm not sure it would be a good idea to bring a working buzz

into the gym with hot, blonde women running around in short shorts. Things could escalate and get out of hand…

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:57 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or in hand if you’re lucky.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 10:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You forgot to mention the requisite 9:00 am to 12:00 pm pre-game drinking and the 4:00 pm to 2:00 am celebration drinking. A post-game meal will be one hell of an event too.

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 9:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This just in, celebratory burritos are now mandatory! Burrito Up, people!

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:40 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Water Polo is at 10:00, not at 9:00. And volleyball is Vs. USC, not Vs. UCLA.

Go Bears!

by RollOnYouBears667 on Nov 18, 2008 7:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Walnut Creek?

That can’t be correct. I can’t even imagine where they’d play that game.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 9:37 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction

You were right, Rags, as always. According to the Bear’s Athletic Site:

North Carolina A&T
(Global Sports Classic)
Day: Monday
Date: Nov. 24, 2008
Location: Berkeley, Calif.
Time: 7:30 p.m. PT

Perhaps, SOMEONE who works at the CAA could tell the IT dept to fix that real quick?

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also, that should be Bears’

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My one bedroom apartment probably wouldn’t work.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:20 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To play basketball or argue supply side economics?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 12:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we talk about the supply of basketballs?

It's spelled "S-h-u-t-a-b-r-i-c-k".

by JShufelt on Nov 18, 2008 12:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oregn fans. Always thinking!

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 12:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To see me?

Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:19 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 11:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You asked why you’d go to Walnut Creek. I see you hate me.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:21 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

'furd graduate and Yahoo CEO to step down

didn’t take the Microsoft deal at $33/share…now Yahoo stock is $11/share I think.

said in my best Marty voice (from The Big Lebowski): Do you see what happens when you graduate from ’furd?

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:24 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you mean Walter?

Marty is the landlord/ballerina

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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2008 9:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

The Big Game events are kinda lame.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 9:28 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd!

Oh irrational hatred, you taste so good in my mouth... Tangy, like sour candy.

by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 9:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 6:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

College football...

… where unmitigated homoeroticism happens!

by slims on Nov 18, 2008 6:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Screw the Big 3. Let them fail.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 9:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not a believer in the Big 3 goes down - so does the GOP theory?

I don’t know if that’s a good theory or not. It was all over section B of the liberal elitist Chronicle though…

hard to see them getting the Midwest blue collar folks in the next few elections. No US auto industry, combined with our currrent dependence on foreign oil, means no U.S. profits on autos. Isn’t this a big part of the GOP and the economy in general?

Also, I’m trying to keep this as non-political as possible. I think it’s an interesting and pertinent issue to briefly talk about. Paulson pulled of one of the biggest bait-and-switches in history. It was almost Mariucci like.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:55 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I get what you’re saying, but I’m not sure that it’s the main point.

I’m not a member of the Republican party – I believe in what I believe in. I believe that if the US auto sector is inefficient, it shouldn’t be bailed out again and again. Danzig’s LBO idea is enticing and I could potentially see the logic in that, but an all-out bailout I am definitely not in favour of, whatever its ramifications on the political parties may be.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 10:20 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cool...good stuff.

hard to disagree about the US auto industry…where was their foresight? 60 minutes had the CEO of Chevy on a few weeks ago and they were talking about the Chevy Volt project that’s been taking FOREVER.

I find this whole bailout thing in general a little disingenuous. Combine the economy with global warming…the future sounds like a scary place.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 10:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The future is always a scary place and the current economic crisis is always the worst since the Great Depression.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 10:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RoFL!

What are we looking at and counting on!?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 18, 2008 5:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rishi, Carp,

I don’t give a damn about the politics of it… I look at it more practically.

Letting them fail is ideologically sound, but practically a disaster. Letting them go bankrupt is also a dumb idea… if the economy were stable, I would be totally for bankruptcy… I’m a big hater of the Big3, I think they’re awful, politically corrupt companies… but the timing is totally wrong for bankruptcy…

First off, it would increase our trade deficit, lower our global credit ratings and weaken our currency… and given the amount of spending we’ve been doing and the War, our currency is on the brink. This bleeds down into all sorts of financial transactions and valuations and has a shadow effect far greater than 3mil lost jobs.

Anyway, in order for bankruptcy to work, you need bridge or DIP financing, LOTS OF IT… nobody would be willing to provide DIP financing right now, not even the government, because it implies the assets have value….they don’t… it literally would be throwing the financing away…You’re only providing time for them to liquidate the already worthless assets… I’d be surprised if they even got 1X book value right now… plus you get all the job losses anyway (only with a 6m delay). Lots of value would be destroyed, would be totally inefficient and only make our Japanese and German competitors stronger… MUCH, MUCH STRONGER…. is that what we want?

The big issue is the union contracts and health care costs… Labor costs for Toyota is HALF that of the Big3… almost all to do with health care costs (toyota has unions too) … this is almost all to do with US health care costs growing at 15% per year for the last 15 years… while Germany and Japan have national health systems that are far better and cost less. So without health care reform, the Big3 can’t compete unless their product is superior.

