Reveling in Victory
by CBKWit on Nov 1, 2008 6:48 PM PDT
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PrintOr, perhaps more appropriately, Shivering in Victory. The associated press calls this game "Berkeley's worst game-day rainstorm in a decade." I'm not sure if it was any worse than last year's USC game, which was definitely colder, but it was close. Regardless, I feel a lot better now than I did after USC last year, and I doubt any Cal fans are complaining about the win. And besides, RemorsefulBruinBabe reports that the ESPN crew gave a nice shout out to those of us who toughed it out in the rain: "If you are still in the stands right now [~45 seconds left in the game], you are a great fan."
There were 8 turnovers in the game, not including a snap out of the endzone for our long coveted safety (finally! it seemed impossible that the refs could call anything else, but I was holding my breath and looking for a flag). It was a pretty volatile game with a number of rapid, intense swings, especially in the second quarter as the teams tried to out-turnover each other. Yet the biggest play of the game wasn't one of our four (!) lost fumbles, or even Worrell's huge interception at the end of the second half. In a game full of huge plays, the biggest was a 5 yard false start.
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He's no Ed Hochuli
Oregon had cut the deficit to 3 on an embarrassingly easy touchdown drive (3 plays, all of them runs of more than 15 yards) in the third quarter. After a Cal 3 & out, Oregon marched right down the field and was poised to take their first lead since the opening touchdown. But on 3rd and 1 from the Cal 10, an Oregon player jumped early, one of only four duck penalties for 36 yards on the day. The 5 yard penalty made it 3rd and 6 instead of 3rd and 1, and their third down QB draw netted only 3 yards. On the next play, kicker Matt Eversen missed a 29 yard field goal.
Cal would manage only one first down on the next drive, but Oregon fumbled the punt return and resident Duck assassin Marcus Ezeff recovered at the Oregon 6.
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Sorry duck fans, he's only a junior.
Cal scored 2 plays later to make it 26-16. What looked like a duck touchdown drive and a 23-19 Oregon lead became a Cal touchdown less than five minutes later. The false start, and the fourteen point swing which ensued, determined the game.
Of course, recovering fumbles (and intercepting passes) is only part of the story. Teams need to be able to capitalize on opposing turnovers, and Cal, despite losing the turnover battle by two, was the victor in this area. Of the three Oregon turnovers, two (the Williams interception immediately before halftime and the Ezeff fumble recovery) led to quick Cal touchdowns. The Oregon very-long snapper gave Cal 2 more points on the long awaited safety. The only turnover that Cal did not convert into a score was a second quarter interception by Sean Cattouse deep in Cal territory, immediately following one of Jahvid Best's two fumbles. Oregon, on the other hand, capitalized on the early Riley INT for a touchdown, but failed to score after any of Cal's 4 (!) lost fumbles, including the aforementioned Best fumble at the Cal 17. That's a 16-6 Cal advantage (Oregon missed the extra point following their touchdown) and, not surprisingly, the Cal margin of victory.
This was a nice victory over a decent conference opponent, which puts Cal back into the conference race for exactly 1 week. Win at USC next Saturday and Cal is in great shape to win the Pac and go to the Rose Bowl. Do I expect this to happen? No, considering the injuries and ineffectiveness of our offense (when Best was on the bench, presumably due to his 2 fumbles, we were down 6 of our 11 offensive starters - Riley, Best, Calvin, Guarnero, Malele, & Tepper, and 7 if you count Teofilo instead of Schwartz) and our less than stellar road appearances. If we get some of our offensive players back (namely Riley and some modicum of depth on the o-line), we'll have a shot against a USC sqaud that has seemed vulnerable at times (not today, though: 49-0 USC after three. Then again, it is the Huskies).
Regardless of the outcome next week, there were plenty of encouraging signs today. Nasty Nate did not throw ANY interceptions (not even a back-breaking fourth quarter INT just for fun) and our receivers did a much better job of catching the ball, all the more surprising since they were playing in a bit of a rainstorm. Our defense continues to look very, very strong (at home), creating turnovers and for the most part (excepting two drives in the 3rd quarter) making life tough for the duck running game. Our three senior linebackers all made huge plays (as they do pretty much every week) and Syd was generally Syd. Perhaps most encouraging to me, defensively, is the continued strong play from Cameron Jordan and Darian Hagan. Jordan has looked good for a while, but he's been great since taking over for Rulon Davis. I think we're getting more production from his defensive end position than we did before Rulon's injury. At cornerback, Hagan keeps breaking up passes and making strong tackles in run support. Both of these guys are rock solid right now and look like potential stars: Hagan looks better than Syd did at the beginning of last year (GULP I STILL LOVE YOU SYD) and Jordan is our most explosive defensive end since Ryan Riddle in 2004. And they're both sophomores.
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That said, the biggest surprise to me was our offensive line. I was not confident in our chances today, and much of that hinged on our banged up o-line: we were missing our 1st, 3rd, and 4th offensive tackles and our top 2 guards, which would be damaging in any game but especially so against the top pass rush in the conference. Aside from one play when all-conference DE Nick Reed destroyed LT Mitchell Schwartz and blind-sided Nasty Nate, the offensive line gave our QBs enough time to throw and opened up some holes for our running backs. Our O line hasn't been consistently great this year, but they stepped up to the challenge and then some today.
GO BEARS! All aboard the Pain Train!
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TOOT TOOT! ALL ABOARD THE PAIN TRAIN!
When our team had some problem with executing tackles, Pain Train was there to solve that!
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We would yell “ALL ABOARD!” or “TOOT TOOT!” and wave our arms like we were pullinga steam whistle.
Also, I think it was the last Cal TD when we were at like the 2 yard line. Or it might have been the Cal TD when we got the interception returnt o the 1 yard line at the end of the halftime. But on like 2nd and Goal, Follett ran out and started yelling something to the offense. I was hoping theyd put him in as a fullback and knock it in William Perry style.
They didnt, but he was PUMPING them up! Follett is the best!
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my friend and I got a small Pain-Train-Whoo-Whoo-Pain-Train-Whoo-Whoo chant going in the student section.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Riley is ok and I hope that he starts against U$C. But Longshore played well. He held it together and didn’t melt down.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Someone needs to teach him to slide!
He looked fine on TV in the second half, but he was definitely woozy upon first examination.
I bet his status right now is up in the air.
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Two perspectives
(1) in person at the game I saw him try to get up and was stumbling around like he was on his eigth beer bong;
(2) a friend who watched it on TV said that the announcers claimed he didn’t know where he was (not sure how the announcers got that information, but I wouldn’t be surprised)
Someone needs to teach him to slide!
Especially after you’ve already made the first down and there are more of them than there are of you.
BTW, I completely agree that the O-line rose to the Occasion. Good protection and in the one case where Longshore got sacked from behind, he held onto the ball.
It was a very good win and I’m very happy with how the team played. Props to the Ducks; they’re tough.
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Riley's status
I don’t have any info, but I would say Riley would be thoroughly questionable for USC if he sustained a concussion – as since more and more medical research shows concussions take longer than one week to heal.
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Mad respeck for Nate. God knows I have laid into him big-time these last twelve months, but he came on in a bad spot today and held it together nicely. I hope he can keep it up, as I am not sanguine about Riley – concussions are no joke.
That said, I’m still glad I sold my tickets, because if I’d been there in person and seen those uniforms, I would have died of shame. I turned the game on in the second quarter and MY EYES MY EYES THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!!!
Ironically enough, many of us who attended today’s game DID wear goggles!
And it helped protect our eyes from the Banana Suit!
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this post frightens me. are we nearing the apocalypse?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, ESPN sucks
ezeff didn’t recover that fumble on the punt. I’m pretty sure.
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ok, maybe it was Ezeff
Cal linebacker Matt Russi fell on the ball, but Ezeff came out of the pile with his latest game-changing play in this rivalry. Ezeff also forced Oregon receiver Cameron Colvin’s last-second fumble through the end zone in the Bears’ win at Eugene last year.
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It was Russi. Ezeff fell on the ball first but it squirted out… then Russi fell on it and secured it.
