Did Cal Run Up The Score On UCLA?
I've always seen Jeff Tedford as a classy guy. A guy with an insatiable desire to win, but the discipline to win "the right way". A guy who, with Cal in the running for a Rose Bowl berth in 2004, though the Bears had their final game at Southern Miss well in hand but needed style points to win over voters, decided to take a knee at the end of the game rather than try and score a meaningless touchdown. A guy who publicly chewed out his own players for scoring a garbage-time touchdown in a blowout over Texas A&M in the 2006 Holiday Bowl. Jeff Tedford has never struck me as the sort of coach who would try and run up the score on anybody, which is why the ending of Saturday's 41-20 win over UCLA struck me as rather odd.
The game had been close for most of the afternoon, but once Mike Mohamed returned another Kevin Craft interception for a touchdown to put the Bears up 34-13 with nine and a half minutes left, I was finally able to relax a little. Cal got the ball back after forcing a Bruin 3-and-out, and I honestly expected Cal to start up the 'run up the middle 3 times and punt' offense. As a football fan, I hate watching that offense, but I do understand it's purpose: shorten the game as much as possible while taking as few risks as you can. The Bears should have been able to grind the game out on the ground, and if they could kill 5 or 6 minutes off the clock with a long drive, the game would have been essentially over.
End-of-blowout situations can be tricky, especially when you get down in the red zone. You want to ease up on the team that's down, but you don't want to take it so easy that a) the team gets back in the game, or b) it looks like you're taking a pity dive. Also, you can take your best players out, but you can't tell the players who do play to do anything but try their hardest. If we're running it up the guy and you can't stop up, well, that's not our fault, is it? Still, you can certainly dial down the aggressiveness of the play-calling, and I, for one, was surprised to see Tedford and Cignetti not do that.
On their next possession, Cal probably surprised a lot of people by coming out running basically their regular offense. Yes, they ran first, at least until getting into 2nd- or 3rd-and-long situations, but these weren't all runs up the middle. Best's first two carries, in fact, were outside runs that both went out-of-bounds. What happened to trying to kill the clock? And on 3rd-and-9 on UCLA's 45 yard line, the Bears didn't just try and pick up the first down to maintain possession; no, they went for it all, and would have gotten a touchdown had Kevin Riley been able to connect with Jeremy Ross deep down the right side.
Then, after forcing another UCLA 3-and-out, I really thought the Bears would get conservative. And indeed, the Bears' starting tailback, Jahvid Best, never saw the field again, and his backup, Shane Vereen, got 3 straight carries up the middle. However, instead if simply eating the clock, one of those runs popped for 56 yards to put the Bears down inside the 10 and in position to score again. With 2 minutes left in the game, there's no reason not to keep running the ball, and if you don't score, no one will blame you for kicking a field goal or whatever. However, for whatever reason, the Bears decided to start passing again, and Kevin Riley found Cameron Morrah in the end zone for a touchdown.
I don't know about you, but passing for a touchdown while up three touchdowns with fewer than two minutes to play sure feels like running up the score to me.
Why is our starting quarterback throwing passes late in the 4th quarter when the Bears are up by 3 TDs? - Image via TrisWeb
Of course, to everyone who thought the game was over and there was no reason to score, the Bruins provided a swift counterargument, returning the ensuing kickoff 82 yards to the Cal 9 yard line, scoring two plays later to get the touchdown back, taking just 20 seconds off the clock. Had the Bruins recovered their subsequent onside kick, they might have had a shot at making a game of it. OK, probably not, but still, letting up on a team you think is beaten can occasionally be a costly mistake.
As a fan in the stands, the Bears' final touchdown felt a bit like running up the score, but my gut says Jeff Tedford wouldn't do that. So was something else going on there? Two possibilities come to mind:
1) Tedford wasn't convinced that the game was out of reach, and he was trying to ice the game once and for all. After all, though he no longer ran Best out there on that final scoring drive, many of the Bears' starters were still in the game, including QB Kevin Riley and the man who caught the touchdown, Cameron Morrah.
This reasoning, however, feels weak to me. Perhaps an argument could have been made for the deep bomb to Ross on the previous drive, with about 5 minutes left to play, but up 3 TDs with under 2 to go? A couple of runs up the middle should have been sufficient. Even if you run three times and don't score at all, you've taken time off the clock and pinned the Bruins inside their own 10.