We know the Big3 management can no longer get any concessions out of the UAW… but an neutral 3rd party like the Treasury can negotiate a deal much better for everyone because the Treasury has the LOWEST COST OF CAPITAL… and the man with the lowest cost of capital has the best negotiating power.

Bankruptcy destroys value, while LBO unlocks it. This is where the LBO comes in… the hard part about doing the LBO its size and the unions… only the Treasury has the size and cost of capital to get additional concessions out of the unions.

Plus nobody buys cars from companies that are in bankruptcy… they know the followup maintenance won’t be there… but they will buy cars from companies under new visionary management.

This is how we prevent from destroying value. We get Lazard and Wasserstein to do the lead managing of the LBO, with Treasury financing… then we appoint a visionary CEO like Jeff Bezos, Steve Jobs, the Google Boys (generally someone with PR value)… then they cut, cut, cut until they have a company 1/3rd the size, with low cost of capital… and they make and launch some revolutionary cars. Nobody buys cars from bankrupt companies… they do buy cars from visionary new management with new financing. And they will buy cars from Steve Jobs… TRUST ME.


VWs, 235mpg car (launching in 2010)… after spending all their time with large gas guzzlers and nearly going bankrupt for it…they’re finally turning it around with new management (new since 2007) and vision.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 10:46 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

This week’s economist thinks bankruptcy is a swell idea, actually:

http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12601932

In many ways, Chapter 11 was designed for just such a contingency. For all their present agonies, both Ford and GM have good long-term prospects. They have relatively healthy businesses in Europe and have been doing well in emerging markets, such as China, where there is vast potential.

They are also nearing the final stage of a lengthy and painful restructuring of their North American operations. Two million units of capacity have been stripped out; factories are being converted to produce more fuel-efficient cars; and a landmark deal with the United Auto Workers union in 2007 paved the way to cutting $1,000 of costs on every car they make from next year.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:06 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Economist is always right, except when they endorse Obama.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:26 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?good….one?

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Welcome.
But Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:32 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spaz

This OpEd was either written by someone that doesn’t know much about the auto industry… or someone with an agenda…notice this OpEd wasn’t signed.

This article is making a few key assumptions… all of which are wrong or misleading.

Everyone agrees that you never want large corporations to just go away… it hurts our economy….it’s always best for the economy if the crap company were to die slowly rather than instantly, so that jobs can shift etc….This is a good assumption and is true.

Therefore there are many pundits out there telling us this is exactly what bankruptcy is for… so that a company can sell assets while still operating and basically survive or die slowly.

However, they’re making some incorrect assumptions (or just not thinking it through).

Assumption #1: That the Big3 can get more concessions and renegotiate with the UAW because bankruptcy would be able to break the union contracts.
– They can break the contracts but the result will be horrible… First off, what do you think the Big3 has been trying to do for the past two years…? What about the other times the Big3 have been on the brink.

The UAW are a bunch of assholes, but they have been giving up concessions for the past six years… They’ve been squeezed as much as possible already, there’s nothing more to give other than breaking all the pension contracts with the retirees… which will force a million people fully onto the social security system… which is basically forcing the gov into a pure BAILOUT anyway. Nothing more can be negotiated between the Big3 and the UAW… we need a neutral 3rd party with a lower cost of capital to step in…. all new management and a new visionary CEO. The Big3’s cost of capital is so high they can’t offer anything to the UAW anymore…

Assumption #2: After they emerge from bankruptcy they’ll be well positioned with cars like the Volt and will be self sustainable again. … Ok, we’ve tried this already with the Big3 and the airlines… First off companies emerging from bankruptcy almost always lose marketshare and fail again… this is because people don’t buy products from bankrupt companies… secondly, when they emerge from bankruptcy in 2010, the Chevy Volt and others will already be obsolete… the VW I posted above has the same launch time as the Volt and already blows it away… Toyota and Honda will also have better cars and they won’t be emerging from bankruptcy. Consumers will avoid the Big3 unless there is visionary change.

Finally, this doesn’t address the real problem… the unions and healthcare costs… we need an honest 3rd party broker with low cost of capital to take over the Big3, renegotiate the contracts and restructure it… not destroy value by allowing the Big3 to go bankrupt again… which almost always kills the brand name for several years.

Just as a general rule, bankruptcy destroys value while restructuring unlocks it. We need to do something regardless just to not mess with our fragile economy right now… but if we’re going to do something… lets do it wisely.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 12:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Danzig, none of the economist’s articles are signed. Other than the regular columnists (Lexington, Buttonwood etc…) the view is considered the view of the newspaper as a whole, not an individual one. This is to prevent people from going “ZOMG written by so-and-so he totally has an agenda!!!”

I can’t really speak for assumption #1, but as for assumption #2, if you read the article you would have gleaned that both companies ARE well positioned, at least in overseas markets.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 12:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beat you to it.