Lonshore still doesn't look past his first read.....
did it 1x today, I applaud him for that! Bring on $C.
by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 1, 2008 7:35 PM PDT reply actions
Swish
I don’t know where your seats are so perhaps you don’t have the greatest view of Longshore, but today I clearly saw him going through his progressions on many many separate plays.
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Joking......
sarcasm doesnt come out so well over the internets…………
by 33SwisherSweet on Nov 2, 2008 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
today was the rare (and quite possibly the only) time that oregon’s unis were NOT the ugliest ones on the field.
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
Dude I loved the yellow on yellow. MUSTARD POWER!
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Dude, the yellow jerseys and the yellow pants so didn’t match! It was such a fashion faux pas.
What was Tedford thinking?
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It looks good on the Cal basketball team. Not sure what the difference is.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping we’d go with an alternative yellow helmet. Then, it’d be BANANA SUIT ATTACK!!!!!!
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I’m somebody. And I’m bitter!
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I just wonder…we busted out the gold jerseys last time vs. Oregon, this time it was gold pants/jerseys. What could possibly be next? Gold jerseys/pants/helmet/shoes/socks/jockstrap?
sweet!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a TEAM GOLD OUT!
I liked it. The GOLD STREAK is still alive. Oregon has now felt the golden love 2x!!
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“Now that’s a real football game,” said Cal defensive lineman Cameron Jordan, who had 10 tackles and a sack. “If you don’t love being on a field like that, you don’t love football. Everything about the rain and the weather fired us up.”
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Some thoughts:
1. The North Endzone and surrounding area was WILDLY more watery than the Southern section. Now, Oregon was driving in the end of the 3rd quarter. They were driving towards the Southern section. So, then the quarter ends. They are now going into the Crocodile Mile at the North endzone (I’m totes doing a post involving Crocodile Mile on this game, SO DONT STEAL MY IDEA BITCHES!). That, I believe, was when they started to slow down a bit and we got that key false start.
I think that them switching over to the North endzone section was key for our D stopping them. It was a lot tougher to move the ball towards the endzone. Luckily, we had the drier one to ourselves in the 4th quarter (Southern).
2. They rushed for over 200 yards. Blount had like 4 yards according to the box score, which doesnt seem right to me. So, I dunno. But if the box score is to be believed Masoli and Johnson each had a little over 100 yards rushing. But they had 85 yards passing. A chunk of that is Roper, who only played in like the last 2 minutes. Masoli had 44 passing yards! 44. That’s not enough to make the defense play honest.
So, yes, they had 200 rushing yards and averaged 4.1 yards a rush. But, still, I think that the Cal DBs were able to hold their offense in check. I thinkt that they were only able to move the ball well on a few key drives (the first one off the interception and a few in the 3rd/4th quarters). All praise be to our D on this one.
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When I say “I think the Cal DBs were able to hold the Oregon offense in check” I have no idea what exactly i was saying. I think something about Cal LBs holding the Oregon RBs or just Cal D holding Oregon O. I’m stupid after standing out in the rain for 8 hours today!
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I heart you, Olsonist!
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Props to the Oregon o-line for all the pancake blocks they had. I begrudgingly admit that I was in awe of how often the ball would be snapped and then all the linemen would end up flat on the ground, so that Masoli could look downfield for as long as he wanted. Luckily, their run blocking wasn’t as effective against our 3-4.
Anyway, awesome game. MVP goes to the entire defense, from the D-Line to the safeties. Anytime you give up as many turnovers as we did and still win, you gotta credit the D.
You sure you were seeing pancakes or cut blocks? Today, Oregon used lots of quick cut blocks to chop down our OL which gave their QBs some time to throw.
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Huh. Maybe it was cut blocks then, most of the time I saw them it was from section Q on the other side of the field. I called it pancake b/c I could never see the D-linemen, and I assumed they were under the O-linemen. Damn you Parallax!!! Either way, it looked really effective to me.
Yeah, when they cut block our DL on pass plays it worked pretty well and gave their QBs plenty of time to throw.
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Oregon is a chop blocking team...
…worse than the denver broncos.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
I'm a bit confused
You’re talking about chop blocking? We’re talking about cut blocking. Are you confusing the two? Or are you moving the subject to chop blocking?
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They do both
Cut blocking is their primary pass blocking strategy; this leads to a team-wide block below the waist mentality.
bada bing.
How is it spelled?
It's spelled S-h-u-V-3-0-0-0.
Major props to the WRs for solving many of their dropsies problems, ESPECIALLY in the rain. There were some drops, but given the rain no more than anybody would expect. They caught two TD passes and did EPICALLY better than Oregon’s passing attack.
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Longshore’s 17 yard (?) 4th down completion…or maybe it was 3rd down … ? And I don’t even remember who it was to …
ANYWAY the guy made a diving catch, and it was exactly the same type of catch that was a drop last week.
I agree. Those look like our guys at this point. Cunningham made some plays earlier in the year, but he had a horrible TD drop today and hasn’t made many plays lately. Tucker seems to have the best technique, Boateng and Ross both very athletic.
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I wonder if Tedford will put Jahvid back on kickoffs
I think the kicker for USC kicks it out of the endzone anyway
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What a catch
Dear god. Michael Crabtree is a man among boys.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow.
Great catch.
Officials need to watch push-offs more though. I’ve seen over 9000 of them this game.
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There has been some sketchy officiating on those catches. At first I thought they wanted Texas to win, but now I think they’re just all poor in vision.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
lolz, texas tech students = hella dumb
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
lol seriously. not once do they run on the field in error, but twice
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HAHA FUCK MACK BROWN!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
ABC News keeps saying Longshore turned the ball over once. i cant remember this. When was it?
Also, they showed the game of WSU against Stanford. NOBODY was there. NOBODY.
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I think they’re talking about the fumbled snap on the Tavecchio field goal. The picture of that lone Stanford fan inspired me to look up the attendance: a whopping 26,662
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yeah, stanfurd sucks
the views of the empty stadium was pretty sweet. now, how in the heck is Stanfurd only 1 win away from being bowl eligible??
I dunno I find it kind of (really) sad.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
They still have to play Oregon, Cal, $c
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I mean the empty stadium.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
(very wet) Gameday observations
-Good Cal fans and bad Cal fans. The bad was all of the people who bailed on the game because of the rain, including my parents and apparently 33-50% of the students. It was sad to see the lowest number of students since around or near the Holmoecaust for a game against ranked Oregon. The good: The fans who did come generally stayed for the whole game and were in excellent voice. Everybody in the endzone was making noise, which doesn’t usually happen. Probably because all the weiners who don’t like standing up and yelling never came because of the rain.
-We were a section or two away from the Masoli clan, who were very loud for the first quarter and non-existent after that. I actually felt bad for them by the end after Masoli got pulled. Rough homecoming experience.
-How many big 3rd down conversions did Cal’s offense get, especially when we were deep in our own territory and needed space for field-position and punting safety. Special teams scared the crap out of me every time they went on the field
-The line backers are so critical against Oregon, and our veteran crew gave us bar-none their best performance of the year. The unit collectively gets my gameball.
I blame a lot of the student no shows on halloween. damn drunks
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
There were a lot of missed tackles, Oregon’s runners are very good, plus the rain. But fortunately we had a lot of guys swarming the ball to limit the damage.
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The times when Oregon moved the ball, our D looked like the Arizona game out there. We could get to the point of the tackle, but couldnt execute. Generally, we were executing pretty well (except some times we nearly sacked Masoli and he squeezed free, includng one time where Worrell nearly bodyslammed him but Masolis omehow got out!), but when we failed to execute, Oregon moved the ball.
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True
In their two TD drives, and the FG/missed FG drives they looked unstoppable – lots of 5-10 yard runs, few if any 3rd down attempts. But in all of the other drives their were many tackles for losses and lots of 3 and outs.
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Good game Nate!
I think some congratulations are in order for Nate! I was very pleased to see Nate play mostly mistake free football. Granted the offense really sputtered out there at the end, he avoided any game ending mistakes. Riley had a beautiful TD pass before he was knocked out of the game. Silly guy really needs to learn to slide. I am not sure what he was thinking…
Will be very interesting to see who starts against USC…
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by CaliSeth on Nov 1, 2008 9:17 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
CaliSeth and Olsonist
closet Longshorites? =D
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 9:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No no. I still think we should go with Riley. However, something tells me his concussion is pretty serious. He looked really, really out of it from what I could tell. Poor guy…
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
No one have ever said that it was a bad thing that if had a decent backup quarterback should our starter get hurt.