2) Tedford was still trying to get work in for his offense. This actually feels like the right answer for me. Why were the starters still in the game with the outcome essentially decided? Perhaps because those starters still needed plenty of work.
Remember, at this point in the game, though the Bears had scored 34 points, 14 of those were off interceptions returned for touchdowns. Entering the final scoring drive, Kevin Riley was 10 for 21 passing for 143 yards and a touchdown, with more than a third of those yards coming on the flea-flicker to Nyan Boateng; those are the kind of numbers that 'pedestrian' and 'mediocre' were invented for. The Bears had punted 7 times already, and on 4 of those drives, the offense actually lost yardage. Moreover, this drive was only the second of the game in which the Bears ran an offensive play inside the red zone; on their opening possession of the game, the Bears ran 6 plays inside the 20, 3 of them inside the 10, and came away with a disappointing field goal. Yes, the game was a blowout at this point, but it was pretty clear that the Bears' offense still needed the work, and to be fair, I don't think you could say that UCLA's defense didn't need the reps as well.
You're looking at a third of Kevin Riley's passing yards versus UCLA. - Image via TrisWeb
Of course, I'm just speculating here; I don't get the kind of press access where I could ask Tedford why the Bears were still trying to score so late in the game. However, if I'm correct and Cal was simply taking the opportunity to continue to work on their offense, that's a decision I can wholeheartedly agree with. Strange as it sounds, with the season more than half over in a game in which the Bears dropped 41 points on the Bruins, Cal's offense can still use all the work it can get, and sending in the scrubs would have been to waste a perfectly good practice opportunity against live, Pac-10 competition.
Although I was puzzled at the time, I'm now pretty convinced that the Bears had no intention of trying to embarass the Bruins. If UCLA wants to use this excuse as extra motivation for next year, I won't hold it against them; a little extra motivation, justified or not, is never a bad thing. But I hope no one points to this game when trying to argue that Tedford is a "no class loser"; what would you have done, lain down and given up? Now *that* would have been insulting.
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I’ll admit that this post is just so I can post something using CRookN.
by CaliforniaBone on Oct 29, 2008 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Three words: "Pete Alamar Special"
That had to be in JT’s head: “Pete is so special he could fuck this up for me in a matter of minutes. I’m not going to take anything for granted.”
But seriously, I thought the pass to Morrah was more about getting real work in for an obviously struggling offense against a decent defense. If you are a football fan you would know that Cal’s offense has been terribly inconsistent and would understand that within the game the offense was having problems. Taking that knowledge into account, I don’t think you can conclude JT was running up the score. If he was passing bombs on every down out of a shotgun formation (a la Spurrier), that would be a different case. But because Fucla fans are generally so ignorant of what’s going on with other teams, they would probably not realize what was going on.
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by oaktownmario on Oct 29, 2008 4:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
BitterNation
those guys are waaaay too sensitvie, while trying to protect their Wooden, er, women’s water polo, wait, athletic legacy.
does anyone feel like "sore loser" = "running up the score accusers"
Opinions matter in college football and somehow the Bears are sniffing the rankings yet again.
I’m actually ok with teams “running their offense.”
The worst thing about football, in my opinion, is the clock. I know they need it, but I hate how the game is played towards the end when it looks like one team is going to win. It would almost be nice if they only had access to the play clock and not the game clock with the exception of a 2 minute warning. Isn’t soccer like that? Especially when they go past the 80-min due to penalties/injuries? I just want football, man!
Riley’s been sharing snaps all week and was benched for a few games. With the meat of the schedule coming up we need some continuity on offense.
Did anyone call U$C-WSU running up the score?
Two-thirds of the earth is covered by water, the other third is covered by Kotsay...in his prime...like 3 years ago.
NO. This isn’t UC Davis we’re playing here. A 21 point lead isn’t insurmountable, even with 2 minutes left. It’s been done before.
If you want to prevent anyone from running up the score, stop us.
Dude, thats not what you said at the game. You were RAILING against Tedford. RAILING
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by BearsNecessity on Oct 29, 2008 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If you've been a Cal fan as long as I...
… you know this was more about preservation than running up the score. Funny that I had the exact same reaction as ragnarok and turned to my husband at about that same 9 1/2 minute mark and told him that for the first time in a Cal game I actually felt almost confident that Cal would win! (I should now apologize for that transgression however, because I know it could come back to bite us in some future game.)