And, of course, Lexington, etc. are not the real names of people.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 12:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, his name really ISN’T Lexington Steele?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 1:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but it should be.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha.. didn’t know that….The crazy part about it is I’m a subscriber!… but I haven’t read it in ages.

haha.. didn’t know that….The crazy part about it is I’m a subscriber!… but I haven’t read it in ages.I was going to address the Big3 in overseas markets in a third assumption but my post was getting too long. Bottom line, Ford is the low price option in Europe and the advancement of the Euro has alot to do with the gains in Europe. Plus this is all about how we can preserve our own economy… not Ford as a company…

haha.. didn’t know that….The crazy part about it is I’m a subscriber!… but I haven’t read it in ages.I was going to address the Big3 in overseas markets in a third assumption but my post was getting too long. Bottom line, Ford is the low price option in Europe and the advancement of the Euro has alot to do with the gains in Europe. Plus this is all about how we can preserve our own economy… not Ford as a company…The only part I agree with is there is opportunity in Asia.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 1:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s not the ONLY crazy part. ahaha.

Wait, who didn’t know what?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 1:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A point before the rest: the Economist never signs their OpEds. In fact, all articles in the Economist are anyonymous unless they have a special guest writer.

Second, the UAW, as you’ve said, are at the forefront of this problem. I slightly agree with the Economist that bankruptcy would force them into a position that would be more beneficial to the auto industry.

Furthermore, comparing the airline industry to the auto industry isn’t really fair – a lot of what happened to the airline industry when they needed government funding came about with decreased consumer confidence post-9/11. No such shock has really been in effect here in the auto industry.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 12:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

Just because I’m center-left in political thinking doesn’t mean I’m going to support the UAW no matter what… the UAW are a bunch of assholes. They don’t give a shit if the companies they work for are viable companies or not… plus the extortion game is getting old. I hate the UAW. A classic case study you learn in biz school about the negative effects of auto unions is British Leyland… and UAW reminds me of them. Look them up.

Then again, most of the problems all stem from healthcare costs… so essentially the unions and lack of vision from the Big3 management is only partially to blame. If healthcare costs grew in step with inflation, then the Big3 would just be losing marketshare… instead of being on the brink.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 1:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting article

So, if I read the argument right (and there is a very strong possibility that I didn’t), chapter 11 is a stable option for them to renegotiate contracts while at the same time freeing up resources that are locked into the Big3 which could be used in new enterprises (such as what might come from an Obama New Green Deal).

I’m going to blithely call this the ‘ripping off the band-aid’ theory. Allowing fresh air to reach a stale marketplace which still has a lot of emerging markets in developing countries to use for healing growth.

Now, it does NOT address the trade deficit and currency warnings which Danzig brought up. Which is why I suggest that Danzig go off and save the world. Danzig, can you please fix this whole situation?

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by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 11:33 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It does not address the trade deficit and currency warnings because it is an article about the American car industry…

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:41 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RoFL!

What are we looking at and counting on!?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 18, 2008 5:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My nolej of this is minimal, but isn’t there a chance that the could go from C11 to C7. Which would lead to their dismantling? Am I wrong in ymy understanding?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 12:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is that a 3-wheeler?

awesome!

Thanks for the insightful post! My head’s burried in the chemistry field so I don’t get to venture out too much!

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 11:09 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good luck? We’re counting on you?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 1:49 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RoFL!

What are we looking at and counting on!?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 18, 2008 5:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again with the LBO! Stop with the LBO!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree – I’m over the Large Big Orangutan

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See, my issue, independently of the logistics of it all, is that I’m not afraid of specialization. America is not as efficient in producing cars. Yes, part of it has to do with health care costs and unions, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that they simply produce inferior products less efficiently. Germany and Japan can specialize in automobiles, America can move those workers into other sectors and evolve.

That said, it’s easy to sit from a desk and not consider the human costs of a number of auto workers losing their jobs. Hell, perhaps the financial bailout saved my job. I don’t know.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:28 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Uh, foreign car companies have humongous factories in the US that employ thousands of workers… I don’t think “America is inefficient in producing cars” is an accurate statement.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

America is inefficient at managing car companies?

I think not enough flexibility and R&D, they relied on what America IS really good at — Marketing and PR — which can only bring you so far.

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by AndBears on Nov 18, 2008 11:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RoFL!

What are we looking at and counting on!?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 18, 2008 5:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad, I phrased that one incorrectly. American companies are inefficient in the production of cars.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This still isn’t true. The Ford Mondeo, Focus, and Fiesta made for the Euro area are brilliant cars, and profitable, in Europe. To ship them here is what would make it unprofitable. And GM sells a ton of cheapo cars in China (GM is considered a “cool” brand there, plus the Chinese hate buying Japanese-made stuff), which are profitable because they don’t have to negotiate ridiculous union contracts and comparitively stringent emissions/safety features (which lowers the cost of production/car dramatically). And, as the article pointed out, since there is more or less 1 car/1 driveable-age person in the US and only 3/100 in China, there is a friggin HUGE market for exactly the type of stuff GM wants to sell there. Which is why bankruptcy protection in the US makes so much sense: reorganize the company, shift away from the American market, go to China, profit!