If Riley can’t play against ’SC, everyone obviously will be huge Longshore fans.
If Riley has a concussion and if he needs to heal, then he should sit. No questions asked. At all. Period. Frankly, until someone says that he’s 100% I don’t even want to entertain the notion of him playing.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Agreed 100%.
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
The fact that we ar all together on the Riley/Longshore situation now brings a tear to my eye!
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I demand Mansion gets the ball now. Let the age of Mansion/Longshore debate begin!!!
It’s times like this I wish they’d never discovered CougCenterium.
I'm not sure what to think
Oregon State winning tonight would mean OSU still is in the driver seat. Oregon losing puts USC back in front of the Pac-10 pack.
Either way, we control our own destiny and we probably have to beat both anyway. But do I want to see the Beavers in the Rose Bowl if we lose or the Trojans?
If not us, I would like any team but USC at the Rose Bowl. Then again, it seems likely that if USC doesn’t go tot he Rose Bowl (and the NC game) then theyd at worst go to HOliday bowl. So, that hurts our chance of getting there.
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I'm just scared the Pac-10 will get an even worse rap if
a non-USC team gets clobbered by Penn State or fill-in SEC/Big12 team…
This could cause big name west coast recruits to leave the conference because of constant media hounding.
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Yeah, I’m seriously afraid of who we’ll face if we make it to the Holiday Bowl or (incredibly) the Rose Bowl. It would be a huge upset if we won, though.
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I believe in our seniors on defense against any offense. For once, we have a deep team on that side of the ball. I know we can lay eggs (AZ), but I really think this is the best unit we’ve had.
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I really don’t think the media impacts recruiting as much as we think.
Just the psyche of fragile fanbases like ours.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I want OSU to lose
because in the unlikely scenario that we beat the Trojans and lose to the Beavs, we will have a much better shot ar the Rose Bowl, given the Civil War game and OSU’s travel to Arizona
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Anyone watching ASU v OSU?
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Channel?
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This game is surprisingly close thus far…
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This is pretty much ASU’s season. It’s going to be very difficult for them to win out, even with the Washington schools on deck.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone else just hate Rudy Carpenter? For some reason I really hate that guy. I know it’s bad to hate someone, but I hate him.
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He lacks the passion of one Brett Favre. Is that why you hate him? Not enough Favre-like qualities?
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate the guy. I didn’t think it was possible to like Pain Train more than I already did, but after he flattened Carpenter I fell in love. I wonder if we will ever find out what sweet nothings he whispered into Rudy’s ear as he lay motionless on the turf.
P.S. Was anyone else just amazed with Folletts play today? I mean there was one stretch there where I think he made four tackles in a row. He was out there knocking down passes, getting in the way, flying to the ball. I think we are looking at someone who will be playing on Sunday’s for quite some time into the future. Guy is just a freaking monster!
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I have loved that guy since he had the zebra hair against Tennessee, I knew he was going to be an animal this year. He is an unquestioned leader. He encouraged Kevin after his big hit and I was jumping up and down and screaming like a little girl when he ran over to the offense and told them to get their shit together and get the god damned ball in the end zone. What a bad ass.
It’s ok Seth. I am in on you on this one. Fuck Carpenter. Tough guy, but maybe if he weren’t such a jackass, he wouldn’t need to be so tough.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 1, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s going to give us all sorts of trouble in two weeks.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
two weeks
and then three more years…
visions of a keola antolin/yvenson bernard hybrid mosterback are giving me a tick
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This fool is just sick really
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Will someone banter about upcoming '$C game with me?
Longshore and Ezeff are total duck assassins. Longshore is now 3-0 against the Ducks, and those were some of Cal’s biggest wins in the past 3 years. Longshore really deserves a tremendous amount of cred for this year and last.
I expect Cal to lose next Saturday, but the Bears definitely have a shot. The Trojenz and Cal are so similar this year — very stout defenses, and very sluggish offenses. $C is soooo beatable this year. I really think the game is gonna’ come down to 1) Riley remembering to slide, 2) the Italian Stallion (Giorgio Tevecchio), and 3) Mark Sanchez’s tackling ability (after the 3-4 INT’s he is going to throw to the Cal D).
You guys are killing me tonight! Even if you think Cal is going to lose against USC, you don’t say it! And what the hell kind of fans do we have voting in the poll tonight? How do you think that makes the team feel? To know that their own fans voted that they would lose! Look guys a little advice, even if you think Cal is going to lose, you don’t SAY IT! Gosh darn you guys!
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you know who else did?
HydroTech. On the morning of the game, everyone (myself included) was saying that we had no chance, but HydroTech kept saying “I have a good feeling, I think we have a shot” or something like that.
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That morning my then-gf asked me if I needed anything. I responded “a Cal win and a cupcake.” Only instead of “cupcake” I actually said something much more crude. I was really shocked to see which of the two I ended up with (and not exactly disappointed, under the circumstances).
Your memory serves you well.
I did have a very good feeling about Cal’s chances against USC in 2003.
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Agreed!
If you didn’t vote blowout $c on a stupid blog poll, you’re on my list!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Realistically, if Cal can split these next 2 road games and hold court at home, they will have exceeded expectations for the year. Remember we were generally picked 4th. If our D can play well on the road and we get our offense healthy, we’ve got a good chance.
I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.
Imagine a crazy scenario...
Cal pulls off the huge upset…OSU holds on to beat ASU and beats UCLA next week…
All of a sudden, Cal @ OSU in a pseudo Pac-10 title game.
Likely? No. Fun to imagine? Very
What the hell just happened in Corvallis?
Rodgers brothers looking out for each other.
Dennis Erickson looks like he wants to go to bed.
Seth, Seth, Seth
Dude! I say that because it’s classic Cal football psychology. If I say “Cal is going to b*@t $C”, then it pretty much guarantees a Cal loss. I have found that the only way Cal can win in really big games is for me to predict a loss. So, basically, I’m trying to get the team’s back. The reality is that this may be Cal’s best shot at the Roses for a really long time.
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec'ed
It’s like a bunch of you don’t understand the rules. I voted “USC forfeits” – I"m not going to predict Cal loses, but you don’t go out and just PREDICT a win. Damn. It doesn’t work like that.
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by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I respecfully disagree
A lot of Old Blues, so stung by years of false hopes and shattered dreams, have become overly pessimistic, and we clothe our lack of faith in a naive gesture to some sort of sporting karma. I know this is hard to believe, but our predictions—and even our pre-game woofing (or anti-woofing)—have absolutely nothing to do with the outcome.
I’ve boldly predicted (“guaranteed”, even) huge Cal victories before, and things have played out in just that manner: 1991 Citrus Bowl, freshman Jason Kidd beating Duke in the NCAA tourney, 2006 Holiday Bowl, 2007 wins over Tennessee and Oregon, and the big 2008 victory over Dumpster Muffin. But I’ve also gotten a lot of games wrong, with the Bears winning a few when I thought they had no chance (e.g., 2003 vs. USC), and losing more than a few when I was certain they would win (2006 vs. USC). Believe me, there is no correlation between my predictions and the games’ actual outcomes. It there was, I’d quit my day job, head to Vegas, and retire early.
We all claim we want the Bears to advance to the “next level”, that of a true championship-caliber program. And what do all those teams have in common? Obnoxious fan bases who always “know” their team will win. Sure, this season is far from over, and the Bears still might find themselves headed to El Paso or Las Vegas for their bowl game. But why not dream of Pasadena—not just as some unspoken guilty pleasure, but out there exposed, for all the world to see? The last three seasons have been ones of too-lofty expectations, and the reality has been hard for all of us to stomach. I’m beginning to think that 2008 might be just the opposite: a excessively pessimistic fan base that (almost) misses the bandwagon as it makes an historic trip to Pasadena, precisely 50 years after the last journey. How bad would it suck if Cal actually DID win the Pac-10 this year, but we were so busy complaining about the ineffectiveness of the QB, the OC, or whomever, to enjoy the ride? Hop on board, because the Pain Train is heading to Pasadena, with stops at Los Angeles and Corvallis along the way!