These are the sentiments that nobody else in the league understands, including UCLA which has had so many years of success.
I always love it that losing teams get so sensitive
when they perceive that their opponents are actually trying to score points on them. I mean, isn’t it every bit as insulting to watch the other team’s 3rd string taking snaps against you? If it’s a 50-point differential, then yeah, maybe the trick plays are a bit much, but a 3TD lead? Come on, this is football, not the Special Olympics.
by bearsglory on Oct 29, 2008 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was glad to see us still running our first team offense because our offense definitely needs improvement. With our three toughest and most pivotal games of the year coming up in the next three weeks, we needed every minute of in-game experience to improve our offense. I can understand that someone unfamiliar with Cal may think we ran up the score. But anyone who is familiar with Cal’s mediocre offense this year (this includes UCLA fans who probably were aware of our offensive woes, especially since we had a good 45 minutes of mediocrity on offense) should understand that our offense could use improvement and that we may need to continue to use our first team offense in garbage time.
What I don’t understand is why Neuheisel called consecutive timeouts on Cal’s last possession. After standing in the heat for five and a half hours, I wasn’t thrilled to stand around and wait on Neuheisel’s shenanigans. It was hot and I wanted the game to be finished so I could go get something to drink (thanks again, security who would not allow me to bring in a sealed drink). The game itself had gone on for nearly four hours. After those timeouts, I was actually hoping we would score again on UCLA (as did many others who started chanting “go for it”). If we did score again, I may consider it running up the score (though somewhat justified). In summary, another touchdown would have been running up the score, but our offense has struggled and we needed all the in-game experience we could get.
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by Berkelium97 on Oct 29, 2008 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I agree with everything you just said
… and actually said that in essence to Ragnarok at the game.
rec’d.
Hope is dangerous, but Glory is addictive.
Long ago made my peace with this sort of thing...
I’m a Cal fan by marriage and I don’t care if he was running up the score, and I’ll tell you why:
1) You can go to jail for point-shaving, and nobody needs that.
2) Now that the BCS is composed of 2/3 human polls – with half that provided by coaches and the other half by assorted dilettantes – the compressive effect the computer polls applied to runaway wins is gone. As a result, the retired TV guy or quality-control coach who actually fills out the ballot for Harris and USA Today respectively? He’s going to respond a lot more to 41-20 than he would have to 27-20 or even 34-20.
It’s not good, it’s not right, and it’s not fair, but for my money, any argument about sportsmanship begins and ends with “Southern Mississippi”.
Would it be unheard of for a coach to 'get work in' for his offense in preparation for the upcoming game?
Meaning, maybe Tedford was/is as worried as the rest of us are about the upcoming Oregon game and our lack of Offensive dominance? Hence, get those guys as much real game time as possible?
by SonofCalifornia on Oct 29, 2008 6:48 PM PDT reply actions
The answer is no.
Were we supposed to stop playing just because it was 34-13 with 2 minutes left? When our offense was struggling all day and hasn’t clicked in weeks? The fans of the southern branch campus don’t seriously think this was running up the score, do they? If they do, they really have to start worrying more about their team and less about ours.
Go Bears!
Cal leading by 21 is like most teams leading by a field goal. No, Cal did not run up the score. Jeff Tedford was merely ensuring that the game would be won.
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by HydroTech on Oct 29, 2008 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree… our offense overall has been extremely inconsistent for the entire season. My feeling was that we were trying to get some positive mo’ going into next week.
But I will admit that if I were a Bruin fan who hadn’t been following Cal, I’d probably would have assumed that Cal was running up the score.
On a related note...
I’ve noticed on blogs, message boards, and the internet in general, a pattern amonst fans of a team that has lost a game : complaining about the lack of ‘class’ of the team and fans that beat you. It will go along the lines of “I was at the game and {Team Name} fans are all a bunch of no-class thugs,” or “Their players talk trash all game long and have no respect,” etc. etc.
I think it’s some sort of defense mechanism. We may have lost (which is all we really care about), but at least we can feel better by making a misguided attempt to claim the moral high ground over the team that kicked our butts. It’s this observation that makes me think very carefully about commenting about the behavior of any particular fan group, because I’ve been to a bunch of games and seen obnoxious behavior from EVERYBODY.
I’ve been to a bunch of games and seen obnoxious behavior from EVERYBODY.