More accurate might be “American companies are inefficient in the production of cars for the American market.” And “inefficient” is still probably the wrong word, since both GM and Ford made tremendous profit on pretty much all SUV sales.

Even more accurate would be “American car companies stupidly overlooked the fact that profitable SUV sales would not last forever and that not shifting factory capacity to produce more for-the-times cars with decent interiors was a bad idea.”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

asterisk: GM and Ford made tremendous profit on pretty much all SUV sales until a few years ago.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 11:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This photo amuses me.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

note to self

don’t dress in a skimpy outfit and stand next to an even hotter coed in front of tens of thousands of people while holding a “HO-” sign.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It wouldn’t be tough for you to stand next to an even hotter coed.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Caption Contest?

I make carp look like an idiot.

by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 2:32 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmmm

not sure if that would mean that, you know, I’m hot.

or

if a hot coed would be nowhere nere carp.

I’m thinking it’s the latter

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or anybody ever would be a “hot coed” compared to you.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sure – which is why letting them file for Chapter 11 would enable them to restructure to become more efficient.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 12:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh. Fine. Go a head, Finish this up before I finish mine up.
I see how it is.
Pthththt!

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by JShufelt on Nov 18, 2008 12:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More accurate might be "American companies are inefficient in the production of cars for the American market."

This is exactly correct… for those of you that know about cars… you’ll know Ford can make great cars.. Modeo, Focus line and Fiesta and their diesel counterparts are great, fuel efficient cars that are huge sellers overseas… it’s just that in the US the unions kill the model… and nearly all of that effect is from healthcare costs… this is why we need a national healthcare system… otherwise we can’t compete with Japan, Europe or Taiwan… all of which have superior healhcare costs than we do.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 12:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woah there steed…

National healthcare? Really?

Sure it keeps companies’ costs down, but what of the taxes they pay? Not to mention the poorer quality of healthcare

I’m sure this will open up a can of ducks, but I’m not sure national healthcare is the answer.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 12:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not a huge proponent since I’ve never been without healthcare and I’m in somewhat of a high tax bracket to begin with. However, all the downsides that anyone can list no longer hold any weight relative to the business arguments.

Healthcare/pension costs already take up about 60cents of every dollar costs in every car made by the Big3. Healthcare costs rise 15% (at least) every year… by the time we reach 2020, 50% or more of the costs basis for every corporation (regardless of industry) will be healthcare costs.

In a free market that means almost nothing will be manufactured in the US… plus most of our service jobs will be overseas as well. Without reform, it will kill our economy.

I’m no expert on Healthcare, nor do I think about it much, but I do know none of the downsides compare to the business imperative for healthcare reform… and the best models we have so far are France, Germany, Japan and Taiwan… they have tons of problems true… but if I were a CEO, I’d take they’re system any day.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 12:56 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, there is no question that the healthcare system in America needs to be restructured. As you mentioned, the costs are rising tremendously and that needs to be fixed.

However, I’m not sure national healthcare, even ignoring the lack of quality and considering only the business perspective, what would the tax effect be? Healthcare doesn’t come for free regardless.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 1:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes but normalizing payment systems, insurance logistics overhead, pharmaceutical acquisition and bringing it all under a single administration immediately cuts costs and increases efficiency.

Having thousands of different insurance providers and standards and having the rules be different in every state creates inefficiency… plus each insurance provider and hospital buys meds differently, it increases pharma costs.

Like I said, Healthcare isnt’ something I really care about, but any simple businessman can see that standardizing the system across all the states and buying in bulk creates economies of scale.

The cost burden might be spread in an unfair manner, but nobody can deny that it would lower total costs. Plus if you take a look into Japan’s system… they regulate healthcare like a public utility… you would think quality becomes shit… but just the opposite has happened …. Japan has excellent doctors and preventative care has lowered costs and illness across the board.

Bottom line our system is shit… we need to try something different… what that new system looks like, I have no clue.

by danzig on Nov 18, 2008 1:18 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm, fair enough. I actually haven’t done a cost analysis on the business side for US healthcare vs government-subsidized healthcare.

Of course, the argument then gets into moral hazards and the quality issue, which is entirely separate.

I’ll get back to you on that – good perspective to know though

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 1:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And they do that

just to convince you that their not a “damn foreign car company”.
Not because we’re efficient.

Also, the inefficiencies are not because American Plant workers are inefficient- The inefficiencies start at the design and grand strategy phase.

“Der…Lets make gas guzzling vehicles our flagships, before, during, and after extremely predictable oil price shocks.”

by ohmangoAs on Nov 18, 2008 7:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One of the big problems with the Big3 is that they dumped a ton of money into creating large SUVs and trucks – because that was a major booming market. They arguably have the better heavy duty one-ton pickups, and family SUVs. To create a model, they need a factory dedicated to that model.