You Gotta Believe! Keep Hope Alive!! Sí se puede!!! Beat L.A.!!!! Being an irrationally exuberant zealot is what being a fan is all about.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I..I..I..want to believe...
But, in the immortal words of Captain Kirk, “I NEED my pain!.”
I see where you’re coming from, and look, I have a Ph.D. in astrophysics, I’m not REALLY superstitious, but it’s just so painful to say out loud my highest expectations when they aren’t reached (especially when they’re missed by a mile). That doesn’t mean I don’t go out EVERY home game and cheer my throat out (my family always gives me a hard time for croaking through Sunday…) and BELIEVE we can do it every kickoff.
But there’s also something about claiming it in that obnoxious U$C kind of way I don’t ever want to be a part of. I want to be the National Championship team fanbase who was modest, but devoted, believed in their team when others said we sucked, stuck by them every game, and were rewarded through our team’s efforts on the field (not by a Coach’s poll vote or something).
And I do I dream of Roses in Pasadena falling on Blue & Gold Cal uniforms, every year, no matter what.
I guess it doesn’t make that all much sense: I BELIEVE, but I NEVER hope.
So there’s no way it would suck if Cal DID win the Pac-10, while I was complaining a few times about some things along the way. It would ROCK, and I’ll see you in Pasadena, happier than I’ve ever been.
P.S. In case you weren’t sure, ‘Pessimistic Old Blues’ like me (I’m not that old yet…am I?), still watch intently when down 2 scores with 2 minutes left because we’ve seen miracle comebacks and we believe Cal can do it, and deserves it no matter what. There are some lamer Cal fans out there, who just complain a lot and don’t have any positivity – but that’s not me. I do complain sometimes, but from a rock-solid base of belief that our team is always the best in the nation every year.
You’ll never get me to turn off a Cal game before the clock hits zero.
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by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Fair enough, JW. I still argue that hope is a good thing, but on this we agree: Cal in the Rose Bowl is a non-sucking scenario no matter how you look at it.
(And, no. I don’t really want us to become obnoxious loudmouths either. We just don’t have to always expect the worst.)
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 3, 2008 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
I feel the love...
I think we can both keep doing our thing.
So do you anything really crazy like bet real money on Cal winning?
And do you strange things like pick Cal to lose but cover – what kind of hope would that mean?
Under my tortured philosophy, I have 2 options: A) bet Cal to win no matter what, but without ‘claiming’ we’ll win, just saying “I support my team”, or B) don’t bet at all.
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 3, 2008 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
It’s option B for me. There is absolutely no way I’d resist betting from my heart, not my head, and that’s no way to make money. If I was wealthy and had cash to burn, then I’d be all-in for option A. But I’m not, and I don’t.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 3, 2008 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
I threw up in my mouth after that last one...
We need to put in 5’7" LBs to tackle him
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
What a genius idea. Jerome Randle for linebacker!
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
and Nican Robinson at NT
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
and Max Zhang as the goalposts
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Why are Pac 10 refs pretty much consistently bad? I never see as much problems in the other conferences.
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
The Texas-Texas Tech game had about a hundred pushoffs.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Over 9000 was my count
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Good queston
They need to go to summer bridge
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I was talking with a friend about this during today's game
I am always so uncomfortable during plays being reviewed because the refs are so bad that they can usually go either way, despite the existence of clear, unobstructed evidence.
ಠ_ಠ
it's because they hate america and they hate freedom
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
well played royb, well played...
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
And what was up with them missing like 3 horse collar calls in the game today? Did they not see that page in the rule book?
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
OH MY GOD! I HAVE A HARD ON!
Because the wretched 49ers have a bye week, we all get to see the Packers v Titans tomorrow on Fox! I think I could cry! GO PACKERS! YEAH!
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
Bills-Jets on CBS
So you get to see Marshawn wreck Favre too.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Have I died and gone to heaven? God, thank you so much! I hope Favre get’s his head smashed in! YEAH!
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
head smashed in??
that’s a little extreme
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Quarterback manlove is always extreme. Especially for Aaron Rodgers.
Clap clap clap clap clap.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I’m going to name my second born son Quarterback Manlove.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
My sister almost named her son Giganthony
as in “Gigantic Anthony”
True story.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Whats it like to be Italian? I’ve always wondered myself. Do you keep many spicy meatballs around the house?
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I know, it is extreme, but Favre is a real jerk. It has always been all about Favre. Can’t stand the guy. I know I come off as being a miserable person quite a bit, but I swear I’m not. I just can’t stand Favre!
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
If you watch the highlights
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=283060025
Announcer pronounces Cattouse as Cat-House. Yes, Sean Brothel intercepted a Masoli pass at the goalline.
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I love it when they call him Cat-house
The WSU game was the best for hearing announcers butcher our players’ names.
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Pretty much every local newscaster thinks Nyan is misspelled on the teleprompter and self-correct it to Ryan or Nylan.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
You can look on the Bears site for pronunciations on all player names. Maybe that is how it is pronounced? Who knows….
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Thanks to the pronunciation guide
I can properly pronounce Brock Mansion’s name.
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by Berkelium97 on Nov 1, 2008 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“Gor-jus Man-can-dy”
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
How is Bryan Anger pronounced???
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“SMASH”
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
It looks French to me
So, my guess would be ahn-ZHAY. And taking my cues from the “Colbert Report”, whenever opposing teams retreat to field a Cal punt, they have entered the zone of ahn-ZHAY dahn-ZHAY (Anger Danger). Or something like that.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Going further into the romance languages
My spanish step-mom refers to Cal as the ‘Osos Peligrosos’ – the dangerous bears. Has a great ring to it.
I loved the bit where they had the “spore repore” (sports report).
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 2, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
hm…maybe he just said the name real fast? Nyan…Nyn…Nine? At least it wasn’t Brian or Ryan or … Rudy.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I was so psyched when he came here
because he’s on Sebastien Telfair’s team in that documentary
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LMAO, I saw that earlier on ESPNEWS. There was another time during the season when an announcer pronounced it that way, then corrected himself. I was trying to think how I would pronounce it if I didn’t already know. Hmm…
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
How great would "Cat-house" be as a nickname, though?
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
well considering it means whorehouse…pretty awful, I would think. maybe that’s just me though.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn’t SF legalizing prostitution on Tuesday?
Perhaps there is cultural relevance to this nickname.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
Maybe Sean Cattouse is secretly an advocate for Bay Area sex worker rights.
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Next thing you know we’re going to recruit a kicker named Todd Syphilis.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh the irony.....
Good job, syphillis, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap
by RickySanchez on Nov 1, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
paper headline:
Voters Itching to Award Heisman to Syphilis
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can Syphilis get make a rosy comeback? It’s been 50 years since it was this hot.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh oh. The best day of football last year was USC losing to the ’Furd
We know what happened next week.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Dennis Erickson always has that “I can’t believe how much you guys all suck” look on his face. I never get tired of it.
ಠ_ಠ
now that we are bowl eligible...
here’s a look at the Pac-10 bowl games this year:
- - Rose in Pasadena on Jan. 1
- - Holiday in San Diego on Dec. 30
- - Sun in El Paso, TX on Dec. 31
- / #5 – Las Vegas on Dec. 20
- / #5 – Emerald in San Francisco on Dec. 27
- - Hawaii in Honolulu on Dec. 24
- - Poinsettia in San Diego on Dec. 23
I’m not sure the story with the #4 / #5, but I believe they alternate every year who gets to pick first. I think Emerald got to pick first last year… I remember because they wanted Cal if we were eligible, which we weren’t.
Sigh. If last year was this year, we would have been in Hawaii instead of Fort Worth… boo…
by OskiWeeWee on Nov 1, 2008 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
dang, this year…either we get wasted by a B12 team in the Holiday bowl or we have to go to El Paso Gaso.
This would have been a great year to finish 5th or 6th, in terms of bowl destinations.
Obviously #1 is my first choice…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t understand…
The non-conference match-ups were pretty weak for Mizzou, Texas Tech, OK State,
Those teams moved so high up when other teams were losing to BCS conference opponents. Right now, we’re just watching Big 12 teams play each other… not a real great basis for comparison.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Big 12 is legit. IMO.