This is entirely too true. Although the the fans at Rutgers in 2001 had pretty much no fight left in ‘em. I’ll bet they’re obnoxious as hell now, though.
FWIW, I didn’t write this post in response to any Bruin fan whining that may or may not have occurred. I didn’t really read any Bruin message boards or whatever after the game, so I neither know nor really care what they think. The bulk of this piece is basically an argument I had with myself (and TwistNHook) in the stands late in the 4th quarter, when the game was still not final. I simply thought it was an interesting situation that was worth exploring.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
To be fair, it was mostly you, BearsNecessity, and CBKWit. I was just standing there going ’If Marshawn was here this" and “If Marshawn was here that.”
I offered little to the conversation.
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Oh yeah, I added a lot to the conversation, with my grunts and nods.
by BearsNecessity on Oct 29, 2008 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I was there too!
but was trying not to faint from the heat, so no good arguments from me.
Hope is dangerous, but Glory is addictive.
I should clarify as well
I’m not trying to call out UCLA fans. Outside of a few comments in the heat of the moment there hasn’t been any grumblings I’ve seen.
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Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
What I want, you’ve got
But it might be hard to handle
Like the flame that burns the candle
The candle feeds the flame yeah yeah
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My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
With 1:00 seconds remaining, my 1-AA school was leading our rival (and current #1 team in 1-AA). Our rival scored a rushing touchdown on the next play, stopped us for a three and out, and with 1 second left returned the punt for a game winning touchdown. The point is, crazy things happen in college football.
Some high school football clips to enjoy:
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http://www.kegz.net/archives/2006/1/06/ridiculous_high_school_football_comeback.html
(If you start the second one watch it the entire way through)
Running up the score is leaving your starters in to score in the second half against Washington St or North Texas. Scoring against the Bruins was making sure the game doesn’t turn into one of those clips, or The Play. I’m also glad our offense got the extra reps, they definitely need it.
Sigh
This was not running up the score, but it have no doubt it was some sort of statement to Ucla. Particularly after Neu used thos three time outs. I mean, it seems to me that the Cal coaching staff may have been thinking something along, “Well, if he wants to keep playing, let’s keep playing!”
Also, given the erratic nature of our offense, using this situation as a way to keep working and imporiving makes a lot of sense.
In the end that last touchdown was not needed, and maybe a few babybruins got their feelings hurt. But sometimes football scores are lopsided and fans have to just accept that every now and then their team will get an ass-kicking. Were any Cal fans crying like 7-year old girls with skinned knees when Zona plopped that 4th TD on us in the 3rd quarter?
The whole running up the score thing is much ado about nothing. It’s a way for a pack of spoiled, petulant, whingy brats to cry when something happens to them, but I don’t ever hear them saying anything if they are on the other side of a huge win – in any sport.
Go Bears!
No...
have no doubt it was some sort of statement to Ucla. Particularly after Neu used thos three time outs. I mean, it seems to me that the Cal coaching staff may have been thinking something along, "Well, if he wants to keep playing, let’s keep playing!"
The timeouts were after the last TD. But your retaliation theory is probably accurate, if reversed.
by SuperBruinMan on Oct 30, 2008 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
a 21 point win when only leading by 4 going into the 4th q
is not running up the score. and for Cal, we’ve pissed away 14 pts in less than two mins more than once.
had we pulled all the stops and gone for a td in the last two mins, when we had the ball….that would be running up the score.
I loved seeing Riley ask for the Victory formation play on the last drive. after every play he looked to the sidelines and made a great big V with his arms…..‘can we run the victory play, yet?’
Go Bears Go
Is that the man, the mystery, the legend?
If slash when Bak Bak makes it to Cal, its going to be a golden era of CGB.
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yeah, that is the man, the legend, the Bak Bak. i really know nothing about him but who cares if he can play, with a name like that he’s already my favorite player on the team.
I left my heart at the Durant Food Court
by dballisloose on Oct 30, 2008 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He might just already be my favorite player ever.
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That’s not really saying much, given you and I have relatively short histories as far as Cal athletics goes.
I left my heart at the Durant Food Court
by dballisloose on Oct 30, 2008 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, Ive been following Cal since 1999. Thats gotta count for somehting.
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….since 1996…..counts for a few more years of mediocrity than you’re aware of
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by dballisloose on Oct 31, 2008 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
doin the happy dance

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

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