It wasn’t long ago that global climate change was a laughable to people, and gas averaged a few dimes over a dollar per gallon. The market demand was for a large, roomy, multi-utility vehicles. Internationally, they laughed at it because it was stereotypically the “American Way”.

The market has dramatically changed. A car that gets less than 20MPG isn’t practical. Larger vehicles aren’t being used for daily commuting (as much).

The investment into SUVs and Trucks was a poor one in hindsight, and has definitely played a role into their troubles.

Meanwhile, foreign auto companies like Honda, Hyundai and Toyota, have been much better off this year than domestic auto makers.

This isn’t to mean that the big3 have made bad vehicles, some are selling very well overseas, but they wasted a lot of money on their other investment. Plus some of their vehicle

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by JShufelt on Nov 18, 2008 12:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I just want to say good luck, we’re all counting on you.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RoFL!

What are we looking at and counting on!?

by CaliforniaCMB on Nov 18, 2008 5:35 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think that’s Jeff Tedford listening to his IPOD

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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2008 4:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more bad news

my undergraduate co-worker recently left for Penn St University to pursue a Ph.D. degree in chemistry.

when it became time to pick a lab, everyone was full.

Now they say he has to choose a different field after being there for a semester.

I think this is a direct result of tough funding and economic times. Every professor feels uncertain about future funding levels – even with Obama. We’re now wasting the lives of tomorrow. Penn St may not be Penn but it certainly isn’t Alcorn St.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 12:17 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know what to do here.

I make carp look like an idiot.

by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 2:38 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank goodness CGB isn't AN

more BS…I love the godfather blog…but there are too many bloggers and it’s turned into Fantasy GM-athon over there.

As soon as Blez left to make SBN what it is now…that blog’s gone downhill a bit.

I’m a bit nervous that we’ll have a whole bunch of out-of-the-woodwork posters show up if Cal loses this game.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:32 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

grover needs his morning coffee!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 11:22 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree....

Bring back the days of oaktoon!

On a more serious note, AN has been on a down hill slide of late. I’d have to agree.

by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 18, 2008 1:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that's why I've advocated (unsuccessfully) over there to have a freeze

on being able to put up fanposts until a requisite number of comments has been reached. I know both those guys have been around for a while, but there are an increasing number of one and done fan posters who have brought down the overall quality of AN.

by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 18, 2008 1:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was thinking the same thing (about oaktoon)!

AN – what happens when blogs get too big. I love the interviews and such, but that comes with a fair number of douchenozzles.

What is CGB going to do for our people in the event CGB starts to grow too large too fast?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1. Kick out Carp.
2. ????
3. Profit
So, thats the plan as of right now.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 1:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh

The Maharg AND TnH can make carp look like an idiot.

The Maharg makes me look like an idiot.

by carp on Nov 18, 2008 1:25 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, I finally have to ask… When have I made you look like an idiot? I try not to mock anyone too harshly, except Twist.

I make carp look like an idiot.

by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 2:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you don't mock too harshly

I think it’s more of a product of me actually setting myself up for your fair and rational comment that makes me go “sheeiiit.”

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What fair and rational comment?

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by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 2:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ummm, I dunno

I’m the idiot here, remember?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re making me look like an idiot.

I make carp look like an idiot.

by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 2:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's your job!

Is this reverse-the-roles day?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It depends, is Twist suggesting taglines?

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by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 3:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

with the passing of Newell...does anyone think we'll see a Cal national title (in hoops)

in our lifetime? Is Monty the man?

We’re about do for another Jason Kidd…

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 9:59 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Monty's a good coach, and if he were 10 years younger...

I think he’ll make Cal nationally relevant again, but if it happens, it’ll be the coach that takes what Monty builds and brings it to a whole ’nother level.

Another Jason Kidd would certainly help, though.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 10:16 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed.

monty was a step in the right direction. who they get to replace him is critical.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 10:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miller on Harbaugh
Jim Harbaugh said Monday he’s “100 percent committed to Stanford University.”

This is the entire quote:

“Let me be clear on this. I’m 100 percent committed to Stanford University. I love my job at Stanford. I have a great wife, a new baby, I love my job, I love the guys I coach for. I could not imagine coaching anywhere else.”

Hmm.

If you sense wiggle room, know that you are not alone.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 10:05 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope he leaves. Jerk.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 10:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I bet he goes to the Raiders

and then his career goes in the shitter.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 10:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, Raiders coaches can go on and obtain success elsewhere.

Hopefully, he doesn’t magically make the Raiders good. I bet in his first season, he’ll beat the Chargers, Colts, Patriots, and Steelers, while losing to the Chiefs, Dolphins, Bengals, Lions, and Rams.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 10:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, Rishi, you sound like you’d be a blast to hang out with.

On a serious note, here’s hoping you get laid sometime soon to help cheer yourself up. :)

by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 18, 2008 1:13 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is that seriously the best you could come up with?