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
It's definitely legit
but not BEST CONFERENCE EVAIR Herbstreit slurp levels good
We’’ll see what happens in bowl season
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that hte Big12 is legit. Texas, Oklahoma, TTU, those are all great teams. If we make it to the HOliday Bowl, we’ll prolly face one of those three. That would be great.
Who wants to face off against Air Force again? Or BYU? Well, BYU is good this year.
But the point is, lets try to face offa gainst hte best. Those who say “Lets go to the 5th place bowl so we have a great victory” that makes no sense to me. Id rather lose in the HOliday Bowl than win in the Hawaii Bowl.
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The Cal football fan in me would rather we lose in the Holiday Bowl.
The regular person in me wants to fucking go to Hawaii.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes they were. And they stomped them.
I know the Big 12 schedules cupcakes (Texas Tech most notoriously), but unless they struggle with them there’s no real basis to call them overrated. Exploitative is a better word.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
But why should I rate
Kansas, Mizzou, OK state so high then??
Based on Kansas’ scheduling last year and Mizzou’s wins in a bad Big 12 North?
I just think the polling system sucks. Voters should stick to their guns more. If the 20th rated team loses, they should really consider the loss, not just auto-drop them. You expect the 20th-ranked team to lose a few (8-4 or 9-3).
I don’t think you can get an accurate ranking unless you watch all the games closely around the nation, which is hard for anyone to do.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably why computers will be judging this solely in a decade, so everyone can still gripe about it.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Missouri and Kansas are massively overrated. Mac Brown is a shitty coach and Oklahoma pretty much always loses in bowl games. Texas Tech looks pretty good, but they almost lost to Nebraska earlier this year and had to win in OT. They’re a strong football conference but overrated.
I disagree. To be overrated you need a basis to compare them to. Is the SEC way ahead of them? The Big Ten? I hope you’re not suggesting the Pac-10 is a better conference this season than the Big 12.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
If you replaced the Big 12 teams you call ‘massively overrated’ with their equivalently positioned Pac 10 teams (ie 3rd place/3rd place), and switched rankings, do you think the Pac 10 teams would NOT be overrated??!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly
I’d love a game against Texas or Texas Tech….
Let’s see what Jahvid and our senior LBs can do..
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d take Texas over TTech…Tech’s offense fucking scares me.
Although on the flip side I’d get to be in the same stadium as the most incredible football coach that ever lived, Mike Leach.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
We might get to see him more. What if he takes the UW job and turns them into a powerhouse?
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
UW is a hard place to recruit since SC dominates the elite players on the west coast now, and the state of Texas has so many good players who don’t get offered UT scholarships. Washington doesn’t have that type of talent base. It would be interesting to see how he could get QB and WR talent from Cali and Texas
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure he'll manage...
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would we shy away form the best competition? If we want to be viewed as the best, we need to beat the best. Go Bears!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 1, 2008 10:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
plus playing in the holiday bowl against a big-12 opponent would be a win-win situation. nobody would expect us to win or perhaps even be competitive so if we lose, no biggie. if we win, big biggie.
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I don’t know, even if we’re expected to lose, I couldn’t really take many positives from a total ass kicking.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would we get our asses totally kicked… I really don’t see that happening.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Theres a difference between a dignified loss and a total ass kicking.
That said, a win trumps all. go me for figuring that out!
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this is true. However if we were to play Texas or TTech or Oklahoma, I would genuinely expect an ass kicking. They are just more talented teams than we are…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of people have negative feelings towards the H-Bowl (and in specific Tech) bc of 2004. But we were in a bad situation then. Injury depleted team going up against big underdog. Thats sort of lose-lose.
It would be different this year.
We are, of course, getting ahead of ourselves. We can as much make the Rose Bowl as the Hawaii Bowl at this point. Lets beat USC first!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 1, 2008 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for making a lot of sense! That makes 2.
Ok, who pirated Twist’s profile??
I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.
Im pretty sure its Mike Leach. He just LOVES pirates!
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Hmmm, random response, check….typos, check…you’re back!!
I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.
Firstly, Mike Leach actually does love pirates. And TTU has adopted the pirate as its unofficial mascot.
Secondly, I dont count apostrophe errors as a typo. i hate apostrophes. I never deal with apostrophe. All grammar should start at the BOTTOM of the line, not at the top. Its just weird. Its icky. And I dont think apostrophes should get married, either!
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Witty use of semantics. Untypical.
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Untypical? I think that’s a made up word.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 2, 2008 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Twist's comment is old thinking
If you want to be viewed as the best, put up WINS against anybody. This is how the SEC does it every year, and how the big 12 did it this year as has already been pointed out. The reason the pac-10 is “down” is because we schedule big.
CAL needs to schedule, UC Davis, San Jose State, and Sonoma State every year and we will be the new Kansas or (insert overrated SEC school here, see Auburn rated top 25 for weeks on nothing).
People look at win- loss records of conferences in the bowls. They don’t look at who they beat. JUST WIN. it doesn’t matter who
Its true that perception is reality. But, also, if I am paying for my season tickets, I would like as many big games as possible. Having a Tennessee or MSU as compared to Portland State or whomever is the way to go. It raises the profile by having a big game early. It puts butts in the seats, which helps the team overall in revenue etc.
I think that the positives of strong scheduling far outweigh the negatives.
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So are you Mike Leach or TwistNHook? I’m so confused!
I may not be a funny bastard, but at least I'm a bastard.
I have a new predictor for Cal wins
For the last two games, I forgot to set my TiVo, and we won. The Cal Football Gods are like, “Well, OK, we can let Cal have the win, because this guy will only get to watch in once – in person.”
Man, that was a serious storm today. Mad props to all the Cal fans who stayed to the end and made it (fairly) loud.
1) 3rd (and a 4th) down conversions – AWESOME. Makes it so hard on the defense. It almost felt like opposite day today with all those clutch conversions just when we needed them.
2) I gotta say, it was nice to have almost all devoted fans around me, even though my section (T) was half empty. No $(#*ing whiners telling me to sit down during the first 3 defensive series and almost fighting with me about it. You can’t have enough real fans.
3) Riey had a rough start, and was just getting into the solid swing of it and looking really dangerous when he got knocked out. Man, I want him back. And I’m very proud of Nate for not turning it over (I don’t count the snap thing), though he wasn’t exactly awe inspiring out there. I think most teams would rather face our offense than our PAIN TRAIN.
4) Pain train was so awesome when he went out to fire up the offense. I was so hoping he was going in. I started screaming “Touchdown Zach, Touchdown Zach!!!” but it was just a pep talk. And we scored a TD on the next play.
5) ABC/TV sucks. They complain CF games are too long so they change the clock rules so we get less plays per game, and then they just FILL it with endless commercial breaks. That really sucked when you were out there freezing your ass off with pouring rain and wind, and they’re taking like 4+ minute TV timeouts. At one point the ref said, “Timeout, and this wil be a media timeout” and the crowd started booing REALLY loud. You could see him laughing when he heard it.
Everyone who stayed to the end with me – you rock!
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 10:51 PM PDT reply actions
I think we just PWN teams on ABC
and next week’s on our favorite channel!!!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
BOOOOO. BOOOO I HATE MEDIA. BOOOOOOOOO
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I never thought about that, but it’s true…foul weather weeds out the shit whiner fans. Kinda makes me wish for rain all the time.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed on the TV Timeouts. THOSE ARE THE WORST EVAIR
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TV Timeouts are garbage for sure, but that is what makes televising the games possible…
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…..play soccer?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Televise sporting events with no commercials. That stand out example is soccer, but they also do it with Formula 1, cricket, etc.
they also pay huge government fees just for having a TV
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
and they put company names on the uniforms.
Go Cingular Bears Presented By Lenovo!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
The only sponsor I’d tolerate is Bank of the West.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You choose to do that…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
In Europe, you still have to pay for cable/satellite PLUS the government fees. In the US you pay the corporations who sponsor the events based on your liking.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure where we’re going with this. Are you saying that we could have no TV timeouts in all sporting events for a government fee? If so, then let’s talk numbers but I’ll err on the side of “where do I sign?”
No, I’m saying we could have no TV timeouts in all sporting events if we had massive corporate backing on every surface of Memorial (and every, for that matter) Stadium, our uniforms, and fat government fees. I like it the way it is…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I like TV timeouts if they give our D a chance to rest on long drives
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but let's be reasonable
You know how it is – you’re watching at home and they don’t even come back to the action in time and miss the snap…and some of them are literally over 3 minutes long. This is a live event, not a taped sitcom. And then they front load the game with too many commercials – it’s like "touchdown – timeout, kickoff – timeout – false start – timeout – the ball is in the air – timeout! (OK, maybe not quite while it’s in the air…)
But hen in the 4th quarter, there’s downtime, boring reviews, and they just stay on the empty field. I mean c’mon, they need people who understand the flow of the game to call the timeouts and the durations. It’s not that hard to find the deadtime and get plenty of commercias in. And they do have the 20 minutes and halftime…
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks Oski!
I had GoreTex boots with wool socks and a poncho…my biggest mistake was wearing blue jeans. Soaked from the mid-thigh down!
I sat right near the Ducks fans and we gave them a hard time.
“Thanks for coming” as they marched up the steps at halftime.
They would yell “Go” and we would yell “Home” or “Bears” as they were trying to yell “Ducks”
Is it possible to get the actual attendance, not the 61k paid attendance?
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
Were you wearing a Worrell Williams Jersey in the south end zone?
Because I remember a dude yelling ‘Thanks for coming’ like a row away from me, and then I talked to that dude about turnovers on the way out of the stadium. If you are in fact that dude, great job! and hello!
my cover's blown
nice to meet you too!
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
Speaking of foul weather....
I wonder If when they renovate the stadium they will fix the field to drain properly. That was really cool today, but a serious injury risk I bet.
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at times, it was raining so hard I doubt most fields would have drained properly.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I didnt see it, but apparently they had pitchforks at one point to work on the field. Did anybody see that? The highlight package showed it. Moreover, there isa drainage system, which was apparently overloaded due to the intense rain for like 6 straight hours.
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Yeah, I saw that. They were pretty much pitchforking the field in the deepest of the swampy areas in the hope that the extra perforations would help drainage.
It didn’t.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I was watching them while they were out there and wondering what they were doing.
It obviously was not helping. They would have been much better off getting a few rolls of Burly paper towels and tossing them on the field to suck up all the water.
ಠ_ಠ
or maybe some of those dehydrated camp dinners
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the best parts of the game..
was hearing Oregon fans bitching about the stadium. which was totally justified, but still funny. Welcome to Berkeley Ducks fans!
This should be their new banner
It’s sleeping, right?
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
aw that’s sad.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2008 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah man, that’s terrible! Where the heck did you find that?!? I love wildlife, I get so upset when I see people in Alaska hunting Bears. Plus Polar Bears are really having a rough time with the melting ice caps. Anyway, not sure where I am going with this….
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Sarah Palin sent it to me. Small-town values this photo espouses.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sarah is an enigma to me. I know she is a crazy conservative, but at times she seems hot. Damn weirdo likes to kill animals, though I think she may eat them. Yeah, can’t stand her! She tried to block the listing of Polar Bears on the federal endangered species list. Fluck that milf!
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CaliSeth...I think it's ok to want to bone Guv Palin
that doesn’t mean you have to agree with her politics.
Plus, she made CougCenter Week.
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
I love wildlife, too
But c’mon now. It’s a freakin’ Mallard. That’s just one small notch more “wild” than an urban tree squirrel or pigeon. In fact, I think my house cat might be less domesticated than that duck.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You killed that duck, didn’t you?
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Yes, I’m afraid to say. He forgot to “duck” out the way as I sped by. Poor little guy. The last thing I remember hearing was, “AFLAaaaaa…”.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
I strongly recommend showing some class in this.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Nov 1, 2008 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Witty class. We better call in Twist.
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by CaliSeth on Nov 1, 2008 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course, of course
We should just make fun of JShuFail
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
In this game Time of Posession >> Turnovers
I thought our ToP was a big factor today. We kept the defense off the field, and we ran so many plays that inevitaby we got some scores against a pretty fast duck defense.
And it outweighed our turnovers because more than one of our TO’s was not in a bad field position.
Best’s 60 yard run followed by fumble was basically a 60 yard punt…not exactly damaging.
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 11:29 PM PDT reply actions
Speaking of turnovers… I kept thinking about how JT says that turnovers are the biggest factors in games. Damn, the Ducks only scored 6 points off of our four turnovers. And due to the fact that I am drunk, I am not even sure they got those six as a result of a turnover. Good times….
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Damn - Stanfurd may have done better against Wazzu than we did...
The margin of victory was less, but they pitched the shutout.
I can’t believe how much of a threat I think Stanfurd is this year – how are they doing it? I thought the scouting report was – not good enough athletes to start with, then hurt by injuries…can the coach do THAT much?
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 11:32 PM PDT reply actions
To be fair to us,
Wazzu was 1000x more healthy against us than they were against Furd. We played Wazzu 1st-stringers. They’re now playing 4th-stringers
...nuh nuh nuh gone
by Thoroughbred on Nov 1, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
EVERYONE HERE: VOTE FOR ALEX MACK NOW
http://football.seniorclassaward.com/public/men/vote.aspx
...nuh nuh nuh gone
I voted.
Now who is ready to vote Tuesday?
Obama/Biden 2008!
“Yes we can.”
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You gotta get an absentee ballot form in the future. It’s the only way to go. Though I still recall fondly actually going to polling places way back when…
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I love going to vote in the morning on election day. Love it! But I’m off to FLA tomorrow night to campaign. And I worked at a polling location once. You have no idea what a thin thread your democracy hangs on.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Does anyone else here advocate doing away with the electoral college? Had it not been in place, Bush would never have been. I am torn on this issue, because I really respect our founding fathers, but I am getting kinda tired of it. Thoughts, anyone still awake?
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About to go to bed, but...
Oh, obviously the electoral college should be history. It’s just silly now. But you have to get rid of it all at once – not one state at a time (like Nebraska and Maine).
Now get back to football talk!
It’s raining like mad at my house now…
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 1, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Where the fuck do you find this shit, Avi! You really know how to press my buttons! Are you a Favre sycophant or what?
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I’m just warning you of the vague possibility Brett Favre might be our new President come Tuesday night. Beware the tardbillies.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 1, 2008 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I just can’t wait to pass out and wake up to GB v Titans. Man life is good. My Bears got a win, and now my Packers and Bill will get a win. Life is really, really good right now…
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Cal-USC will not be nationally televised
It’ll be regional and broken up with ABC’s other regional selection, Oklahoma State-Texas Tech. Since that’s a battle of top 15 teams and Cal-USC is merely sideshow to everyone not in California, we will probably only be a West Coast telecast, which makes it no different from the past two weeks.
next thing they’ll move the start to noon.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 2, 2008 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
omfg
I was looking forward to seeing that on national TV. Guess I’ll have to hit Pacific Standard Bar next week.
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
THAT WAS AN AWESOME GAME
And I was a true asshole in the stands.
I yelled randomly for no reason:
“HEY FOLLET CRUSH MASOLI”
“BRING THE PAIN TRAIN FOLLET”
“TD FOLLET”
“JOHNSON STOP MASOLI AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE HAM!”
“BREAK MASOLI’S LEGS!” (I feel guilty about this)
It was awesome
Also the chant “23 IS A BITCH” started next to me and it spread across the student section. I never understood why we did this but it worked!
In other words, Go Bears!
Hey Roy, how you doin buddy?
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I’ve missed you buddy. you only seem to show up on game days. why is that? school? work? none of my business?
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I was here most of summer
I’ve just been busy as hell the past few weeks. We all went to Cal. We know how it is here :(
In other words, Go Bears!
Longshore
I think he handles the game pressure well – but I don’t think we should fall all over ourselves just because he didn’t melt down. I mean, in any other profession you wouldn’t promote somebody just because they didn’t screw everything up while you were away.