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 1:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he canpick up a chick at one of those Cal rallies he’s attending this week!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doubtful

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 2:03 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s believe. Go Rishi go!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When did this become “pick on Rishi” day? :(

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 2:59 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It IS Tuesday, right?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 3:00 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, this is a weekly thing now? :(

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 3:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s not just weekly. We’re officially changing the name of Tuesday itself to Pick On Rishi Day.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 3:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought that was Wednesday through Monday?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 3:14 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, technically yes, if you use the lunar calendar. But that would make hannukah so late this year it isn’t even worth celebrating.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 3:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought it was reverse the roles day.

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by Maharg on Nov 18, 2008 3:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you have got to buck up man!

don’t drag this negative energy into the tournament.

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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2008 4:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who konws

maybe he’ll be the next Nick Saban…

by MCM711 on Nov 18, 2008 11:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nick Saban never made headlines calling out his Alma Mater and insulting the preseason #1.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:29 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you're right

he is worse than Saban! i hate stanfurd

by MCM711 on Nov 18, 2008 11:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Toby Gerhart is a nice guy:

Gerhart had been recruited assiduously by most of the Pac-10 schools, and he had already reduced his options to Stanford or UCLA, near his hometown of Norco (Riverside County) . But someone asked him about Cal on Monday, and, well, it was the truth. Either the Golden Bears didn’t see him as a tailback, or they didn’t see him as a tailback and corner outfielder, or they didn’t think they had much of a shot at him, or, sometimes recruiting just happens that way.

Gerhart isn’t bitter about it, either. If there is revenge in his heart, it is lodged so deep in his ventricles that he cannot channel it for the amusement of medioids trying to get their heads around one of the Biggest Games in years. He went where he was supposed to, he is getting what he wants out of it, and the next game will be as important as anything he has ever done with his football career.
And he takes care not to prop up Cal as a straw villain for not seeing the backfield/outfield potential right off. When offered the chance to say something mean about Jeff Tedford, he laughs the please-don’t-make-it-look-like-I’m-upset-about-it laugh of the seasoned campaigner.

He mostly wishes not to offend – except anyone obstructing his path Saturday. This is the biggest game of his life since June, and he intends to take it seriously.

Nuggets of information from the Chronicle:

Cal had won the Big Game five consecutive times, outscoring Stanford 152-49, before the Cardinal’s 20-13 win in 2007. Because the Bears’ players had never seen the axe leave its trophy case for more than a day, they had started to take it for granted.

Senior right guard Noris Malele said, “You never know how precious it is until you lose it. We’ve been living with that taste for a year now. We’re very anxious as a team to get back out there and compete for the axe again.”

Said senior inside linebacker Worrell Williams: “Losing the axe definitely gave the players some perspective as to how important this game is. If you have the axe and keep it, you start feeling like this is just another game, but now we realize that there is more to lose than just a game.”

Williams called the loss to Stanford the low point of his career. It was the Bears’ sixth loss in a seven-game span.

“To have the season we were having and to lose the axe on top of it, it was dramatic and detrimental to our morale,” Williams said. “We’ve got a chance to redeem ourselves this year.”
Not so special teams: Tedford said practices will include an added emphasis on special teams this week after the Bears allowed Oregon State to return a kick 86 yards and a punt 56 yards.

“Yeah, we have to get that straightened out,” Tedford said.

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by Berkelium97 on Nov 18, 2008 10:35 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can we also practise onside kicks? I have yet to see us kick a successful one.

Then, I saw Navy kick two successful onside kicks in a row.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes, but those were against Notre Dame.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 11:43 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I knew someone was going to say that.

Still, it takes a skilled special teams unit to execute two successful onside kicks consecutively.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 11:47 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Though the odds of getting two in a row are pretty low. I’d say there was both skill AND a fair amount of luck involved.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 11:49 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I saw the second one

it was really well executed, a perfect kick.

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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2008 12:20 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Nedney of the niners is good at sneaky onside kicks

it seems like the onside kick is the football equivalent to the stolen base in baseball…both are lost arts.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 12:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

interesting…and it’s especially tough to steal a base when everyone knows you’re going to try it.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 12:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hear Oregon’s kicker was really good at onside kicks, especially against Oklahoma.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 12:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what I loved about that game

is that nobody bitches that OU didn’t play any D after they lost the onside kick. All they bitched about was the call – even if they were right.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 1:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes and their kick to win got blocked.

At the end, though, they would have won the game had the call been made properly. Same with the 2003 NC game between Miami and OSU and the phantom PI call.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 1:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's his biggest game of his life since June

Ratto…sometimes he can be really funny…other times…he’s a jerk.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:50 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm, my wife was a gymnast in her past life, I’ll have her decode what all that recruiting info means. But basically, the Cal women aren’t very good, so any help is a positive. The Men’s team has been much better recently.

Tomasulu has been out on the Nationwide tour for awhile now, he keeps getting close so it’s good to see him step up from the AAA tour to the Big Leagues. Tiger’s still out while he rehabs his bionic knee, maybe he can manage to make a cut or two.