ESPN referred to his play as “workmanlike” – I think that’s pretty accurate. I think Riley should start for the simple fact that Tedford is loathe to make spur-of-the-moment decisions (which is both good and bad) – - this means if Longshore really stinks it up out there against U$C, Tedford wouldn’t sub him out until late 3rd/ early 4th quarter….basically too late to make any real change. Arizona, anyone?
Uh
I think Riley should start for the simple fact that Tedford is loathe to make spur-of-the-moment decisions
I don’t think a concussion is something you should really get over in a week, unless everything is 100% clear. I think this is a doctor’s decision, not a coach’s.
But Tedford has a Doctorate. In football. From the school of hard knocks!
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I only have a master's
of rebounding. But I double majored in ass kicking and taking names in undergrad.
Dude, you have a PhD in rebounding! You have Post-Doc in rebounding. You are Professor Rebound!
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I just noticed at the Texas Tech blog (which is ecstatic after last night), they do a Open Thread roll call. And list the amount of posts. How interesting.
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if it increases participation
… then maybe you guys should do that too. It’s an okay idea.
What I like about their blog is that they list the vitals and stars for their commits on a sidebar on the front page… that’s cool. I find myself going to rivals all the time for that info… plus it gives props to our commits when they (and their parents) visit the fan blogs. I like this idea better.
I think the bloggers definitely sway towards the more anti-star ranking/rivals/scout hype machine.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 2, 2008 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
i do
but i couldn’t speak for the rest of my fellow marshawnthusiasts. i know that HydroTech and CBKWit follow recruiting a fair amount, so perhaps they would be interested in compiling/displaying such data.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Coaches Poll
is out and Cal comes in at #22 with Maryland at #21. They stick a knife in Texas Tech and only give them #3.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
I should have noticed that. But even if we beat U$C and run the table, sadly there’s no way we get to Pasadena.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
I so want that to happen and I soo want to go to Pasadena. But I just don’t see it happening. We’d get screwed again. PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
PAC-10 is not a lock on the Rose Bowl.
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2002 Miami v Nebraska. 2005 Texas Michigan. BCS series. Any of this ring a bell?
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Yes. In 2002 (for the 2001 season), wasn’t the National Championship game at the Rose Bowl under a previous BCS set up that is no longer relevant?
And in 2005 (for the 2004 season), wasn’t that because USC went to the National Championship game?
Under your scenario, where we win out, no other Pac10 team will be going to the National Championship game. Moreover, we aren’t under that previous BCS set up.
As such, I feel that your two precedents are not relevant to the discussion of the 2008 Pac10 race.
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The Pac-10 champion goes to the Rose Bowl if they’re not eligible for the BCS title game. I’m pretty sure it’s a rule.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
No PAC-10 will be eligble for the BCS title game this year.
We already have examples from 2002, 2005.
Dumbfuckistan hates the West Coast.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
But the Rose Bowl was slated as the title game those two years. That qualification no longer exists.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
But we also have to be BCS eligible, right? Top 16 in the BCS standings? If we win out, would we make the cut-off? Probably.
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I’m reasonably certain several Big East and slash or ACC teams have won their championship and gone to the BCS with a 22 ranking or some such thing.
Didn’t Pittsburg have like a 22 ranking when they went to a BCS bowl and we didn’t in 2004?
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correct
we just have to win the Pac-10. our BCS standing is irrelevant.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
We get the Rose Bowl in Pasadena with a $17M payday if we run the table. It pays to win. Otherwise looking at the conference tie-ins:
If we go 3-1, as PAC-10 #2, it’s the Holiday Bowl in SD on 11/30 against the Big 12 #2, which is looking like Texas Tech, Texas or one of the Oklahomas. This would be a tougher matchup than A+M was.
If we go 2-2, then it’s either the Las Vegas Bowl on 11/20 against the Mountain West champion: TCU, Utah, or BYU.
or the Sun Bowl in fucking El Paso, Texas on 11/31 against Big East/Notre Dame or Big 12, West Virginia or Pittsburgh.
I don’t even want to think of anything less.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
I believe that the Pac10 is commie. All money is split 10 ways. So, it doesnt matter where we go money-wise. I might be wron gon that.
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i believe you're correct
which is why Notre Dame is so reluctant to join a conference. every time they get a BCS bid they don’t deserve, they don’t have to share it with anyone.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
if we fall below the holiday bowl, my personal best-case scenarios would be:
fall to the Nut Bowl in SF. no travel (for me), crappy ACC opponent that we should roll, but will still have some sort of “name”.
falling completely to the Hawai’i Bowl. i don’t know/care who the opponent is. it’s hawai’i in december.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Yes
That’s why the Pac-10 is one of the so-called “BCS conferences”. The conference champ could theoretically be, say, 7-5 (0-4 in non-conference play), unranked, but still be guaranteed a spot in the Rose Bowl.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oops.
My statement above is based on how things used to be, and it appears a new set of rules kicks in this year.
Cal would indeed have the inside track on the Rose Bowl as Pac-10 champion, but that would no longer be a true guarantee. A wildcard from a non-BCS conference could hypothetically take the Bears’ spot if they were ranked higher than Cal in the final BCS standings.
I still don’t think we need to worry much about rankings. If Cal does indeed manage to win out, it’s hard to imagine the Bears won’t be going to the Rose Bowl. (That would an injustice FAR greater than 2004.) But who knows? Maybe in a couple of weeks, we will need to start worrying about the likes of Utah, Boise State, BYU, and TCU.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I can’t speak to those new rule changes. But the problems that many other conferences face is that a poor team can win them. You can have a crappy team from the Big12 NOrth beat a great team from the Big12 South (just a random example not anything about this year) and get into the BCS.
This would not be the case for a team from the Pac10. If we win out (which we pretty much need to happen to make the Rose Bowl), we’d be like 10-2 on the year. We would have defeated USC and several other ranked teams, including Oregon and MSU. We’d have no trouble being in a position to make the Rose Bowl, even if there might be some vague contingencies as you state.
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The Pac-10 champion gets an auto bid
Over all other at-large bids ahead of us in the BCS rankings. And the Rose Bowl will pick them because of the Big 10-Pac-10 tradition.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Double Oops.
I read the new rules more closely. While the six BCS conferences’ automatic bids, as originally defined, expired after 2007, they didn’t really disappear. Indeed, the site I link above specifically confirms that the Rose Bowl is contractually obligated to have the Pac-10 and Big-10 champs play each other, the only exception being if either of those conference champs qualify for the BCS championship game.
So, no, we do NOT have to worry about BCS rankings. If Cal wins the Pac-10, Cal goes to the Rose Bowl. Period. Of course, if two or more teams tie for the championship (a la 2006), then the Rose Bowl ticket goes to the team chosen by the following tie-breaker:
1. In a two-way tie, the head-to-head winner goes to the Rose Bowl
2. In a three-way tie, whichever team owns the best record against those tied teams, goes to the Rose Bowl. (That’s the short version. Scenario #2 can get rather complicated.)
What does this mean? Cal could potentially clinch a Rose Bowl with a Big Game win against Stanford, if the Bears had also defeated USC and Oregon State the preceding two weeks. Even if—heaven forbid—the Bears were to somehow lose to Washington at the end of the year, that would be (under this hypothetical scenario), just the Bears’ second conference loss, and Cal would own the head-to-head advantage against all the other potential 2-loss teams, except for possibly Arizona.
It’s obviously far too early to seriously speculate about a Cal Rose Bowl bid. But we’re “only” two tough road victories away from staring that almost-unthinkable prospect in the face.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
i'm not sure what you're seeing, pete
2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:
Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl
that seems to be the current rule.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Go to the bottom of the page I linked. The last section refers to “Conference Automatic Qualification in Future”. It is barely intelligible, but it seems to say (in combination with rule #2 at the top of the page), that the automatic BCS status of the six conferences is subject to change following 2007. Since I haven’t heard otherwise, I guess the BCS Six remain the BCS Six. Either way, the last paragraph makes it clear that the contractual bowl-conference commitments you quote above remain rock solid.
But if I’m reading things correctly, the Pac-10 might very well lose its BCS status if it keeps stinking it up in subsequent seasons.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 2, 2008 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
No way in hell
We have two of the largest media markets in the country in LA and Bay Area. BCS is all about $$$. No way they will drop the PacX. Image the amount of $$ lost on that
In other words, Go Bears!
ah, i see
those are pretty vague standards. as long as we have USC as a top 5 team, i really don’t think anything the other 9 teams do could bring the conference down below BCS status. also, i seem to remember such standards being, in the past, fairly generous. even the Big East, with conference champions such as #17 Pitt, didn’t come close to failing out of automatic qualifier status.
in short, nothing to worry about, folks.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
You guys are saying the same thing. The Pac-10 champ is under contract to the Rose Bowl unless they make the NCG. So if Cal wins out, we definitely go to the Rose Bowl.
We are definitely way ahead of ourselves, but good to know for future years probably…
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LOL
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 2, 2008 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Fair
Great game as it was, Texas Tech barely won. They barely survived Nebraska earlier, and Oklahoma WRECKED them. The rest of their wins haven’t been that great, and they have two wins against UMass and Eastern Washington. Alabama and Penn State have proven just a little bit more.
Cal is where they deserve to be. I hope this doesn’t mean they get kicked out again next week.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
If they beat the Oklahomas, then they deserve to be #1, hands down.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Colo St lost by 3 to No 17 BYU
42-45…that would have helpled the Bears!
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
Marshawn is first string
On being the only guy that could chase down the CB on a horrible Edwads interception
Is Marshawn injured. I thought I saw him rolling to the lockerroom? And Jackson is running a lot.
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He’s apparently sick. Might be nauseated from sprinting 90 yards down the field.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
ROdgers is leading the Packers to victory here.
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Why must it always be about fantasy points?
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
When do the torrents usually come out?
This is the first game I’ve wanted to re-watch since MSU
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FUCK THE NFL
They just switched from the FG kick of Tennessee-Green Bay to go to the start of the Raider game.
Again, FUCK THE NFL.
Not exactly...
They just switched from the FG kick of Tennessee-Green Bay to go to three minutes of commercials before the start of the Raiders game.
I understand having a rule to show the home teams in their markets… But when you cut off a game in OT to go to another game, GO TO THE OTHER GAME!!! Not 3 minutes of commercials, then go to the game, which still hadn’t started…
At least they didn’t go over to “Heidi”.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 3, 2008 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
CaliSeth is going to be hungover again
Aaron Rodgers lost, the Bills lost, and Brett Favre won. The triumvirate of football hell.
Craig Stevens/Dante Hughes won, though…
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
Now Go Away.
And Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
oops I meant Lavelle
Sheriff of the Welcome Team.
Welcome.
Now Go Away.
And Stop Arguing Nate vs. Kevin.
1 catch 4 yards. Hope that’s not the highlight of his year.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
I feel sick.
That game just ripped my heart right out. It was just as heart wrenching and dejecting, if not more so, than a Cal game. I feel sick, very sick. Why, God? Just, why? Why did you have to do this? Life is not fair. It’s just not fair at all. To make matters worse, Brett the jerk got the win over the Bills. Making matters even more worse – which I didn’t feel was possible at this point – Marshawn had 16 yards on 9 carries and a fumble. The only redeeming thing about today is the fact Aaron played relatively well considering the poor pass protection. The Packers defense really let the people of Green Bay down today. Most importantly, they let Aaron Rodgers down. Time to head to the dreaded Packer blogs to keep a vigilant eye on the Aaron bashers… )-;
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
You really think because Favre won and Rodgers lost that the Packers blogs will start bashing Aaron? I haven’t seen any of that.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
You’d be surprised. It might not be the blogs so much, but if you read GB newspapers some of the comments are pretty messed up. ESPN also is a place where they like to talk a lot of trash about him. At the end of GB articles where people post their thoughts, some of those guys are worthless too.
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
What? Stupid things are being said in the ESPN comment section? Unbelievable!
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
That ESPN board is hilarious
Quote:
Lets talk about what Favre did since we’ve all forgotten what it’s like to watch our team win football games.
- Favre controlled the clock in the 2nd half to keep his defense fresh
- Favre kept the Bills defense honest which allowed his running back to average nearly 6 yards per carry
- Favre led actual drives which resulted in points and didn’t have a single 3 and out since the 1st quarter
- Favre closed out the game with a 14 play 65 yard drive which took 9 MINUTES off the clock at the end of the 4th quarter, and ended with the Jets pushing the lead to 2 scores.
- Favre kept the crowd out of it by not rushing plays
Greatest QB of our lifetimes, folks. You’ll never see another like him.
&
- Back to back 2nd half turnovers to lose the game for the Packers resulting in a 10pt swing in the score.
- Can’t put a 2nd half drive together to control the clock and get our defense a rest
- Arguing with Philbin on the sidelines about the play calling
- Can’t convert short passes
- Can’t convert 3rd downs
- Can’t get rid of the ball and avoid sacks on critical drives
Get this POS the hell OUT OF GREEN BAY.
START MATT FLYNN RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
by BearsNecessity on Nov 2, 2008 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Packers fans are stupid idiots. I won't say hicks, but they're mentally challenged at times...
Packers fans make me sick. I am technically a Packers fan now, but they still make me sick. I am part of a vocal minority that protects Aaron from their irrational vitriol, but after today my job just gets tougher. A part of me wishes he hadn’t signed that contract extension, but I respect him for doing so to reciprocate the confidence management has shown in him.
What a seriously depressing day. When I went to bed this morning I pictured a wonderful day ahead. Little did I know things would end up like this. At least our beloved Bears won! I love my Bears so much, so so much…. So weird, after Riley got hurt I ashamedly thought we would lose. Nate, I apologize for giving you such a hard time. I am a jerk.
GO BEARS!
P.S. Nothing wrong with being a hick. I know many of them and they are great people. They just seem intractably set in their football ideologies. They need to give Aaron a fucking chance. Damn jerks…
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
Wow. I know winning is a longshot, but do people really perceive that USC is that flawless and we are that flawed? Yikes.
well, how about this?
USC has given up more than 10 points just once this year. they have 3 shutouts in conference play. oh, and they’ve already covered 2 spreads of more than 40 points this year.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
And they lost to Oregon State and struggled against Arizona two weeks ago. Furthermore, two of those shutouts were against teams from the Evergreen state. However, this game is at home for U$C and later in the season. I like our defense and our offense has certainly been improving.
I’d take the points.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
CAL will beat USC! On the flip side, who can give me the date when the Bears last beat USC in Pasadena? Anyone? I honestly have no idea, and have no interest in looking it up…
President Lincoln once said, "a house divided against itself cannot stand." So everyone get on board with Riley, lest we all fall!
2000. My sophmore year. It was amazing! I barely remember anything, all I know is that we had a great time! Go Bears!
Please disregard the above ramblings as those of a clearly delusional fan.
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
Wow, you’re younger than I thought, Twist. J/k! Thanks for giving me the date. I may be crazy, in fact I am, but I think we have a good shot at upsetting them…
"I look forward to a future in which our country will match its military strength with our moral restraint, its wealth with our wisdom, its power with our purpose."
John F. Kennedy
i don't know if we've ever beaten USC in Pasadena
we last won in the coliseum, as twist said, in 2000. we last won in pasadena in 1999.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
for the record, i think you're right
and i’d take the points too. i was mostly being argumentative.
as for oregon state, well, two of their 3 losses were @ Penn State and to Utah, both of whom are still undefeated and in the top 10. (the third loss was to stanford, who suddenly doesn’t look so awful). i’m not saying USC is perfect, but there’s a reason Sagarin’s Predictor has USC #1 by a large margin.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Why the hell isn't OSU ranked
The only bad loss was the opener against the furd, other than that lost to current #3 and #8 and beat current #5 then #1. They really can’t muster enough votes to get #25 but Oregon could last week? Freakin ridiculous.
I disagree. Though they have some close losses against good opponents (besides the Penn St blowout), they haven’t defeated anyone special besides USC. The only teams besides USC they’ve beaten are the bottom three in the Pac-10 and a mediocre Hawaii. Oregon St isn’t far from being ranked, though. If they beat UCLA on the road this weekend, they’ll be on the verge of being ranked. But if they manage to beat Cal in two weeks, they’ll deserve a top-25 ranking.
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