I’m glad this Big Game is at home. I’d be very worried if it was back at the soulless stadium on the Farm. Now I’m just slightly concerned.

by turkey on Nov 18, 2008 10:54 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Woodland's Dustin Pedroia is AL MVP

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/11/18/sports/s110017S85.DTL

This guy was a beast in high school and in American Legion ball. Still, he wasn’t future-AL-MVP good. In fact, I believe he wasn’t considered much of a prospect since he’s so tiny. Congratulations to him and his family.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 12:30 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is anyone attending the Cal-USF game tonight?

And will there be another post on it?

USF has an awesome PF who went to Berkeley High, then played at Texas Tech w/ Bob Knight

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 1:15 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've got no current plans to attend

But I’m now thinking about it. Basketball coverage around here will be spotty until my wallet gets fat enough to afford season tickets, I’m afraid.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 2:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Should have a nice Pete Newell ceremony given he coached both schools to NCAA championships.

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 2:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I'm sure

That’s part of what has me thinking more about it.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 3:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Random OT

I just had one of the best pizzas ever from North Beach Pizza on Stanyan St in SF (across the street from Kezar).

carp’s best pizza joints:

1) Pizzeria Uno’s in Chicago (not the airport version, I’m talking about the OG one off of Michigan Ave.)
2) Chicago Fire Pizza in Folsom (also in downtown Sac now; thin crust and deep dish versions are excellent)
3) North Beach Pizza (instantly jumped into top 3)
4) Pete’s Pizza (J St. in Sacramento)

I’m convinced the key to great pizza is really fresh ingredients. Not the 96 h old round table version where they put one slice of bell pepper per medium pizza. You’ve got to load up on the fresh goodies.

Yes, I’ve had Blondie’s. I think it’s perfect for it’s clientele but is a bit greasy and light on the good stuff. Haven’t had NY pizza so please feel free to chime in. I like Amichi’s pizza, but they’re not deserving of spot #5. Are there other delicious pizza joints I’ve missed?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I enjoy both Zachary’s in Berkeley and Old Chicago Pizza in Petaluma.

I also enjoy cheesy sticks from West Coast.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 2:12 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My friend took a limo to West Coast to pick up cheesy sticks after his wedding. That’s dedication.

by turkey on Nov 18, 2008 2:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is West Coast also in Berkeley?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:45 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you not go to Berkeley?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 18, 2008 3:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did a postdoc at Berkeley

but rarely left the lab. Gamedays were a rare (and needed) exception.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 3:08 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

West Coast Pizza is ONLY in Berkeley

but there is a North Beach Pizza. Confusingly, it’s also on University Ave.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Nov 19, 2008 2:30 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your friend….married…..a pizza??

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 2:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh god theres a Simpsons ref here from the Lisa Is A Vegtarian episode. But Im blanking. FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!

Smething like “Lisas gonna marry a carrot.”

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:53 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

speaking of Simpsons...

“meh” officially entered the English language yesterday. Saw it on Yahoo!

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lisa's gonna marry a carrot?!?! THAT'S BRILLIANT

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 2:55 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You need to take North beach off that list. It’s the most overrated pizza ever.

I would add Zachary’s of Berkeley, CA or Just Pizza of Buffalo, NY.

by BeastMode on Nov 18, 2008 2:27 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what are the odds I land a quiet table

at Zachary’s (assuming they have dine in) following the Big Game? I’ll have to try it (and the other CA pizza joints) sometime. I don’t think I’ll be headed to Buffalo anytime soon, but if I do go I’ll try and keep Just Pizza in mind.

I didn’t know North Beach pizza was rated to begin with given the whole-in-the-wall restaurant decor. I assumed a location on Stanyon St must mean the pizza was decent (since North Beach clearly isn’t the Inner Sunset).

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 2:39 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another spelling error

hole for whole

wow!

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 3:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1/100,000,000 of getting a quiet table and that’s only if they shut down the restaurant and you break in anyway.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 3:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Serious? North Beach Pizza is decent and I’ve been to the original before it became the massive chain it is today, but it’s not worthy of top five consideration. Here’s mine:

1) Gino’s East in Chicago – nothing like it. Not even Uno’s or Giaradino’s (sp?)
2) Uno’s in Chicago – as you said. The original.
3) That pizza I had in New York at some hole-in-the-wall shop when I was drunk.
4) Giaradino’s
5) Arinell’s in Berkeley – imo, hands-down best pizza joint in Berkeley
6) Amici’s, possibly.

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 3:02 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s the problem – you always have the best pizzas when you’re drunk.

Waitaminute…

by Rishi on Nov 18, 2008 3:05 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good call on Gino's East

I experienced Gino’s…but it was after I had pizza at Uno’s for like 3 days straight so I might have over done my taste buds.

Giaradino’s is also in Chicago?

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 3:06 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN is getting the BCS

College football is the only thing the Worldwide Leader does marginally right, so I’m cool with this.

The Bowl Championship Series is coming to ESPN starting in January 2011 (following the 2010 regular season).

ESPN and the BCS announced the deal on Tuesday. It includes exclusive television, radio, digital, international and marketing rights for the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar Bowls from 2011-2014 and the BCS title game from 2011 to 2013.

The Rose Bowl will continue to be televised on ABC through 2014 under a separate, previous contract. The Rose Bowl is also slated to host the 2014 title game.

ESPN is currently available in 98 million American homes. The current BCS deal with Fox Sports expires after the 2010 games.

This means the Fiesta, Orange and Sugar Bowls, plus the BCS Championship Game, will be televised in prime time each January. The schedule has not been released. There will also be a BCS show on ESPN every Sunday to unveil the current rankings.

The games will also be carried on ESPN Radio and ESPN Deportes Radio. Digital Media rights include operation of the official BCS Web site and the opportunity to simulcast the games online at ESPN360.com and on ESPN Mobile TV for mobile devices.

ESPN International will distribute and televise the BCS matchups around the world through networks and syndication, including on the re-branded ESPN America in Europe (known as NASN until Feb. 2009). In addition, ESPN has the right to televise BCS games on ESPN Deportes, the U.S. Spanish-language sports network.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 18, 2008 2:12 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting...I feel like they do college football all wrong

GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL TEXAS WOULDN’T TAKE CHASE DANIEL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL GRAHAM HARRELL MICHAEL CRABTREE MICHAEL CRABTREE MICHAEL CRABTREE

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 3:22 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t worry once OU beats them it will be back to TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 3:30 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I’m not saying Fox was any better… But certainly ESPN plays up the zomg Heisman/Nat’l Championship = all-that-matters card.

If I had my way the game would be shot from a helmet cam attached to the QB’s and called by Verne Lundquist, Groucho Marx, and Gob Bluth.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 3:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

asterisk attached to the QB’s helmet

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 3:40 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

is this correct regarding zomg

Likely an overzealous typo for omg, resulting from the proximity of z to the shift key. Also thought to be a purposeful synonym for omg due to banning of the word on a multitude of IRC channels, which later simply became an emphatic form, or as more commonly used, a sarcastic form. Occasionally, a 0 will be used instead of an O (z0mg) when the user is being explicitly sarcastic.

I got it from wiki.

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 3:42 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I only watch games on ESPN. I turned out the filler about six years ago. That includes College Gameday.

by BearsNecessity on Nov 18, 2008 3:47 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

COME ON!

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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2008 4:44 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone can make the goalposts

DISAPPEAR

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 5:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on that note

did you see how many times ABC showed the Song Girls? I think Cal’s cheerleaders were on once. Not that I blame them…

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by carp on Nov 18, 2008 3:41 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Two biggest crimes of Cal’s two rain games:

*Song Girls in ponchos
*Oregon cheerleaders in trenchcoats

by BearsNecessity on Nov 18, 2008 3:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They’ve gotten better looking this year… Not that that’s an accomplishment

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 3:48 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Betty Olds retiring

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/18/BAAL146C85.DTL

Also, Carolyn Jones still at it:

Berkeley’s City Council will lose its crankiest, wittiest and often most rational member tonight…
In 2007, she climbed into an oak tree next to Memorial Stadium to show support for the tree-sitters…
“Even in the darkest moments, when things were at their most hostile, she was polite and reasonable,” said Councilman Kriss Worthington, whom Olds once called a “little prince” at a council meeting.

Either way, let’s hope the replacement (her aide) is more reasonable and compromising on the university-related issues coming down the pipeline in the next few years. I hear there’s something going on with the stadium…

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JON-ESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

shakes fist

Shake harder, boy!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you’re confusing your references

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 18, 2008 2:51 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Confusing like a fox!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2008 2:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re the man now, Twist!

...nuh nuh nuh gone

by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2008 3:23 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the entire city council is a bunch of irrational idiots.

you can’t be rational and get elected in berkeley, it’s been that way for at least 40 years.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Nov 18, 2008 4:33 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Going to a Cal basketball game anytime soon? Bring a portable air conditioner. It’s been over 80° in Haas thanks to a thermostat malfunction.

Stanford’s best defensive player may miss the Big Game.

Stanford linebacker Pat Maynor, the team’s best defensive player, did not play Saturday against USC because of a knee contusion and could be at the end of his career if he is unable to suit up next week in the Big Game against Cal.

Maynor had started all 10 games for the Cardinal this season before he sustained the injury last week against Oregon. Maynor’s injury was not reported by Stanford during the week.

Maynor’s absence forced head coach Jim Harbaugh to juggle the linebacking group at the start of the game, starting Will Powers at the strong-side linebacker spot, Clinton Snyder at middle linebacker and Chike Amajoyi at the weak-side spot. It was the first start of the season for Powers, a San Mateo native.

Maynor, from Jupiter, Fla., leads Stanford with 64 tackles and eight tackles-for-loss this season and is second on the team in sacks with four. He has made 30 starts since the 2005 season.

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